2025 Cowboy Draft

[UK Cowboy]

That TE from Penn State could be there. He is VERY high on my list if Jeanty is off the board. I would not hesitate to draft him in the middle of the first round. The size and speed combo. The hands. The alpha mentality. This kid is going to be a problem for defenses no doubt about it
This guy is going to be a hell of a player. So yeah, you pointed this kid out to me and I think he is going to be a stud. I got him in my top 10 now

I love this kids game. He would really give this offense a different dynamic. It's like drafting a Brock Bowers or Dalton Kincaid for Dak. Ferguson is a really good TE, he would be unbelievable as a #2. Schoony could be the 3. This team runs as much 2-3 TE alignments as anyone in the league. He would have a major impact day 1

 

[PDay8810]

i think drafting a TE in round one would be the final straw for me.




REALLY WOULD

 

[jarntt]

i think drafting a TE in round one would be the final straw for me.




REALLY WOULD

I started a reply to the TE comments and then deleted it. Sure we could use a great TE, but is that even in our top 10 issues? Ferguson is very good and the second rounder everyone wants to trash is a fine backup regardless of whether or not he was taken too early. I would love a great blocking TE but I sure as heck am not looking in round 1 for it...

 

[Schmoopy1000]

That TE from Penn State could be there. He is VERY high on my list if Jeanty is off the board. I would not hesitate to draft him in the middle of the first round. The size and speed combo. The hands. The alpha mentality. This kid is going to be a problem for defenses no doubt about it
This guy is going to be a hell of a player. So yeah, you pointed this kid out to me and I think he is going to be a stud. I got him in my top 10 now

Oh. TE in the 1st round huh

 

[tomodach10]

I don't want to even think about tight end. We have many more pressing needs.

 

[UK Cowboy]

I started a reply to the TE comments and then deleted it. Sure we could use a great TE, but is that even in our top 10 issues? Ferguson is very good and the second rounder everyone wants to trash is a fine backup regardless of whether or not he was taken too early. I would love a great blocking TE but I sure as heck am not looking in round 1 for it...

I've heard you say many times, as have most on here, that drafting the best player available is always better than drafting for need. The TE will likely be the best player on the board when we pick on the teens. The Chargers took a TE in round one this year, Brock Bowers, and they got a future HOFer. The Cowboys drafted for need the last two years and got Mazi and Guyton. Do you think anyone would trade either guy straight up for Bowers? How about both of them for Bowers? Drafting the most talented player, even a TE isn't the problem for the Cowboys. Their problem is, they stopped signing free agents the last two years to fill needs before the draft and they are left forcing picks for need and here we are

 

[UK Cowboy]

I don't want to even think about tight end. We have many more pressing needs.

That's the problem. The Cowboys are trying to fill all their holes through the draft and UFA. FA is supposed to be about plugging holes. The draft is about acquiring the best talent

 

[Hank Kingsley]

If....not likely at all. I draft Graham but he's top 5

As I’ve said I don’t watch college ball.

But I remember what I read and I read man eater.

I’d like Dallas to get a man eating DT instead of Philly.

 

[UK Cowboy]

As I’ve said I don’t watch college ball.

But I remember what I read and I read man eater.

I’d like Dallas to get a man eating DT instead of Philly.

This is a good year to get one. There are 10 DT's graded as 1st or 2nd round players. Most of them are massive dudes

 

[Hank Kingsley]

I've heard you say many times, as have most on here, that drafting the best player available is always better than drafting for need. The TE will likely be the best player on the board when we pick on the teens. The Chargers took a TE in round one this year, Brock Bowers, and they got a future HOFer. The Cowboys drafted for need the last two years and got Mazi and Guyton. Do you think anyone would trade either guy straight up for Bowers? How about both of them for Bowers? Drafting the most talented player, even a TE isn't the problem for the Cowboys. Their problem is, they stopped signing free agents the last two years to fill needs before the draft and they are left forcing picks for need and here we are

Bowers is a Raider. But correct.

Problem is Ferguson was showing signs of being better than decent until he was hurt, and then not. So they never perceived need which as you say might have made them draft him.

 

[PDay8810]

As I’ve said I don’t watch college ball.

But I remember what I read and I read man eater.

I’d like Dallas to get a man eating DT instead of Philly.

