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2025 NFL Draft: WR Prospects

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Hunter going to be a CB first IMO. He has All Pro CB potential. I do think he will play a lot of 3rd downs on offense also. He is the one player I’d be OK with Dallas trading this years #1 and #2 and next years #2 plus I guess a sweetener? He fills two holes and he is a top 2 talent in the draft as a CB and probably a top 5 as a WR? So why not give up the picks?

The next best guy to me is easily McMillan who is also a top 10 talent IMO. After that I don’t know. If I had to pick I’d probably say Golden but can’t make a real strong case for him over the other guys
 

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Hunter going to be a CB first IMO. He has All Pro CB potential. I do think he will play a lot of 3rd downs on offense also. He is the one player I’d be OK with Dallas trading this years #1 and #2 and next years #2 plus I guess a sweetener? He fills two holes and he is a top 2 talent in the draft as a CB and probably a top 5 as a WR? So why not give up the picks?

The next best guy to me is easily McMillan who is also a top 10 talent IMO. After that I don’t know. If I had to pick I’d probably say Golden but can’t make a real strong case for him over the other guys

DB is harder to play than WR because it's reactionary, they don't always have insight into what the play is... you don't see elite DBs halving their snap counts, they play 100% of snaps unless injured. Hunter said he'll play 100% of snaps, because he's 'different'. Newsflash Hunter, so is basically every NFL player. 120+ snaps a game, lmao... he'll be retired by mid-season if not dead. No coach is going to do that.

He can do DB with some designed playcalls on offense which is easier to incorporate him into. Similar to Deion Sanders in 1996 (Deion was also like a 7 year vet. He also stopped getting any offensive snaps as the season was closing).

That said, financially it's in Hunter's interest to demand to play WR. They are paid significantly more than DBs at the moment.

Last player to fully dual role was Concrete Charlie... that was back when seasons were 12 games, and you didn't have near the rotational depth and rosters size that the current NFL has.
 

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DB is harder to play than WR because it's reactionary, they don't always have insight into what the play is... you don't see elite DBs halving their snap counts, they play 100% of snaps unless injured. Hunter said he'll play 100% of snaps, because he's 'different'. Newsflash Hunter, so is basically every NFL player. 120+ snaps a game, lmao... he'll be retired by mid-season if not dead. No coach is going to do that.

He can do DB with some designed playcalls on offense which is easier to incorporate him into. Similar to Deion Sanders in 1996 (Deion was also like a 7 year vet. He also stopped getting any offensive snaps as the season was closing).

That said, financially it's in Hunter's interest to demand to play WR. They are paid significantly more than DBs at the moment.

Last player to fully dual role was Concrete Charlie... that was back when seasons were 12 games, and you didn't have near the rotational depth and rosters size that the current NFL has.
Yes. That’s what I’m saying he’ll do.
 

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Yes. That’s what I’m saying he’ll do.

I just don't think he fills 2 holes. I don't think any team ever has a 'hole' for a guy you use on offense 10 or so snaps a game. He fills 1 hole (DB) and then adds a bit of value for offense. If you start Hunter at DB and desperately need a WR, you still need a dedicated WR. Pats need another WR and a DB.. Travis does not fill both holes. He fills one and KIND of helps on offense once in a while.

Now Dallas and the Giants both need a DB (Dallas I think slot?)... but they have Lamb/Nabers.. so putting Hunter in makes a little more sense, but if Dallas needs a decent #2.. that's still a hole to fill. Dallas COULD do Hunter as #2 WR and then bring him in nickel packages? Eh... not gonna work. Giants make sense. Play him as a DB.. you got Nabers, bring him in on some trick stuff once in a while... and... Winston or Wilson can throw him the ball :pound:
 

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Hunter going to be a CB first IMO. He has All Pro CB potential. I do think he will play a lot of 3rd downs on offense also. He is the one player I’d be OK with Dallas trading this years #1 and #2 and next years #2 plus I guess a sweetener? He fills two holes and he is a top 2 talent in the draft as a CB and probably a top 5 as a WR? So why not give up the picks?

