2024 NFL Draft: The Wide Receiver Class

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

While it's virtually imposserous for him to fall to #9, I'm now wondering if he remains a lock to be the first WR taken off the board, especially in lieu of the decision to skip his pro day:

Marvin Harrison Jr. will not work out at Ohio State Pro Day

Ohio State's Pro Day is today, but Ohio State's best prospect won't work out.

sports.yahoo.com

It's one thing skipping the combine, but to skip both? Hmmm........

Red flag alert. Sounds like an entitled mentality. MHJ is either getting bad advice or coming across as incredibly arrogant.

Could he fall in the draft? He could, but when I use the word "fall", I mean go from a top 5 to a top 10 pick. No way he's scaring away many teams. But I do have to throw a red flag alert on him. There's a possibility that Nabers or Odunze goes ahead of Harrison, but I call it unlikely.

 

[shopson67]

He'll be the first non QB off the board. That said, I do think Arizona would entertain trade down offers to a team like the Vikings if they got a major haul.

Those two first round picks would work per the chart, but since it's for a QB and costing the Cards MH3 (if he gets past the Pats), it could take more.

 

[shopson67]

Red flag alert. Sounds like an entitled mentality. MHJ is either getting bad advice or coming across as incredibly arrogant.

Could he fall in the draft? He could, but when I use the word "fall", I mean go from a top 5 to a top 10 pick. No way he's scaring away many teams. But I do have to throw a red flag alert on him. There's a possibility that Nabers or Odunze goes ahead of Harrison, but I call it unlikely.

I don't see it that way at all. Guys that are locked in to a ranking don't benefit from a public work out.

 

[Clayton]

PFF WR Rankings.

"WR 4-15 are pretty close to interchangable. Its a really good class"

1. Marvin Harrison Jr
1a. Malik Nabers
3. Rome Odunze

Mentioned Brian Thomas Jr being only 9th on the PFF model. Jermaine Burton high on their board but most likely off most teams boards in the NFL. They think Troy Franklin and Devontez Walker are in the mix.

 

[shopson67]

PFF WR Rankings.

"WR 4-15 are pretty close to interchangable. Its a really good class"

1. Marvin Harrison Jr
1a. Malik Nabers
3. Rome Odunze

Mentioned Brian Thomas Jr being only 9th on the PFF model. Jermaine Burton high on their board but most likely off most teams boards in the NFL. They think Troy Franklin and Devontez Walker are in the mix.

Whose rankings are those? PFF's Trevor Sikkema has BTJ 4th, which is also reflected in their big board?

 

[Clayton]

Whose rankings are those? PFF's Trevor Sikkema has BTJ 4th, which is also reflected in their big board?

The old guys. Steve Palazzo and Sam Monson

 

[shopson67]

The old guys. Steve Palazzo and Sam Monson

I don't pay for PFF, but the free stuff on their website comes up with Trevor's rankings. Interesting.

 

[Clayton]

I don't pay for PFF, but the free stuff on their website comes up with Trevor's rankings. Interesting.

Yeah, even Trevor iirc commonly mocks Thomas to the Bills. Chris Simms tiers would suggest he is a top 6 pick.

 

[shopson67]

Yeah, even Trevor iirc commonly mocks Thomas to the Bills. Chris Simms tiers would suggest he is a top 6 pick.

If the Cards do trade with the Vikings, I could see him with one of those picks ahead of the Bills. Bills might not go WR with their additions (and bigger needs elsewhere), but it all depends on who falls. I think Cooper Dejean is a perfect fit for them, whether at CB or S.

 

[shopson67]

The old guys. Steve Palazzo and Sam Monson

Ahh, they posted their WR rankings on YouTube....

 

[Clayton]

Ahh, they posted their WR rankings on YouTube....

They're all over the place but the best I can get of their rankings is:

Steve:

#4 Jermaine Burton (ignoring character concerns)
#5 AD Mitchell
#6 Roman Wilson
#6a Troy Franklin
#8 Ladd McConkey
#9 Brian Thomas
#10 Xavier Worthy

Sam:

#4 Troy Franklin
#5 Keon Coleman
#6 AD Mitchell (great player who has to 'work hard' to win)
#7 Jermaine Burton
#8 Xavier Legette
#9 Devontez Walker
#10 Xavier Worthy

Sam thinks McConkey gets knocked off his route easily which would push him in the slot.