Michigan actually has two.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Bowers is a Raider. But correct.

Problem is Ferguson was showing signs of being better than decent until he was hurt, and then not. So they never perceived need which as you say might have made them draft him.

You're right, I'm watching the Chargers lol(playing well). I like Ferguson and I'm not even saying they should take the Warren Kid. I'm just saying that kid is going to be a GREAT pro player, and if we ended up taking him, it sure wouldn't break my heart. Our problem is we have about 6 major needs, and depending on who we are willing to bring back, that number could grow to 10-11. If they are planning on the draft being the main source of talent acquisition again, I think we are looking at another 6 win season next year

 

[PDay8810]

Ferguson, Schoonmaker, Spann-Ford and even the John Stephens kid.
Hell...I'd pass on Bowers if he was available.

it's early...but I'm already looking at the Georgia safety, Starks.
Young playmaking safety with a first-round grade

 

[UK Cowboy]

Ferguson, Schoonmaker, Spann-Ford and even the John Stephens kid.
Hell...I'd pass on Bowers if he was available.

it's early...but I'm already looking at the Georgia safety, Starks.
Young playmaking safety with a first-round grade

If you think we are that set then I can see your position. Let me change the name though, just out of curiosity. If you knew the TE would be exactly Jason Witten, would you feel the same?
BTW, I think the Georgia safety is a great player as well

 

[Schmoopy1000]

If you think we are that set then I can see your position. Let me change the name though, just out of curiosity. If you knew the TE would be exactly Jason Witten, would you feel the same?
BTW, I think the Georgia safety is a great player as well

To me Jason Witten's worth was who he was to the team in the locker room. Not just being an all pro. So a bit apples & oranges, since no way we would see that in a rookie. (his worth as a leader)
Using Bowers. Here is something to consider.
He is breaking all these TE records. But the raiders went from being a horrible team to a horrible team with a good TE. That position doesnt fix a bad team in anyway. but also BTW. Most 1st round TEs dont do it for the team that drafted them. Even if they end up decent to good, mostly end up not worth the spot used to get them.
For the love of god. Dont draft a TE in the 1st round.

 

[UK Cowboy]

To me Jason Witten's worth was who he was to the team in the locker room. Not just being an all pro. So a bit apples & oranges, since no way we would see that in a rookie. (his worth as a leader)
Using Bowers. Here is something to consider.
He is breaking all these TE records. But the raiders went from being a horrible team to a horrible team with a good TE. That position doesnt fix a bad team in anyway. but also BTW. Most 1st round TEs dont do it for the team that drafted them. Even if they end up decent to good, mostly end up not worth the spot used to get them.
For the love of god. Dont draft a TE in the 1st round.

That's fair, but I'm not drafting a 1st rounder based on his wins impact in year one, its what the player means to the team long-term. What does Travis Kelce mean to Mahomes? George Kittle to Purdy? Mark Andrews to Lamar Jackson? Dallas Goedert to Hurts? Sam LaPorta to Goff?
Maximizing Dak's next four years would be one smart way to go, and a great TE, another RB and the current pound the ball style would do that IMO. Again, in the Cowboys warped way of doing things, they have to pick for need now instead of talent, so I understand why you're saying no TE no way, but the problem is the Cowboys are doing things the wrong way now, sitting out FA and drafting need instead of BPA

 

[Schmoopy1000]

That's fair, but I'm not drafting a 1st rounder based on his wins impact in year one, its what the player means to the team long-term. What does Travis Kelce mean to Mahomes? George Kittle to Purdy? Mark Andrews to Lamar Jackson? Dallas Goedert to Hurts? Sam LaPorta to Goff?
Maximizing Dak's next four years would be one smart way to go, and a great TE, another RB and the current pound the ball style would do that IMO. Again, in the Cowboys warped way of doing things, they have to pick for need now instead of talent, so I understand why you're saying no TE no way, but the problem is the Cowboys are doing things the wrong way now, sitting out FA and drafting need instead of BPA

