A Great Read: "Broncos will miss the playoffs"

[iknowftbll]

I found this on one Fansided. I think the writer is one of the Arrowhead Addict guys. I LOVE this kind of stuff! Enjoy!

The Denver Broncos will regress, miss playoffs in 2015

 

[cdumler7]

You are right in he is one of the writers for Arrowhead Addict. Funny for him to be the one writing an article about the Broncos. No bias in that of course. The media and fans outside of Denver have been predicting their doom for years. The whole "Manning is one hit away from ending his career" has been said every single season yet here he is 3 years later still regarded as one of the best in the business.

Also his thoughts are very flawed. People have been saying for years that a Kubiak system requires a Mobile QB. Who in their right mind thinks that Schaub or Flacco are considered mobile QB's? Now yes they have better legs than that of Manning but if you listen to Flacco talk last year he said that they did the naked bootleg play maybe 8 times all season. It wasn't a huge part of the game. Really the biggest play Manning will need to have some decent legs on is the stretch run play. That requires about 3 steps to the side. Manning is one that made that play famous while in Indy. Just because we haven't done it with the Broncos as much doesn't mean he can't still do it.

Throw in the writer of that article just needs to read this one of the differences between the Broncos in 2012 and 2014 to that of Houston in 2012 and Baltimore in 2014 to see that the offenses are actually pretty similar. The biggest differences are more the formations ran than the actual plays ran. The other part is Manning being under Center more. Beyond that most everything is very similar.

Will the Broncos' Passing Stats Go in the Tank Under Gary Kubiak? | Bleacher Report

This is by far one of my favorite articles of the entire off season. Anyway I'm glad to see this team finally become a bit of an underdog again. I think the players, coaches, and us as fans felt the pressure of the world that every time this team lost everybody came saying this team was overhyped. I think for this team to finally have the questions stop of "Is this a Super Bowl or bust season?" will be great for them. I hate that question as what team goes in thinking there is no chance for them to compete for the Super Bowl?

 

[Broncosr0k]

Complete hate piece. I can see us stumbling in certain areas but nothing like he or some commentors predict. One guy said we should be happy going 8-8. That amused me.

 

[iknowftbll]

It's a pretty weak analysis and consistent with much of the other predictions for this team in 2015. But this one is better (as in more fun to read, not better as in quality) because it's a Chiefs fan writing on the Broncos from the "standpoint of objectivity." The Broncos have clearly traumatized the Chiefs and their fans. Even in our lean years we've either swept or split with them. Can anyone remember without the help of google when was the last time the Chiefs swept the Broncos? (I believe it was 2000.) It's easy to see why they're so interested in the Broncos. I consider write ups like this to be a compliment. And the fan comments that follow are pure gold!

 

[cdumler7]

It's a pretty weak analysis and consistent with much of the other predictions for this team in 2015. But this one is better (as in more fun to read, not better as in quality) because it's a Chiefs fan writing on the Broncos from the "standpoint of objectivity." The Broncos have clearly traumatized the Chiefs and their fans. Even in our lean years we've either swept or split with them. Can anyone remember without the help of google when was the last time the Chiefs swept the Broncos? (I believe it was 2000.) It's easy to see why they're so interested in the Broncos. I consider write ups like this to be a compliment. And the fan comments that follow are pure gold!

Hmmm I'm trying to remember. I know in our really bad year in 2010 one of our wins was still against the Chiefs as that was the famous Haley chewing out McDaniels moment after the game where we crushed them. My guess is it happened in one of the 1990's seasons. The Chiefs in that 95-97 area were pretty darn dominant so my guess is one of those years. But yes it really has been a long time and right now with Manning he is even more the Chief killer as not sure they have ever beat Manning. Oh never mind just looked it up and they have beat him once out of 12 tries.

 

[Broncos6482]

It's a pretty weak analysis and consistent with much of the other predictions for this team in 2015. But this one is better (as in more fun to read, not better as in quality) because it's a Chiefs fan writing on the Broncos from the "standpoint of objectivity." The Broncos have clearly traumatized the Chiefs and their fans. Even in our lean years we've either swept or split with them. Can anyone remember without the help of google when was the last time the Chiefs swept the Broncos? (I believe it was 2000.) It's easy to see why they're so interested in the Broncos. I consider write ups like this to be a compliment. And the fan comments that follow are pure gold!

That sounded about right to me, so I looked it up: it was indeed 2000. They beat us in Denver 23-22 (coincidentally I was at that game) and then in KC 20-7. Since then we've swept them 5 times (2002, 2007, 2012-14).

By the way, if we sweep them again this season, it will tie us with them in the all time head to head record. They currently lead that 56-54 (that includes one playoff game).

