A mess in the desert

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Glendale City Council should have taken the $50 million Ballsy was offering...

City can't meet NHL's Coyotes demands - The Globe and Mail

 

[BostonAJ]

From The Winnipeg Free Press...

Glendale city council is to vote Tuesday night on a motion to give its city manager the power to assure the NHL it will meet the league's conditions. It is believed the NHL is demanding an assurance that any Coyotes' losses will be covered if the league operates the team for one more season.

"That's the next step. If that fails or if our negotiations fall through, I think the team will move and there's a handful of cities that will be in the running. In my opinion, Winnipeg is at the top of that list," said Jones. "If the city satisfies the NHL's conditions on Tuesday, the team will stay in Glendale for at least another year."

It looks like closure may be on the horizon. I wasn't a fan of the Yotes moving to Hamilton (I still think that could hose the Sabres), but I'm really rooting for the team to move back to its rightful home.

Now if we can just get the Avs back in Quebec and the Canes back in Hartford, I'll be happy.

 

[The Q stache]

It looks like closure may be on the horizon. I wasn't a fan of the Yotes moving to Hamilton (I still think that could hose the Sabres), but I'm really rooting for the team to move back to its rightful home.

Now if we can just get the Avs back in Quebec and the Canes back in Hartford, I'll be happy.

I'm fine with the avs in Colorado that seems like a good fit

 

[DerringerEagle]

This farce has gone on long enough quite frankly. That market is a dead end and needs to be taken out of the league and back to where it never should have left.

 

[smo5039]

what's the arena situation like up in winnipeg?

 

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what's the arena situation like up in winnipeg?

Beautiful arena, just a little small (currently seats just over 15,000 people). Apparently, they might be able to expand it to 16,000. Do they have the corporate support to make it viable I think is the big question.

 

[Predsfan22]

Is that a misprint? Glendale only has 250K population? Didnt they leave Winnipeg because its half a milllion population wasnt enough?

 

[puckhead]

Is that a misprint? Glendale only has 250K population? Didnt they leave Winnipeg because its half a milllion population wasnt enough?

Glendale = 250k; Phoenix = 1.5m
hang on... how come a Canadian is telling you this stuff?

 

[davnlaguna]

.....
Now if we can just get the Avs back in Quebec and the Canes back in Hartford, I'll be happy.

And the Flames back to Alanta and the Devils back in Kansas City

 

[puckhead]

And the Flames back to Alanta and the Devils back in Kansas City

I'm still waiting for the Cleveland Barons to come back.
Randy Holt was awesome.

 

[DerringerEagle]

Ice Edge backing away from Coyotes unless given exclusivity

Get that picture of the Queen dusted off

 

[DerringerEagle]

And the Flames back to Alanta and the Devils back in Kansas City

Devils used to be the Colorado Rockies.

 

[scottflyers88]

well colorado already has a team. i am all for the nhl getting teams to the best places although you can not move them everytime the fans do not show up. however thereare some markets they should be taken out of.

phoneix

florida

atlanta

besides those teams, i think the nhl has been alright.

 

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“Talks have broken off,” Ice Edge chief operating office Daryl Jones told the Free Press late Monday night.

“We were adamant about needing exclusivity in these negotiations and they haven’t provided it. I’m not totally surprised. We’ve been dealing with this for a while. We thought we had agreed to certain things and expected them in writing. That didn’t materialize.”

I probably shouldn't be enjoying this as much as I am, but Bettman turned this into a giant clusterfuck and it's all blowing up in his face.

 

[Destroydacre]

“Talks have broken off,” Ice Edge chief operating office Daryl Jones told the Free Press late Monday night.

“We were adamant about needing exclusivity in these negotiations and they haven’t provided it. I’m not totally surprised. We’ve been dealing with this for a while. We thought we had agreed to certain things and expected them in writing. That didn’t materialize.”

I probably shouldn't be enjoying this as much as I am, but Bettman turned this into a giant clusterfuck and it's all blowing up in his face.

I'm enjoying it too. The owners also voted Balsillie down and in the end it looks like it's going to cost them quite a bit of money. They couldda had this settled over a year ago.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

I'm enjoying it too. The owners also voted Balsillie down and in the end it looks like it's going to cost them quite a bit of money. They couldda had this settled over a year ago.

+1

 

[davnlaguna]

NHL schedule includes Winnipeg

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The NHL schedule makers have created an itinerary for the 2010-11 season that includes a team based out of Winnipeg.

The schedule is a contingency plan as the future of the Phoenix Coyotes remains undecided, according to numerous media sources, including CBC Sports national reporter Teddy Katz.

Glendale city council members will vote Tuesday evening on whether to financially backstop the Coyotes.

"And I'm supposed to vote to give the NHL an unlimited amount of money? If that isn't tough, I don't know what is," Lieberman said, adding that he intends to oppose the motion.However, he thinks a majority on council will vote to fund the team for another year. Many councillors are worried about losing the $180-million investment the city made in the arena to attract the team to Glendale.

If any public money is put on the table for the Coyotes, the Goldwater Institute will file a lawsuit, Sitran said

 

[davnlaguna]

Devils used to be the Colorado Rockies.

True but first they were the Kansas City Scouts

 

[elocomotive]

Now if we can just get the Avs back in Quebec and the Canes back in Hartford, I'll be happy.

Did somebody say Hartford...

 

[Ties5o11]

I dont like the move to Winnipeg. If Phoenix is a financial disaster... fine. But I think it would harm growth of the game. Living in LA I know a number of people from Arizona, and a good number of them were getting into the Yotes when they were playing the Red Wings. With the new arena and a few years of a decent team, I think Arizona has the potential to support the Yotes.

If they have to be moved, then I would like to see them go to an untapped proven sports market; Kansas City, Seattle, Portland, Houston, Cleveland... I understand there are arena issues with some of those cities, but feel it would be better for the growth of the game.

Canada has a population of 30 million people. They have 6 teams. Thats one team for every 5 million people. They have enough teams. Keep the teams down South... look at Dallas, Tampa, San Jose, LA, St Louis... these are sucsessful "non-traditional" markets that have turned into successes for the NHL.

Lastly, I wish the NHL would move the Islanders. The NY metropolitan area has 3 teams, yet two of them get terrible attendance. Top that off with a team with no identity in the last two decades and a terrible, small arena, and I think they should be moved. Die hard fans on the Island can drive down to MSG or NJ to watch games. I know its not the same, but I think it would be worth giving fans in other major markets a team.