Series Thread: 2nd Round: Chicago Bulls vs Cleveland Cavaliers

[Beengay fudgepackers]

I agree, like you said its for both Rose and LBJ. When Rose attacks the offense opens up. That's why I was so mad last game. 2nd Q drought Rose took 1 shot and only drove once. End of 3rd Q into the 4th Q drought same thing Rose took 1 jump shot and didn't drive once. He needs to control the game and attack more.

Same can be said about James. When he attacks he doesn't turnover the ball as much and his role players benefit from him driving.

Actually, it's quite the contrary. Lebron is gun shy about attacking because Butler and the Bulls are forcing him to turn it over. Butler isn't letting Lebron go where he wants to break down the defense, causing Lebron to make bad passes. Butler is also picking his pocket. Lebron hasnt been attacking the basket because it hasn't been working as well.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I agree with Wiggy. I dont like this whole situation for the Cavs especially shooting bad the other night. They just dont have enough in this series, they are outmaned and not as strong as the Bulls on both sides.....



...but we have hope. LEBRON

 

[Shanemansj13]

LBJ just as much luck, have you seen him shot as of late.

That's why the shot is even more clutch. People were saying he isnt clutch, well when his shot is bad he still makes it. It wasnt luck for the fact he has proved he is cold-blooded clutch.

 

[gordontrue]

So far... every game has been won by the team with the most rebounds.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I hear you. A lot of the shots Lebron are shooting aren't good shots though. They look like good shots because Butler is giving him space, but he often hesitates before shooting that shot. That's partly because Butler is in his head. As a coach, I would much rather a player take a contested shot in rhythm without hesitating than a player to take a wide open shot after hesitating. If you hesitate to take a shot, you might as well either put the ball on the floor or pass it to someone else, because odds are that shot isn't going in.

Honestly, Butler could be in his head but I dont think that is the case. I think his touch is just off. It happens. This year as a whole has been different for Lebron, new team, new players, different situation. It takes time to get used to, not saying that is the reason for the decline. But I think next year will be the year to judge Lebron on if he is declining or not, change could be a key though.

 

[purguy12]

That's why the shot is even more clutch. People were saying he isnt clutch, well when his shot is bad he still makes it. It wasnt luck for the fact he has proved he is cold-blooded clutch.

He is not cold blooded. If was a big shot but not a Crazy big shot. Meaning it wasn't like they were losing at the time. Worst case it would be OT. I do think he has a little more clutch in him but he also has missed way more then he has made. recently I did some research and found out he was more clutch then Kobe but Kobe has taken double amount of last min shots. Also Kobe was better at buzzer beaters. ESPN did a whole breakdown on this. LBJ likes to pass the ball more in these situations. Last Game was one of his 1st. It was a great shot and I respect it but he isn't Cold blooded.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Honestly, Butler could be in his head but I dont think that is the case. I think his touch is just off. It happens. This year as a whole has been different for Lebron, new team, new players, different situation. It takes time to get used to, not saying that is the reason for the decline. But I think next year will be the year to judge Lebron on if he is declining or not, change could be a key though.

So taking a break midway through the season tells you that he needs to build chemistry with his team and not rest his aging body?

 

[gordontrue]

 

[Shanemansj13]

He is not cold blooded. If was a big shot but not a Crazy big shot. Meaning it wasn't like they were losing at the time. Worst case it would be OT. I do think he has a little more clutch in him but he also has missed way more then he has made. recently I did some research and found out he was more clutch then Kobe but Kobe has taken double amount of last min shots. Also Kobe was better at buzzer beaters. ESPN did a whole breakdown on this. LBJ likes to pass the ball more in these situations. Last Game was one of his 1st. It was a great shot and I respect it but he isn't Cold blooded.

But if he doesnt make that shot. It is overtime, not good for the Cavs. If they go down 3-1, this series is most likely over.

 

[gordontrue]

So taking a break midway through the season tells you that he needs to build chemistry with his team and not rest his aging body?