 

[iknowftbll]

That sounded about right to me, so I looked it up: it was indeed 2000. They beat us in Denver 23-22 (coincidentally I was at that game) and then in KC 20-7. Since then we've swept them 5 times (2002, 2007, 2012-14).

By the way, if we sweep them again this season, it will tie us with them in the all time head to head record. They currently lead that 56-54 (that includes one playoff game).

Haha, no wonder they hate us so bad out in KC!

 

[Broncos6482]

Haha, no wonder they hate us so bad out in KC!

Oh, you have no idea. They really, really hate us. Especially Elway. You should hear some of the awful things they say about him. Actually, you probably shouldn't, it's not really fit for polite company.

 

[randymon]

Actually KC and Denver are setting up to be a good contest of my running game and D against yours this yr. In past, Smith and co. would never be able to score enough through the air to keep up with Manning and his arsenal. Could very well be a slugfest this season with what I perceive to be a run first /aggressive D mentality in Denver. This could actually bold well for KC in keeping games much closer. Denver still gets the edge though in pass game when it comes to big plays through the air. I could see both gms being decided by 10 pts or less. Unless of course Denver knows this and goes to Manning and shotgun and says see if you can score more Alex!

 

[WalkerBoh]

Actually KC and Denver are setting up to be a good contest of my running game and D against yours this yr. In past, Smith and co. would never be able to score enough through the air to keep up with Manning and his arsenal. Could very well be a slugfest this season with what I perceive to be a run first /aggressive D mentality in Denver. This could actually bold well for KC in keeping games much closer. Denver still gets the edge though in pass game when it comes to big plays through the air. I could see both gms being decided by 10 pts or less. Unless of course Denver knows this and goes to Manning and shotgun and says see if you can score more Alex!

It looks like Kubiak wants a chameleon offense: able to adjust to the opponent's weaknesses regardless. I imagine if Kubiak and Manning feel they can best attack KC through the air, they will still do so, with the run game as an option to keep them honest. It'd be really cool to have the type of offense where the opponent is forced to pick between poisons.

 

[cdumler7]

It looks like Kubiak wants a chameleon offense: able to adjust to the opponent's weaknesses regardless. I imagine if Kubiak and Manning feel they can best attack KC through the air, they will still do so, with the run game as an option to keep them honest. It'd be really cool to have the type of offense where the opponent is forced to pick between poisons.

This is essentially what has made the Patriots so deadly for so long. They know the weaknesses of the other team and attack those weaknesses. For us it has been covering TE's so they really love to work the middle of the field against the Broncos. Against the Colts they know the rush defense up the middle is terrible so they just keep pounding it down their throats until they can prove they can stop it. This is what made our Super Bowl teams so great back in the late 90's is we had the run game that could destroy teams but if they geared up too much to stop the run game we still had a HOF quarterback and a couple of great receivers, and a HOF TE that could show up as well. Honestly I do think that Elway has been trying his hardest to build the team this way. Unfortunately we had a HC and OC that bowed down to Manning and pretty much just let him run the show. Now I love Manning but he needs a HC that can tell him the importance of a run game. This is what I love about Kubiak so far is even if Manning doesn't like something like sitting out every 3 practices for a day to give the young guys some reps he still does it because it is what is best for the team. I think we will see this show up in the offense as well that even though Manning wants to throw it 70% of the time Kubiak will make sure to keep the offense balanced and the run game an actual priority.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Denver is still the best of the AFC West.

 

[iknowftbll]

Oh, you have no idea. They really, really hate us. Especially Elway. You should hear some of the awful things they say about him. Actually, you probably shouldn't, it's not really fit for polite company.

That is one of the biggest reasons I love reading AA and Arrowhead pride so much. I naturally enjoy reading sites like that for all the AFC West teams, but the audience that reads and comments on the Chiefs sites is by far the most adamantly Broncos-hating I've seen out any of our rivals. I suspect it is because the Chiefs have been a solid team but still playing second fiddle to the Broncos the past two years.

Actually KC and Denver are setting up to be a good contest of my running game and D against yours this yr. In past, Smith and co. would never be able to score enough through the air to keep up with Manning and his arsenal. Could very well be a slugfest this season with what I perceive to be a run first /aggressive D mentality in Denver. This could actually bold well for KC in keeping games much closer. Denver still gets the edge though in pass game when it comes to big plays through the air. I could see both gms being decided by 10 pts or less. Unless of course Denver knows this and goes to Manning and shotgun and says see if you can score more Alex!

