21 of the Starters are Getting Better

[Iron Eagle]

Bradford has gotta cut down on the dumb throws. Matthews caught more than he dropped so that's progress.

We need more 2 TE sets. Ertz is finally getting into the offense and Strugis didn't make me nervous.

Aside from the first series, the entire defense was pretty damn nice.

We left way too man points on the field but it finally looks like we're getting some cohesion.

 

[TheSnowdog]

Eagles should have kept Foles - he has the better QBR:

30 Nick Foles, STL 9.8 -0.4 -6.0 1.2 4.7 179 6.3 -8.2 35.0

32 Sam Bradford, PHI 5.1 -0.5 -2.6 2.5 4.5 277 7.0 -15.3 32.0

 

[Susky]

Aside from his current performance, what bothers me is that there is nobody being groomed or developed for the long run.

 

[eaglesnut]

Aside from his current performance, what bothers me is that there is nobody being groomed or developed for the long run.

We haven't had that luxury. The team's been getting rebuilt and we sill don't have enough young talented olinemen.

 

[Rambulance]

Hey, don't feel bad guys, Rams' fans are still waiting for him to get better too.

 

[northeastphillyguy]

Demeco Ryans is a game changer. Giants were ready to score again in the 1st quarter and he stole the ball away to stop the drive. Bradford found our underated wide receiver for a touchdown on the next drive. Later
on, Ryans recovered a fumble. The defense has been amazing. After 3 turnovers they did not allow the Giants to score once! Bradford is using all the receivers and starting to throw the long ball. The run game is working. We are 3-1 since losing the 1st two games. I see a lot of positive things happening. I think bradford will improve and
make the right throws as time goes by. GO EAGLES!

 

[Susky]

We haven't had that luxury. The team's been getting rebuilt and we sill don't have enough young talented olinemen.

I would have agreed if they made even a small attempt at drafting a lineman.

If they had the time to waste on Tebow, they certainly had time to at least do the Ron Wolf thing and grab a project QB.

 

[Susky]

And to me, a big part of rebuilding is having a longer term view for the franchise, not wheeling and dealing for journeyman QBs who might not even get you through two seasons.

 

[Iggloo]

Which is a bigger fraud, Enron or Sam Bradford?

 

[deerpathdave]

First y'all tore apart the OL. Peters, Kelce, Barbre, Gardner. All frauds or over the hill or incompetent journeyman. Now? False Alarm.

Then it was Byron Maxwell. Overpaid. Can't cover. Now? False Alarm.

Then you took aim at Chip Kelly. System doesn't work. The NFL has figured it out. Now? False Alarm.

Then it was Murray. Too North South a runner. Can't run out of the Shotgun. Now? False Alarm.

y'all are developing a lousy track record with your week to week reactionary BS.

So I am not buying into the anti-Bradford talk this week. A week or two from now it will all be forgotten and you will move on to your next target.

The good news is for creative guys like you there is always someone to hate on.

 

[DutchBird]

He looks like shit bro.....I hope your right....right now he looks like Bobby Hoying.

On another site they had an article where they did say Bradford played bad, but they pointed out that many QB's take two years to recover from ACL's, and usually play (relatively speaking to their 'normal') like crap the season they come back from the ACL, regularly the worst of their career (excluding when they should have retired already or the first season). Even Brady had something like a 15+ points QB rating drop off for that season (and a 15+ rise the next season). Same - for instance - for McNabb.

Trent Dilfer - in the radio podcast piece on ESPN - pretty much suggested the same. That - apart from some hesitancy for getting hit and reinjuring - seems to also be related to simply weaker lower-body strength (which takes longer to recover); this affecting throws, for instance by falling short.

That said - unless Bradford falls completely off the cliff - there is no viable alternative to him. We know what Sanchez can do (and cannot do); and allegedly there will be nothing out there next year either as FA or as QB-prospect in the draft that could reasonably expected to outperform Bradford. At best some developmental options.

 

[old duke]

Which is a bigger fraud, Enron or Sam Bradford?

Hillary.

 

[old duke]

On another site they had an article where they did say Bradford played bad, but they pointed out that many QB's take two years to recover from ACL's, and usually play (relatively speaking to their 'normal') like crap the season they come back from the ACL, regularly the worst of their career (excluding when they should have retired already or the first season). Even Brady had something like a 15+ points QB rating drop off for that season (and a 15+ rise the next season). Same - for instance - for McNabb.

