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Series Thread: 4) Oklahoma City Thunder vs 5) Utah Jazz

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Its rediculous that Westbrook has to score 50 points every night for his team to win. I like Paul George but I'm sorry he can move on. Theres a reason Indy got a lot better this year after he left. Westbrook and Adams are the only stars on this team and I really like Abrenis. Keep those guys and blow everything else up and build around them.

As for the Jazz good luck against Houston, you're going to need it.
Honestly, PG isnt a very good creator, if he cant make his own shot, you see what happens. In the playoffs Defense Zero in on who is the problem. As we saw with Kobe, and now RW, you let them do everything and stop everyone else. Its a proven method. PG defense was average in this series. Still a very good player, but ehhh.
 

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As the team leader, much of this falls on him. Ramona Shelbourne nailed it with her post that OKC is living and dying by the best and worst of Westbrook's instincts.

Having said that, dude left everything he had on the floor, so it's kind of hard to put much of the blame on him.

BOOM what Shelburne said.

I love RW but between the crazy shots and wild TO's trying to create something......it does fall on his shoulders.

Even if he has the Kobe mindset to want to win it when the game is on the line.
 

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Exactly. Landing PG definitely improves the Lakers and depending on the improvement of the youngsters, likely makes them about a 5-7 seed in the playoffs next season. He does not make them a contender.

However, as you point out, he could be the piece that attracts a franchise guy that will make them a contender.

PG would basically be replacing KCP in the starting lineup and he's a lot better than KCP. I'd say he'd be good for another 4-5 wins and if the other youngsters develop that'd be good for another 5-6 wins.

So with just PG added they'd be in the mid 40's when it comes to wins. If they add another star this offseason (James or Cousins) that goes up, if nor.....next summer get another big fish to come to LA.
 

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Westbrick going all spaz on the Jazz fans was hilarious. frog face Russell needs rehab in anger management
 

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Stupid tweet. If you listened to Russ comments, that wasn't his issue

I heard his comments. He blasted Utah fans for talking crap about player's families, getting personal, etc.. It happens everywhere. I don't agree with it, but Utah fans aren't the only ones that do it. Miami fans have done it to players (remember the crazy kunt who flipped off Noah during a playoff game when he got ejected).

But again, you don't think OKC fans did the same thing to Utah players?
 

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Foul should have been called on Gobert.

But OKC did not deserve to win that game or the series. They took so many bad shots. Basketball karma has its way of catching up.[/QU


I never inplied OKC deserved anything other than that to have been called a foul.
 

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On PG to LA:

Maybe I'm just trying not to get my hopes up...after all, I'm an admitted PG fanboy. But I'm not convinced that he's coming to the Lakers.

Don't get me wrong. I think chances are more likely than not that PG leaves and if he does, he's likely coming to the Lakers.

Getting bounced in the 1st round is pretty much a worst case scenario for OKC keeping him. About the only thing worse would be having missed the playoffs and even that may not have been as bad depending on the reason.

However, when the "OK3" were on the same page, they looked like a team that could take down the Warriors and Rockets. Also, until last night, PG was the Thunders leading scorer in the series which may indicate that on some level, Westbrook was at least trying to share.

It will likely come down to how well OKC (and Westbrook) can sell PG on the idea that they can co-exist and win a lot more games vs. how well the Lakers can sell him on their youth movement, grabbing another max level guy and how badly he wants to return to LA.
Yeah, I'm not sold he's going to the Lakers either.

I also have a sneaking suspicion it's not just a two team race.

I think the Lakers would be a higher priority if you could land another piece in addition to him.

But, his words after the game lead me to believe OKC is not out of the race either. But, they would have to give him the full max. If not, he's out.

"It was an amazing season," George said. "Really a learning experience. Playing off Russ and Melo [Carmelo Anthony]. Steve-o [Steven Adams]. Seeing what potential is like having [Andre Roberson] out there. It was a lot to be happy about. The fans, city, organization -- everything has been unbelievable."

George said "it's too soon" to make any decision.

"I would love to remain a Thunder, but that's what this summer is for. We'll address that in the summer," George said.
 

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Royce Young from ESPN.com:

Melo asked about possibly coming off the bench: "I'm not sacrificing no bench role. So that's out of the question."


Skipping the hilarious grammar, OKC gonna be a trainwreck next year. PG leaves, Westbrook averages another triple double, OKC misses the playoffs with 40 wins.
 

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I heard his comments. He blasted Utah fans for talking crap about player's families, getting personal, etc.. It happens everywhere. I don't agree with it, but Utah fans aren't the only ones that do it. Miami fans have done it to players (remember the crazy kunt who flipped off Noah during a playoff game when he got ejected).

But again, you don't think OKC fans did the same thing to Utah players?

No we are not Mormon. :D
 

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Yeah, I'm not sold he's going to the Lakers either.

I also have a sneaking suspicion it's not just a two team race.

I think the Lakers would be a higher priority if you could land another piece in addition to him.

But, his words after the game lead me to believe OKC is not out of the race either. But, they would have to give him the full max. If not, he's out.

"It was an amazing season," George said. "Really a learning experience. Playing off Russ and Melo [Carmelo Anthony]. Steve-o [Steven Adams]. Seeing what potential is like having [Andre Roberson] out there. It was a lot to be happy about. The fans, city, organization -- everything has been unbelievable."

George said "it's too soon" to make any decision.

"I would love to remain a Thunder, but that's what this summer is for. We'll address that in the summer," George said.

He's gone.
 

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Royce Young from ESPN.com:

Melo asked about possibly coming off the bench: "I'm not sacrificing no bench role. So that's out of the question."


Skipping the hilarious grammar, OKC gonna be a trainwreck next year. PG leaves, Westbrook averages another triple double, OKC misses the playoffs with 40 wins.
I would buy him out.

Or

Tell him in advance he's getting the Deng treatment and dare his ass to opt out.
 

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No we are not Mormon. :D

I know, or at least hope, this is you joking.

But, we have a guy who is a regular here and he's Morman.

He's a pretty upstanding individual. So, this is foul as fuck.

Replace the word Mormon with Black, Mexican, Republican or Democrat and weed have a riot.

I'm not trying to be the PC or Fun police.

Just giving you a heads up.
 

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I know, or at least hope, this is you joking.

But, we have a guy who is a regular here and he's Morman.

He's a pretty upstanding individual. So, this is foul as fuck.

Replace the word Mormon with Black, Mexican, Republican or Democrat and weed have a riot.

I'm not trying to be the PC or Fun police.

Just giving you a heads up.

Hence the "smiley"....
 

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I would buy him out.

Or

Tell him in advance he's getting the Deng treatment and dare his ass to opt out.

You don't think he calls that bluff?

Melo has had this decision a couple times in his career and he has picked $ every single time. I think it isn't less than 1% that he opts out.

There might be a chance that he agrees to be stretched if PG13 stays and if he is happy in OKC. Two big ifs.
 

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You don't think he calls that bluff?

Melo has had this decision a couple times in his career and he has picked $ every single time. I think it isn't less than 1% that he opts out.

There might be a chance that he agrees to be stretched if PG13 stays and if he is happy in OKC. Two big ifs.

Seriously.

I can't for the life of me understand why autocorrect would change "is" to "isn't".

WTF?

Adding extra letters that completely reverse the meaning. So stupid.
 
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