It may, but it may not. One of the most dominant games we saw last year was the Broncos win over the Chiefs in Kansas City. While the final score of 29-16 may not look like a dominant win, anyone who watched the game knew that the Broncos bent the Chiefs over a barrel. What makes that game unique is that the Broncos gashed the Chiefs for 214 yards on the ground, including 168 by Anderson. I realize the Chiefs have some solid run defenders back from injury this year, but the Broncos have a new HC who has a long history of gashing teams on the ground. Also, the Broncos defenses of 2013 and 2014 didn't seem to have too much trouble keeping the lid on that Chiefs offense. I don't expect the Chiefs offense to be significantly better this year than it was last year, and I do expect the Broncos defense to be more aggressive and better at shutting down offenses, forcing 3 and outs, creating pressure and turnovers.

While I did give the Chiefs the benefit of the doubt in my game-by-game predictions (and I usually do) I would not be at all surprised to see the Broncos sweep them again.

It looks like Kubiak wants a chameleon offense: able to adjust to the opponent's weaknesses regardless. I imagine if Kubiak and Manning feel they can best attack KC through the air, they will still do so, with the run game as an option to keep them honest. It'd be really cool to have the type of offense where the opponent is forced to pick between poisons.

I think that's a good thing, too. A balanced offense is the baseline, but can surge into a pass heavy or run heavy offense depending on the opponent or any given look they give us.

 

[iknowftbll]

A blast from the pre-season past. Matt V is a total dumbass who mostly writes at Arrowhead Addict. This is a fun read to get you through that long stretch of the bye week!

 

[wingsauce7]

FUKC

 

[iknowftbll]

I think now that we've clinched a playoff spot and need a win in a very winnable game to lock up not only the AFC West but a 1st round bye, it may be worth the time to revisit this article and maybe drop the dumbass who wrote it a nice little note reminding him he's a dumbass.

 

[cdumler7]

Don't worry iknowftbll I just tweeted him to remind him that he wrote that garbage. Funny thing is after the team started 1-5 he wrote something about how he was just done with this season and hated football. Now again he is writing about how the Chiefs are Super Bowl bound. He just is emotionally immature and very surprised that they let somebody like that write for such a big publication.

 

[iknowftbll]

^ I nearly joined MHR today just to reply to a Chiefs fan who commented. He said he read the game thread from last night's game and was chiding Broncos fans for their comments in the early goings of the game. Considering how the Chiefs fans were actually pissed when they won their second game because they had already written of the season and began looking forward to the draft, I thought that was especially amusing. And you're right: Matt V was one of the worst offenders. He's not a well researched writer at all and after 15 games his comments about the Broncos chances on defense are...well...just hilarious.

 

[cdumler7]

^ I nearly joined MHR today just to reply to a Chiefs fan who commented. He said he read the game thread from last night's game and was chiding Broncos fans for their comments in the early goings of the game. Considering how the Chiefs fans were actually pissed when they won their second game because they had already written of the season and began looking forward to the draft, I thought that was especially amusing. And you're right: Matt V was one of the worst offenders. He's not a well researched writer at all and after 15 games his comments about the Broncos chances on defense are...well...just hilarious.

Yeah he writes purely on emotion. He cherry picks stats to make his team look incredible. I'm sure he has some Super Bowl articles in the works already and how they are starting a dynasty at some point this off season. I guess after so many years of being so terrible even the smallest glimpse of hope is something you run with.

He actually tweeted out a video earlier about how he was so mad that the Chiefs are being so disrespected around the NFL and that they are the hottest team in the league. I told him the problem is the Chiefs haven't really played anybody during this 9 game stretch. They beat a Steelers team with Landry Jones starting and a Broncos team when Manning probably played his worst game in the NFL. Honestly probably the highest quality win they have in the last 9 was against the Raiders in Oakland but even there they are I think 3-5 at home this season. Otherwise they have played just down right terrible teams and have struggled to even beat some of them lately. While I do think the Chiefs stand a good chance of beating the Texans in the Wildcard round I just see them once they actually go against even a decent team really struggling.

 

[iknowftbll]

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Chiefs ousted by the Texans. The Chiefs O-line still is nothing special, and the Texans defense has been playing well north of solid ball lately. I question that Weeden and that offense could consistently move the ball against the Chiefs defense but let's not forget: this Texans team went into Cincy, scored just 10 points, and still won the game. I think the Texans would be able to win a low scoring affair, something like 16-13.

With that said, if the Chiefs make it out of the WC round, I hope they wind up in Denver for the Divisional Round. Can you imagine the wailing and nashing of teeth if the Broncos are the team to end the Chiefs season? It would almost be worth seeing them actually win a playoff game just to see it.

All this assumes the current playoff seeding holds up, of course!