The next best guy to me is easily McMillan who is also a top 10 talent IMO. After that I don’t know. If I had to pick I’d probably say Golden but can’t make a real strong case for him over the other guys

 

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That makes the most sense. Full time outside CB and essentially 4th WR who sees a few snaps per game. He physically cant do any more.

Anymore than that and...If the D plays 70 snaps and the O plays 70 snaps - lets give him 100% at CB and 25% at WR - that's like 87 snaps per game. 87 over 17 games is 1479 snaps.

Xavier Woods had the most defensive snaps last year at 1218 and Burrow had the most offensive snaps at 1132.

No player is hitting that workload for multiple seasons.
 

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That makes the most sense. Full time outside CB and essentially 4th WR who sees a few snaps per game. He physically cant do any more.

Anymore than that and...If the D plays 70 snaps and the O plays 70 snaps - lets give him 100% at CB and 25% at WR - that's like 87 snaps per game. 87 over 17 games is 1479 snaps.

Xavier Woods had the most defensive snaps last year at 1218 and Burrow had the most offensive snaps at 1132.

No player is hitting that workload for multiple seasons.

87 snaps is a TON btw... especially for his size. Most DBs are doing like 70 snaps max, and that's NOT a good thing for your defense. That's WAY too many. You need a defense that can limit themselves to 60 snaps a game. If Hunter wants 10-15 snaps, they need a TOP run offense (so you control TOP and limit the # of snaps on D)... kind of like, the 96 Cowboys when Deion played both roles and Emmitt/running was the feature of the offense.

The highest snap total last year was Xavier Woods (Carolina) with an average of 71.6 snaps. You put Hunter out there 90 snaps, he'll be injured in no time.

I love the arrogance of Hunter. "I'm built differently" when he said he can play 100% of offensive and defensive snaps. Yah it worked in College dumbass. NFL players are BUILT DIFFERENTLY, too... moron.

Whatever.. he's not crazy athletic. I think he'll be a good DB because he understands the WR game at least at the College level, but that gives him an advantage in defense. He's a top 5 corner pick in this draft anyway. And that's it. And if he's doing 65+ snaps on D week in and out, playing him at WR is borderline assinine.
 
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And to cap it off, a team trading up for Hunter? lol.. that's probably an auto F from me. He's OKAY, but he has to pick one. He wouldn't have even been the 4th WR off the board last year... and Gardner, Stingly, and Witherspoon would've all gone before him at DB.

Fortunately for him the Giants and Patriots which are completely inept organizations are drafting at 3 and 4 and the class is mediocre, so he'll get paid, and then probably fall into oblivion. Happy to admit if I'm wrong.. but he's not playing both positions in College and I don't consider him ELITE at either. He's GOOD, and will probably be serviceable, but meh. If teams are drafting him high because of his dual threat, lol... give me a fuckin' break.
 

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Hunter going to be a CB first IMO. He has All Pro CB potential. I do think he will play a lot of 3rd downs on offense also. He is the one player I’d be OK with Dallas trading this years #1 and #2 and next years #2 plus I guess a sweetener? He fills two holes and he is a top 2 talent in the draft as a CB and probably a top 5 as a WR? So why not give up the picks?

The next best guy to me is easily McMillan who is also a top 10 talent IMO. After that I don’t know. If I had to pick I’d probably say Golden but can’t make a real strong case for him over the other guys

If Hunter only played WR, he wouldnt be a top 15 pick. His athleticism might get him to sneak into the 1st round but the complete lack of polish, playing against low level and size would keep him on the fringe of the 1st round as a straight WR.

But yes as a CB.....absolute top tier.
 

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If Hunter only played WR, he wouldnt be a top 15 pick. His athleticism might get him to sneak into the 1st round but the complete lack of polish, playing against low level and size would keep him on the fringe of the 1st round as a straight WR.

But yes as a CB.....absolute top tier.
This is a hot sports opinion but based on this years WR quality quantity and based on position yearly draft value...Hunter is 1st round, coin flip first or second receiver drafted.

but yes... said earlier in this thread, he's full time corner with 10 to 15 offensive snaps. This dude will play huge from the slot and 4 wide sets.
 