Lets not forget he was dealing with injury. Yes, it was an injury he could've played through... but let's not pretend that getting rest was purely about his age. He chose to rest to let the injury heal completely.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Lets not forget he was dealing with injury. Yes, it was an injury he could've played through... but let's not pretend that getting rest was purely about his age. He chose to rest to let the injury heal completely.

Age is about injuries. The older you get, the more you get. Lebron is already hurt again by the way.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Final 24 Sec (Playoffs since 2000)
Player FG FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% Ast'd Ast'd
Kobe 6 21 0.286 1 8 0.125 1 0.167
LeBron 5 12 0.417 1 3 0.333 1 0.200
Wade 2 5 0.400 0 2 0.000 0 0.000

Final Minute (Playoffs since 2000)
Player FG FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% Ast'd Ast'd
Kobe 10 31 0.323 2 10 0.200 2 0.200
LeBron 10 20 0.500 1 3 0.333 1 0.100
Wade 3 10 0.300 1 5 0.200 1 0.333

"Clutch" (Playoffs since 2000)
Player FG FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% Ast'd Ast'd
Kobe 81 203 0.399 11 41 0.268 12 0.148
LeBron 70 154 0.455 17 48 0.354 10 0.143
Wade 39 102 0.382 4 15 0.267 5 0.128

This is just Lebron, Kobe, and Wade in the playoffs since 2000.

Kobe made 1 more shot in the final 24 seconds but missed 9 more than Lebron.

 

[Hambombs]

Looking forward to this game. Hopefully kyrie is healthy enough

 

[Hambombs]

Same with Paul gasol

 

[Shanemansj13]

So taking a break midway through the season tells you that he needs to build chemistry with his team and not rest his aging body?

Could be or couldnt be. Wouldnt say that is the deciding factor though.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Age is about injuries. The older you get, the more you get. Lebron is already hurt again by the way.

Not always true, but the body does deteriorate (spelling probably wrong lol)

 

[Shanemansj13]

"There goes that man!" - Mark Jackson

 

[WiggyRuss]

I agree with Wiggy. I dont like this whole situation for the Cavs especially shooting bad the other night. They just dont have enough in this series, they are outmaned and not as strong as the Bulls on both sides.....



...but we have hope. LEBRON

Exactly- LeBron is the one trump card. I mean- I thought this was going to be a close series in October when the season started and thinking both sides would be healthy. How it is right now the Cavs should consider themselves lucky to be in such a good spot- and I hope the Bulls get a little tight this game like they did last game. Its not an option for the Cavs to give up like 100 points because i dont see how they get to 100 points unless Bron is on fire.

If it was just the Love and Varejao thing thats one thing- but shit , LeBron isnt 100%, Kyrie is a shell of himself, Shumpert after playing GREAT in the first two games has been playing crappy with his injury. ITs why JR Smith has to step up big time- he seems healthy, got rest because of the suspension, and seems like he has something to prove- he is going to have to be what he was mis-cast as in NY- the #2 scoring option.--the Bulls def have their own issues with what sounds like No Pau, and Noah cant make a layup.

Can JR be the #2 scoring option and put up something near 20 tonight? If he can the Cavs should win- if he cant, and Kyrie is playing crappy- they will need so much help from the old dudes i dont think it is gonna work...I just have the feeling that if the Bulls play an A game the Cavs dont have the horses to match it right now. Now- there is nothing that says the Bulls are going to play an A game- that is for sure- my fear is if they do that the Cavs just wont keep up.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Not always true, but the body does deteriorate (spelling probably wrong lol)

No, it's always true. Father Time is a bitch. Seriously, you never fully heal from injuries. There is always scar tissue that is much easier to reinjure.

 

[Shanemansj13]

No, it's always true. Father Time is a bitch. Seriously, you never fully heal from injuries. There is always scar tissue that is much easier to reinjure.

The injuries Lebron had werent serious, fortunately he has been healthy most of his career. Even logging a shit ton of minutes he is still durable, more than others at this age. He will eventually have to switch up his game but that is years from now.