Game Thread: 4.10 Double Rook Debut

[tzill]

If this was an opening rather than a start, we would be saying he was OK. 3.2 only giving up 2. Not HORRIBLE.

psst...cal...HE WASN'T SIGNED TO BE AN OPENER.

 

[calsnowskier]

psst...cal...HE WASN'T SIGNED TO BE AN OPENER.

psst…tz…HE WAS SIGNED TO HELP WIN GAMES

 

[Mays-Fan]

Ramosexuals Unite!!

It's a good thing we never signed Doug Fister

 

[calsnowskier]

It's a good thing we never signed Doug Fister

Or Pokey Reese

Or Quentin Jammer

Or Rudy Gay

Or De’Cody Fagg

…

 

[tzill]

Absolutely

Just rewatched it this morning. I agree with you. It's a legit hit.

 

[tzill]

psst…tz…HE WAS SIGNED TO HELP WIN GAMES

psst...cal...THEY ALL ARE SIGNED TO HELP WIN GAMES.

Disco wasn't very helpful yesterday.

 

[tzill]

It's a good thing we never signed Doug Fister

 

[calsnowskier]

psst...cal...THEY ALL ARE SIGNED TO HELP WIN GAMES.

Disco wasn't very helpful yesterday.

2 runs in 3.1 IP. Not what we want from him as his average outing, sure. But if this is his definition of a shit-the-bed, absolute blowup, I will take it.

 

[tzill]

2 runs in 3.1 IP. Not what we want from him as his average outing, sure. But if this is his definition of a shit-the-bed, absolute blowup, I will take it.

Sure, if all you're looking at is ER and IP. WHIP? hits/outs recorded?

He sucked. No good way to spin a 10 out, 8 hit performance.

Put another way: will he have a shorter outing all year long? Unlikely.

He was lucky it was only 2 runs. Bed was shat, we just changed the sheets quickly.

 

[calsnowskier]

Sure, if all you're looking at is ER and IP. WHIP? hits/outs recorded?

He sucked. No good way to spin a 10 out, 8 hit performance.

Put another way: will he have a shorter outing all year long? Unlikely.

He was lucky it was only 2 runs. Bed was shat, we just changed the sheets quickly.

Runs and IP (or, ERA) is the ONLY thing that matters at the end of the day. When he left the game, the game was still in contention. It was not a “looking at tomorrow” game.

He had a bad day. But he was able to scrap through it and not get totally rocked, scoreboard-wise. He was given a pile of shit, but made the best tasting pile of shit-aide any of us have ever tasted.

 

[msgkings322]

Or Pokey Reese

Or Quentin Jammer

Or Rudy Gay

Or De’Cody Fagg

…

Or Mike Piazza

 

[msgkings322]

Sure, if all you're looking at is ER and IP. WHIP? hits/outs recorded?

He sucked. No good way to spin a 10 out, 8 hit performance.

Put another way: will he have a shorter outing all year long? Unlikely.

He was lucky it was only 2 runs. Bed was shat, we just changed the sheets quickly.

Your problem, as always, is you have only two categories: great job and total shitshow. You don't allow for rough starts that don't put the game out of reach (like this one).

On a scale of 1 (worst) to 10 (best) yesterday was about a 5. One run was on a sac fly. That's not a bed-shitting.

 

[calsnowskier]

Or Mike Piazza

 

[tzill]

Your problem, as always, is you have only two categories: great job and total shitshow. You don't allow for rough starts that don't put the game out of reach (like this one).

On a scale of 1 (worst) to 10 (best) yesterday was about a 5. One run was on a sac fly. That's not a bed-shitting.

I'd say a 4. Not good. Not a zero, but not good. He stressed the bullpen. Fortunately, its early in the season and they're relatively fresh. If he had gone 4 with 2 ER and say 5 hits...then I'd say it was a 5 or a 6. Passable.

 

[calsnowskier]

I'd say a 4. Not good. Not a zero, but not good. He stressed the bullpen. Fortunately, its early in the season and they're relatively fresh. If he had gone 4 with 2 ER and say 5 hits...then I'd say it was a 5 or a 6. Passable.

End of the day, what does it matter how many hits he gives up? Giving up 2 solo HRs is the same as giving up 10 singles that only resulted in 2 runs.

I would agree, though, that on msg’s 1-10 scale the start was probably closer to a 4 than a 5. I just don’t act like it was a 2 when it was, in fact, a 4.

 

[tzill]

End of the day, what does it matter how many hits he gives up? Giving up 2 solo HRs is the same as giving up 10 singles that only resulted in 2 runs.

I would agree, though, that on msg’s 1-10 scale the start was probably closer to a 4 than a 5. I just don’t act like it was a 2 when it was, in fact, a 4.

oh, you've seen me post on the 2 performances. This wasn't that.

 

[calsnowskier]

oh, you've seen me post on the 2 performances. This wasn't that.

No. When someone actually have a “2” performance, you act like it was really a “-1” performance

 

[msgkings322]

I'd say a 4. Not good. Not a zero, but not good. He stressed the bullpen. Fortunately, its early in the season and they're relatively fresh. If he had gone 4 with 2 ER and say 5 hits...then I'd say it was a 5 or a 6. Passable.

The other thing you'll need to recalibrate is how many innings are needed for a good outing. As the game evolves to basically all bullpen all the time, starters simply aren't needed/expected to go deep into games. They don't WANT them to, because the 3rd time through the order is where bad stuff happens.

So 5 innings is the new 6 innings. 5 and dive is now 4 and dive. Hell 8 innings is like a shutout LOL

 

[tzill]

The other thing you'll need to recalibrate is how many innings are needed for a good outing. As the game evolves to basically all bullpen all the time, starters simply aren't needed/expected to go deep into games. They don't WANT them to, because the 3rd time through the order is where bad stuff happens.

So 5 innings is the new 6 innings. 5 and dive is now 4 and dive. Hell 8 innings is like a shutout LOL

Agreed. 5 innings is now a good outing.

 

[msgkings322]

Fucking Profar.