Thanks for making my point.
Kelce wasnt a 1st round pick.
Kittle wasnt a 1st round pick.
Andrews wasnt a 1st round pick.
Goedert wasnt a 1st round pick.
Witten wasnt a 1st round pick
Hockenson was a 1st round pick who is a good TE but no longer plays on the Lions
Replaced by another 1st rd pick TE in Laporta who is also good, but hasnt done much this season either. So Goff has been doing just fine without relying on Laporta.
BTW Lamar has done well when Andrews wasnt in the lineup either. Same with Purdy.
Remember Vernon Davis. he was gonna be the next great cant miss TE. How about Pitts in Atlanta. They still try to hype him up. Already mentioned Hockenson. What's worse. Almost all these guys were early (1st half) of the 1st round to boot. An All pro TE is nice to have. No one would deny this. Wasting a 1st round pick to try & build around a TE is not good football. Build your all pro TE. (in later rounds) For every Tony Gonzalez (might be one of the only real successful 1st rounders) there is a ton of oops TEs in the 1st. All I can think of off hand is him & Olsen & Olsen ended up making his name for a different team.

What makes (to me) a 1st round long term investment.
Linemen, RB, QB, WR (although restocking WR isnt as hard as other positions in draft) Just about any defensive position.
What I never want to see in the 1st round.
Any special team player
TE
FB

I know I wont change anyone's mind that likes trying for that fabled great 1st rd. TE. & I absolutely wont be changing my mind on how much I will hate the pick in the 1st round.
So we are just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

[PDay8810]

If you think we are that set then I can see your position. Let me change the name though, just out of curiosity. If you knew the TE would be exactly Jason Witten, would you feel the same?
BTW, I think the Georgia safety is a great player as well

witten was a 3rd round pick.

no sure things...college greatness does not equate to NFL star.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Thanks for making my point.
Kelce wasnt a 1st round pick.
Kittle wasnt a 1st round pick.
Andrews wasnt a 1st round pick.
Goedert wasnt a 1st round pick.
Witten wasnt a 1st round pick
Hockenson was a 1st round pick who is a good TE but no longer plays on the Lions
Replaced by another 1st rd pick TE in Laporta who is also good, but hasnt done much this season either. So Goff has been doing just fine without relying on Laporta.
BTW Lamar has done well when Andrews wasnt in the lineup either. Same with Purdy.
Remember Vernon Davis. he was gonna be the next great cant miss TE. How about Pitts in Atlanta. They still try to hype him up. Already mentioned Hockenson. What's worse. Almost all these guys were early (1st half) of the 1st round to boot. An All pro TE is nice to have. No one would deny this. Wasting a 1st round pick to try & build around a TE is not good football. Build your all pro TE. (in later rounds) For every Tony Gonzalez (might be one of the only real successful 1st rounders) there is a ton of oops TEs in the 1st. All I can think of off hand is him & Olsen & Olsen ended up making his name for a different team.

What makes (to me) a 1st round long term investment.
Linemen, RB, QB, WR (although restocking WR isnt as hard as other positions in draft) Just about any defensive position.
What I never want to see in the 1st round.
Any special team player
TE
FB

I know I wont change anyone's mind that likes trying for that fabled great 1st rd. TE. & I absolutely wont be changing my mind on how much I will hate the pick in the 1st round.
So we are just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

Yeah we will, and that's what boards are for. And I'm only taking Warren if we are sitting at 15 and the 12-13 guys I like more than him are gone.
Every year, 32 players are taken in round one, but the scouts only give 17-18 kids actual "1st round grades". So many players picked in the first round are actually 2nd round talents(this was the case with both Mazi and Guyton). So where I do disagree with your never TE concept, is if the best player in my board is Bowers or LaPorta, and I am in need of a DT or DE, I'm not forcing a Mazi Smith or Taco Charlton over a player that I know is going to be good for me. Just me my friend, I respect your opinion

 

[UK Cowboy]

witten was a 3rd round pick.

no sure things...college greatness does not equate to NFL star.

100% right. Which is why I'm pissed we gave away two 4th round picks for some kibbles and bits.
There are no sure things, which is why I would ALWAYS pick the best player on the board instead of forcing it. And I think the Cowboys are best when they do the same. They wanted a corner when Micah fell into their lap. Jerry wanted a QB when Martin fell to them. They were locked in on a scrub DE when Lamb fell to them. I think you avoid the Taco Charltons of the world by picking the best guys. Believe me, if Jeanty or Graham or a dozen other guys are there, I would pick them instead. But of the last two drafts and I could have a guy like LaPorta or Bowers over Mazi or Guyton, if have done that in a blink