Trent Dilfer - in the radio podcast piece on ESPN - pretty much suggested the same. That - apart from some hesitancy for getting hit and reinjuring - seems to also be related to simply weaker lower-body strength (which takes longer to recover); this affecting throws, for instance by falling short.

That said - unless Bradford falls completely off the cliff - there is no viable alternative to him. We know what Sanchez can do (and cannot do); and allegedly there will be nothing out there next year either as FA or as QB-prospect in the draft that could reasonably expected to outperform Bradford. At best some developmental options.

I think the Draft will have several good QB's that can be groomed Chip's Way.

 

[Iron Eagle]

First y'all tore apart the OL. Peters, Kelce, Barbre, Gardner. All frauds or over the hill or incompetent journeyman. Now? False Alarm.

Then it was Byron Maxwell. Overpaid. Can't cover. Now? False Alarm.

Then you took aim at Chip Kelly. System doesn't work. The NFL has figured it out. Now? False Alarm.

Then it was Murray. Too North South a runner. Can't run out of the Shotgun. Now? False Alarm.

y'all are developing a lousy track record with your week to week reactionary BS.

So I am not buying into the anti-Bradford talk this week. A week or two from now it will all be forgotten and you will move on to your next target.

The good news is for creative guys like you there is always someone to hate on.

He threw 3 picks, you schmuck. ....no one with a lick of sense is going to be positive about that. He almost blew the one TD he got.

 

[Los Eagles]

I don't like what I'm seeing from Sam Bradford. He doesn't anticipate well and is continually missing throws and turning the ball over. Jordan Matthews keeps dropping passes. We should run the ball a little more. I saw Murray with a burst that I hadn't seen all year.

 

[Iggloo]

Deerpathdave is a Tim Tebow fan. That tells you what he knows about NFL quarterbacking.

 

[Iron Eagle]

I'm just happy Bradford didn't sign that extension. ......insane to think that we actually offered him one.

If by some miracle he continues (I know he sucked last night, but he did at least look comfortable enough to move and evade) to improve, we can sign him for cheap.

 

[deerpathdave]

He threw 3 picks, you schmuck. ....no one with a lick of sense is going to be positive about that. He almost blew the one TD he got.

Yet hardly a word about his 24 completions, 63% completion rate or 280 yards. His net net on the day was not as bad as reading here would suggest. And for a guy that historically has not turned the ball over, its reasonable to believe that this is something that can be fixed.

I am just thrilled that he isn't looking like that St. Louis guy as he did for the first week or two. He is getting the ball down the field with some success. Its a couple steps in the right direction, albeit with a step back as well.

The problems we are seeing are systemic to the offense and the learning process rather than directly tied to Bradford's abilities. The Team, the Coaching Staff and the Offensive System are as much to blame for the turnovers rather than laying it all on the QB. There are fixable problems and infixable problems. This strikes me as a fixable one.

If we were seeing the same Sam Bradford limitations that they had in St. Louis....Checkdowns and Folding under pressure....Then the right answer would be named Mark Sanchez. We aren't. We are seeing miscommunications and confusion mixed in with some brilliant plays. We are seeing a guy developing and growing in this offensive system. Swapping out the QB at this point would be exasperating the problem rather than solving it.

 

[deerpathdave]

Deerpathdave is a Tim Tebow fan. That tells you what he knows about NFL quarterbacking.

Sadly, if you base it on his analysis, Igloo is not actually a "fan" of any team or anyone. Reviewing his post history it looks like he is approximately 4-1 to say something negative on any post.

Who do you like Igloo? Were you a Barkley fan? Are you impressed with Thad Lewis? Let's hear what you like rather than what you don't for a change.

 

[DaEagles]

First y'all tore apart the OL. Peters, Kelce, Barbre, Gardner. All frauds or over the hill or incompetent journeyman. Now? False Alarm.

Then it was Byron Maxwell. Overpaid. Can't cover. Now? False Alarm.

Then you took aim at Chip Kelly. System doesn't work. The NFL has figured it out. Now? False Alarm.

Then it was Murray. Too North South a runner. Can't run out of the Shotgun. Now? False Alarm.

y'all are developing a lousy track record with your week to week reactionary BS.

So I am not buying into the anti-Bradford talk this week. A week or two from now it will all be forgotten and you will move on to your next target.

The good news is for creative guys like you there is always someone to hate on.

Everything you said there is still an issue...who says anything about False alarm?

OG's...still suck
Maxwell...still overpaid and still can't cover
Murray...still a north/south runner out of a QB under center system

Bradford...still sucks

You act like with a 3-3 record these things have changed...sorry to spoil your jerk off but they haven't.