 

[shopson67]

They're all over the place but the best I can get of their rankings is:

Steve:

#4 Jermaine Burton (ignoring character concerns)
#5 AD Mitchell
#6 Roman Wilson
#6a Troy Franklin
#8 Ladd McConkey
#9 Brian Thomas
#10 Xavier Worthy

Sam:

#4 Troy Franklin
#5 Keon Coleman
#6 AD Mitchell (great player who has to 'work hard' to win)
#7 Jermaine Burton
#8 Xavier Legette
#9 Devontez Walker
#10 Xavier Worthy

Sam thinks McConkey gets knocked off his route easily which would push him in the slot.

Sounds about right, watched it as well. They go deeper in part 2.

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

I don't see it that way at all. Guys that are locked in to a ranking don't benefit from a public work out.

Name me an NFL prospect who skipped both the combine and their Pro Day by CHOICE.

 

[PDay8810]

Name me an NFL prospect who skipped both the combine and their Pro Day by CHOICE.

so..do not draft?

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

so..do not draft?

Never said that. I am weary of these diva types who feel they are above the process. Any team that drafts him, might get a headache afterwards. I cannot think of a single prospect who skipped their Pro Day on purpose.

 

[PDay8810]

Never said that. I am weary of these diva types who feel they are above the process. Any team that drafts him, might get a headache afterwards. I cannot think of a single prospect who skipped their Pro Day on purpose.

but the only thing that matters is he all that. I'm thinking football folks think he is and will be.

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

but the only thing that matters is he all that. I'm thinking football folks think he is and will be.

The man has produced 0 yards, 0 touchdowns in the NFL currently. Just because he did well in college and has a famous pops, doesn't mean he'll be great in the NFL. Entitlement mentality creates laziness and diva personality. I would be hesitant to draft him in the top 10. Just saying, it is an obvious red flag.

 

[PDay8810]

The man has produced 0 yards, 0 touchdowns in the NFL currently. Just because he did well in college and has a famous pops, doesn't mean he'll be great in the NFL. Entitlement mentality creates laziness and diva personality. I would be hesitant to draft him in the top 10. Just saying, it is an obvious red flag.

see post #156

 

[HaroldSeattle]

The man has produced 0 yards, 0 touchdowns in the NFL currently. Just because he did well in college and has a famous pops, doesn't mean he'll be great in the NFL. Entitlement mentality creates laziness and diva personality. I would be hesitant to draft him in the top 10. Just saying, it is an obvious red flag.

I understand the feeling, but he was at the combine last year and guess he feels Nabors and Rome won't be drafted ahead of him barring something happening like having a off day at his pro day so....he's skipping all of it. I won't mind seeing him drop just a wee bit just for going this route but don't think it will happen. In fact the confidence probably cements his status as #1 WR this class, nobody wants to be known as the team who passed on him because he skipped the testing.

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

I understand the feeling, but he was at the combine last year and guess he feels Nabors and Rome won't be drafted ahead of him barring something happening like having a off day at his pro day so....he's skipping all of it. I won't mind seeing him drop just a wee bit just for going this route but don't think it will happen. In fact the confidence probably cements his status as #1 WR this class, nobody wants to be known as the team who passed on him because he skipped the testing.

How many prospects intentionally skips their pro day? Nobody wants to answer that question.

There are lots and lots of quality WR prospects out there. Harrison isn't guaranteed to be the best one. Nobody wants to draft a prospect that will be a diva and that puts their own ego above the team. I am not saying he's going to be a bust, but it's a terrible sign that he will refuses to attend the combine and pro day. Caleb Williams is going #1, yet he still showed up and cheered on his USC teammates.

I just think it is a terrible sign. We're not talking about "testing" here. We're talking about showing up to both compete and show moral support for your teammates. It shows you care about more than yourself. Do not be shocked he doesn't go #4. Nabers or Odunze could very well go above him.