21 of the Starters are Getting Better

[L.Freamon]

...and then there's Sam Bradford. It's 6 weeks in and I believe this is his ceiling. If he didn't light up this team, he's not going to light up anybody. This is who he is: the bottom 25% of QBs.

We're a QB away from being competitive. Again.

 

[L.Freamon]

We're also going to hear in the offseason how Jason Kelce isn't a team player.

 

[Wings]

Trade for this guy

 

[deerpathdave]

I thought Zach Ertz also sucked. 3 incompletions and at least one INT were on him. He needs to go up and attack the ball...even when it is overtthrown.

Aside from Ertz, Bradford and Kelce though it was a great performance all around. OL is dominant. Excellent running by Murray. Great D after the first drive.

 

[DaEagles]

Not sure you can say 21...

Bradford is terrible (I actually want to see Sanchez which is pretty bad in itself), Maxwell is terrible. He was a product of the best secondary in the league. Guards are terrible. JMatthews needs to show some consistency.

Front 7 on D is damn good.

This team is tough to watch. They show spurts of being what we expected and then they look like the worst damn team in the NFL.

I'm just waiting to see a complete good game out of them. And I actually want to see how they do against a good team. They got a LONG ways to go to even be considered a good team. We've played all shitty teams but 1.

 

[WIZ]

This team is coming together. Sure, not MNF ready but let's wait 3 weeks. It's a brand new team and I'm giving Bradford and all of them some time.

 

[old duke]

Ertz: Still waiting for him to be the great TE he's supposed to be.

Maxwell: Stop smiling when you get beat! We know that you have the $$ i the bank. Just earn it!

 

[deerpathdave]

We've played all shitty teams but 1.

Falcons are 5-1
Cowboys are 2-3
Jets are 4-1
Redskins are 2-3
Saints are 2-4
Giants are 3-3

Overall 18-15 With two teams that would be in the playoffs is the season ended today (As would the Eagles).

There really are no terrible teams in the NFL. Anyone can beat anyone and every win is a quality win. They are 3-3 and in the playoff hunt. Got to be happy with that after how things looked two weeks ago.

 

[deerpathdave]

Maxwell: Stop smiling when you get beat! We know that you have the $$ i the bank. Just earn it!

Zero plays over 20 yards and holding the Giants to 7 points. Let Maxwell smile a little.

 

[eaglesnut]

Some of you should cry more.

That was a brutal all around game and we won without much trouble.

 

[deerpathdave]

Some of you should cry more.

That was a brutal all around game and we won without much trouble.

this.

They just beat two Hall of Fame QBs in successive weeks holding them to 24 total points. And this one was for first place in the division.

 

[iceman42]

Improving you can take the WR group out of there other then Austin. OL has improved, from being crap to less then crap. TEs are meh, other then some blocking.

I think the Sam Bradford experiment needs to end, I'm not going to put this all on him as not sure if the miscommunication that keeps on happening is him alone. Obviously if you go to Sanchez there is no going back to Bradford, and we as fans only have limited exposure as to what is going on and if its play calling, miscommunication and collection of issues. However there wasnt this much confusion or miscommunication with Foles, Vick or Sanchez.

 

[deerpathdave]

Improving you can take the WR group out of there other then Austin. OL has improved, from being crap to less then crap. TEs are meh, other then some blocking.

I think the Sam Bradford experiment needs to end, I'm not going to put this all on him as not sure if the miscommunication that keeps on happening is him alone. Obviously if you go to Sanchez there is no going back to Bradford, and we as fans only have limited exposure as to what is going on and if its play calling, miscommunication and collection of issues. However there wasnt this much confusion or miscommunication with Foles, Vick or Sanchez.

Watch every interception thrown by Eli Manning, Sam Bradford - NFL Nation - ESPN

I don't have a huge issue with the INTs.

The first one I felt was as much on Ertz as Bradford. Ertz needs to go up and knock it down.

The second one seemed to be a miscommunication on the deep ball with Cooper. Bradford had all day out there and he and Cooper were simply not on the same page. That is correctable in the meeting room.

The third one he probably tried to squeeze it in there a little too tight.

Remember this is the guy who only three weeks ago we were tagging as a check down artist who was afraid to go deep. Now we are seeing him throw the ball down the field. Its the right mindset albeit not always the right results. I think he can get better from there. If he was still afraid to try these plays I would be more worried.

 

[L.Freamon]

He's underthrowing everyone. Bradford reminds me of all the things i disliked about McNabb (ground balls), Foles (underthrows), Sanchez (innacurate). All 3 left plays on the field. Sam leaves as many plays on the field as all of them combined.

