Hmmm....
How about if it’s Pitt and a much cheaper at least for one more year Pickens insteadI heard that Denver was looking to move up from 20 to 12. Offering Cortland Sutton to move up 8 spots
That's a much nicer deal for Dallas IMO. I could see Pittsburgh making the move. I would have never wanted to waste a year on washed up Aaron Rodgers if I were them. I would think they would want their choice of Sanders or Dart instead of hoping one of them make it to the 20s.How about if it’s Pitt and a much cheaper at least for one more year Pickens instead
I agree, neither of those guys are grabbing me at 12Drop way down if Pierce or Golden.
4.29. He can goI absolutely dont want a receiver at 12, but Jerry likes to fuck with me.
So if we did go WR Golden is the one I would look at as well. Didnt he have the fastest 40?
my problem is other than Lamb who do we have at slot and the #2 WR. we don't have anyone to take the pressure off Lamb who will see double maybe triple coverage every play. and at RB we don't have any workhorse Back to take the carries. we need a McMillian or Golden and solid slot receiver like Egbuka, etc. and at RB we need a Hampton, Henderson or Judkins in this draft.4
4.29. He can go
I completely agree. I'm dead horse on the TE, but it was for all three reasons you stated. Whether it's a TE or a WR, we need a player capable of causing mismatches and demanding a double team. And we need a runner who is a difference makermy problem is other than Lamb who do we have at slot and the #2 WR. we don't have anyone to take the pressure off Lamb who will see double maybe triple coverage every play. and at RB we don't have any workhorse Back to take the carries. we need a McMillian or Golden and solid slot receiver like Egbuka, etc. and at RB we need a Hampton, Henderson or Judkins in this draft.
like i said before none of them have the final decision on the picks. if JJ says i like that kicker from whatever school with our pick 12 they'll take that kicker. and JJ will crow that he won the 1st roundThe stupidest comment Jerry made at the pre draft press conference...."If we don't have a concensus, I'm the tie breaker"....Who the fuck would need to be in the concensus? If Will McClay is your guy, if he has all the info from his scouting department and he has done the work..he says here is our board, just take the highest ranked player who hasn't been taken. Who is the deadlock? Will and Stephen? Jerry Jr? Schotty? Fucking ridiculous
And that's just so stupid. Jerry can tell Will before the process starts, we will need this, this or that, arrange your board with that in mind...and McClay can rank those positions above the others for need, and there's your board. And that's fine, if that's what he wants to do. Or Jerry can say, I don't want to bust, I want the best player regardless of position...and you build it that way, also fine. But on draft day, there should be no damn "tie breaking vote"....why the Hell did you bother putting together a board if you aren't going to stick to it?like i said before none of them have the final decision on the picks. if JJ says i like that kicker from whatever school with our pick 12 they'll take that kicker. and JJ will crow that he won the 1st round
So who helps the offense more? Hampton or Golden? This is the question I would have if I were GM. I would prefer Hampton.I completely agree. I'm dead horse on the TE, but it was for all three reasons you stated. Whether it's a TE or a WR, we need a player capable of causing mismatches and demanding a double team. And we need a runner who is a difference maker
That's kind of the sad reality of where we are right now. We really can't miss. I think the biggest NEED we have(of many) is RB1, so if the draft is need, Hampton is fine at 12. 2nd biggest need is WR2 so McMillian or Golden are fine. Third IMO is CB so Johnson or Barron would be good. NT is 4th, Grant wouod be a good pick. 5th would be LT/RG so Josh Simmons or Booker would work. We need an edge, so Walker works. It's going to be really hard for them to make a pick where I throw something at the TV, but i never underestimate Jerry and Stephens ability to do just thatSo who helps the offense more? Hampton or Golden? This is the question I would have if I were GM. I would prefer Hampton.
Not saying I want them at 12. I prefer a lineman at 12.
this scenario is easy. You always go with the RB.So who helps the offense more? Hampton or Golden? This is the question I would have if I were GM. I would prefer Hampton.
Not saying I want them at 12. I prefer a lineman at 12.
You have to be a little careful with that line of thinking. A big reason for that is that there are basically 3 starting WRs in today’s NFL (and many college teams) and 1 starting RB so of course there will be more players playing the position and more picked at that position. There might be 3 or possibly 4 RBs drafted in the first round, there sure as heck won’t be 12 WRs taken. But to your point, we of course are only looking for 1 RB and 1 WR, not 3 so from that perspective, point taken.this scenario is easy. You always go with the RB.
Every year in the NFL there is a huge influx of quality WRs entering the NFL. Many of them not in the 1st round.
If there was a randy moss type receiver I would do it at 12. There are none. McMillan though he may be the only WR that I consider a "real" 1st rounder .You have to be a little careful with that line of thinking. A big reason for that is that there are basically 3 starting WRs in today’s NFL (and many college teams) and 1 starting RB so of course there will be more players playing the position and more picked at that position. There might be 3 or possibly 4 RBs drafted in the first round, there sure as heck won’t be 12 WRs taken. But to your point, we of course are only looking for 1 RB and 1 WR, not 3 so from that perspective, point taken.
I will take a little of a different approach though. I think Javonte Williams is a better #1 RB than Tolbert is a #2 WR. That doesn’t mean I’m happy with either and it doesn’t mean I let that decide who I draft, but I just think it’s a bigger hole is my only point. I also can’t get around the fact that taken an OL helps both problems and more importantly will at least IMO likely be the better value at 12
I think the way they have gone about the offseason, they have to get a RB in the first two rounds.If there was a randy moss type receiver I would do it at 12. There are none. McMillan though he may be the only WR that I consider a "real" 1st rounder .
I've thought Hampton was a first round talent in this draft even before the combine. I just happen to think this is the deepest RB class in a long time. Henderson is going to also be a great RB. I also like Tuten more than most. We need one of these backs somehow.
that cant be true.I think the way they have gone about the offseason, they have to get a RB in the first two rounds.
I have heard Jamison Williams from Detroit can be had for a 3rd rounder. There won't be any WR on the board nearly as good as him by round 3, I would jump on that.