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If Hunter only played WR, he wouldnt be a top 15 pick. His athleticism might get him to sneak into the 1st round but the complete lack of polish, playing against low level and size would keep him on the fringe of the 1st round as a straight WR.

But yes as a CB.....absolute top tier.
Totally disagree. If he played only offense he would have been over the top elite. But, it doesn't matter because he is going to be drafted as a CB
 

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Honestly, I think this whole WR class might be a bit overrated. It feels like the WR run should be in rd2 and not rd1.
 

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Honestly, I think this whole WR class might be a bit overrated. It feels like the WR run should be in rd2 and not rd1.
Yeah I’m glad the Birds aren’t shopping for that this year.
 

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Honestly, I think this whole WR class might be a bit overrated. It feels like the WR run should be in rd2 and not rd1.
I think it will be in rd 2, I think only 3 receivers may go in round 1 - Hunter, McMillan and Golden, and Hunter may play more corner than receiver. It’s possible that another goes in the first round - Egbuka or Burden possibly, but I think rd 2 is when we’ll see more receivers taken. And yeah I don’t think this is a great class for receivers, I’m glad my Falcons are set on offense.
 

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Yeah I’m glad the Birds aren’t shopping for that this year.
I think it'll be a really good class for #2 WRs. Although maybe the current rankings are wrong. For example, Chris Simms has

1. Travis Hunter
2. Kyle Williams (?)
3. Tet McMillan
4. Jaylin Noel
5. Tre Harris
 

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I think it will be in rd 2, I think only 3 receivers may go in round 1 - Hunter, McMillan and Golden, and Hunter may play more corner than receiver. It’s possible that another goes in the first round - Egbuka or Burden possibly, but I think rd 2 is when we’ll see more receivers taken. And yeah I don’t think this is a great class for receivers, I’m glad my Falcons are set on offense.
Honestly, I'm not sure Golden goes rd1. He doesn't have the production and he plays more 4.4 than 4.29, and I dont think he blocks well. He is probably the best route runner. He is a rd2 player with a rd1 combine.
 

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Honestly, I'm not sure Golden goes rd1. He doesn't have the production and he plays more 4.4 than 4.29, and I dont think he blocks well. He is probably the best route runner. He is a rd2 player with a rd1 combine.
I’m not sure he’s worthy of a round 1 pick either. It could be just Hunter and McMillan in round 1.
 

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I’m not sure he’s worthy of a round 1 pick either. It could be just Hunter and McMillan in round 1.
Yeah, when I was doing my mock draft I was hearing a lot of people saying that Hunter and the 2 TEs were the best pass catchers and my thought was 'hey, those TEs are going top 12' when in reality Loveland could drop and the other WRs could drop, too.
 

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Yeah, when I was doing my mock draft I was hearing a lot of people saying that Hunter and the 2 TEs were the best pass catchers and my thought was 'hey, those TEs are going top 12' when in reality Loveland could drop and the other WRs could drop, too.
I think Tyler Warren goes high for sure, if he’s still available at 14 I think the Colts definitely take him given that they didn’t have much production at the TE position last year at all, but it’s possible he goes to the Jets at 7, they need a TE as well and he’s a great player, and there might be a couple of other teams with high picks interested. I think Loveland could fall some but the Colts need a TE so badly I could see them taking him if Warren is gone when they pick.
Definitely not a great receiving class IMO, especially after last year’s fantastic class.
 

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I think it will be in rd 2, I think only 3 receivers may go in round 1 - Hunter, McMillan and Golden, and Hunter may play more corner than receiver. It’s possible that another goes in the first round - Egbuka or Burden possibly, but I think rd 2 is when we’ll see more receivers taken. And yeah I don’t think this is a great class for receivers, I’m glad my Falcons are set on offense.

Those are the only names I've seen mentioned consistently too. It only takes one team to shake that up of course. Maybe someone thinks Higgins is going to be Mike Evans 2.0 and he bumps into the 1st. Never know I guess.

Of those mentioned guys, only McMillan is a likely #1/X receiver. Higgins could be too.
 
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