Standings wise, we're better off than we were 3 weeks ago. However, it's hard for me to be excited @ 3-3 playing like sh!t because you can't count on the other teams playing like dogshit every week too. If you could, i'd be just as giggly as some of the rest of you.

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

I dont mind chucking the INTs down the field.
It opened up some of the running game lanes finally.

In the first few games, it was 99.99% check-down stuff that bogged up the offense.
The long throws were sloppy no doubt, but they were correctable mistakes.

Airing it out really helped jumpstart the running game a bit.
I like the overall strategy of looking downfield more often.

 

[deerpathdave]

He's underthrowing everyone. Bradford reminds me of all the things i disliked about McNabb (ground balls), Foles (underthrows), Sanchez (innacurate). All 3 left plays on the field. Sam leaves as many plays on the field as all of them combined.

Standings wise, we're better off than we were 3 weeks ago. However, it's hard for me to be excited @ 3-3 playing like sh!t because you can't count on the other teams playing like dogshit every week too. If you could, i'd be just as giggly as some of the rest of you.

Except that two of the three INTs were overthrows or miscommunications. And its hard to say that a guy that completed 63% of his passes was inaccurate.

I am with you on not being giggly, but I am not sure you were watching the same Sam Bradford I was last night. He threw for 280 yards. Completed 63% of his passes. Him and Sproles missed that Wheel Route on the first play. Cooper went short and Bradford went long on the one INT. So there is some miscommunications going on for sure, but alot of positives as well. And the miscommunications are correctable with play and practice.

I was more concerned with Ertz's play than anyone else. I expect him to go up and fight for balls and I didn't see that last night.

 

[iceman42]

Watch every interception thrown by Eli Manning, Sam Bradford - NFL Nation - ESPN

I don't have a huge issue with the INTs.

The first one I felt was as much on Ertz as Bradford. Ertz needs to go up and knock it down.

The second one seemed to be a miscommunication on the deep ball with Cooper. Bradford had all day out there and he and Cooper were simply not on the same page. That is correctable in the meeting room.

The third one he probably tried to squeeze it in there a little too tight.

Remember this is the guy who only three weeks ago we were tagging as a check down artist who was afraid to go deep. Now we are seeing him throw the ball down the field. Its the right mindset albeit not always the right results. I think he can get better from there. If he was still afraid to try these plays I would be more worried.

Its not just the interceptions and I agree it not all him and since we are not privileged to be in the coaches office, etc we dont really know who is to blame, yes the INT to Cooper was a miscommunication, I'm not sure Cooper would have caught up to it. Ertz should have knocked it down, but he is fighting for a 50/50 ball and had it at first but couldnt bring it off the the Giants facemask. The other one he either under threw Riley or over threw Ertz .. maybe he couldnt decide who to throw it too. Issue is there seems to be a lot more miscommunication then in the past (Foles, Sanchez, Vick) and its leading to incompletions and interceptions.

 

[deerpathdave]

Its not just the interceptions and I agree it not all him and since we are not privileged to be in the coaches office, etc we dont really know who is to blame, yes the INT to Cooper was a miscommunication, I'm not sure Cooper would have caught up to it. Ertz should have knocked it down, but he is fighting for a 50/50 ball and had it at first but couldnt bring it off the the Giants facemask. The other one he either under threw Riley or over threw Ertz .. maybe he couldnt decide who to throw it too. Issue is there seems to be a lot more miscommunication then in the past (Foles, Sanchez, Vick) and its leading to incompletions and interceptions.

Yep. Way too much miscommunication. Yet they have won the last two games easily. Can't wait to see what this team can do when they start hitting on all cylinders. They seem headed in the right direction now as opposed to what we saw a month ago.

 

[eaglesnut]

Sam is gaining confidence every week, every win, every big throw, every hit. He was moving way better out there last night. We haven't seen his best game yet, nor have we needed it. Piece by piece this thing is coming together. If Chip's a good coach we'll be peaking right at the right time.

 

[Wings]

Some of you are watching a much different game then I am. I see a qb that is not comfortable in the pocket, won't step up in the pocket and doesn't follow his progressions, instead his head looks like a bobble head swinging back and forth. He short hops balls and under throws the deep balls because he doesn't plant that left leg and step into his throws. He doesn't throw the football with any velocity either, he was lucky he didn't throw a pick 6 on that bubble screen. He looks to me right now like he is afraid. He also does not read a defense well at all. I see no Moxy, no take charge ability out there. I see a qb that simply does not look comfortable in any way. That presents a serious problem. Had we played a team like the Cardinals, packers, Denver or New England last night we would have lost by 20.