2024 Free agency and draft thread

[Darrell Green Fan]

don't really care what you appreciate as you are increibly irrational and emotional on the subject.

Are massage therapists whores? Nope. Legit profession. But not likely these women are the type you are talking about.....never mind you ignore many of the "victims" were so distraught they contacted the accused to try and see him again.

I edited my post to enlighten you Skippy.

There are message parlors where people like Robert Kraft go for a rub and tug. Then there are message therapist offices where people go for treatment. The establishments Watson and Tucker went to are message therapist offices. I suggest you learn the difference and stop posting like an ignorant idiot.

 

[dtgold88]

I edited my post to enlighten you Skippy.

There are message parlors where people like Robert Kraft go for a rub and tug. Then there are message therapist offices where people go for treatment. The establishments Watson and Tucker went to are message therapist offices. I suggest you learn the difference and stop posting like an ignorant idiot.

There is the difference you mention but you really think all these "victims" were in the type of environment you describe? May I suggest you continue this discussion by practicing what you preach, Agenda Boy.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

@dtgold88 and @Darrell Green Fan goin at it!

Sadly the Browns and Commandoskins don't face each other this year

 

[DJ Fieri]

@dtgold88 and @Darrell Green Fan goin at it!

Sadly the Browns and Commandoskins don't face each other this year

 

[dtgold88]

@dtgold88 and @Darrell Green Fan goin at it!

Sadly the Browns and Commandoskins don't face each other this year

Haha....all in good fun (at least for me). Sports - and especially SportsHoopla - would be boring if we all agreed.

Not a fan of agendas and facts being ignored but whatever.

Oh and not at all sad don't face Commanders.....despite a late comeback to make it someone close they kicked our asses last year if memory serves.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Haha....all in good fun (at least for me). Sports - and especially SportsHoopla - would be boring if we all agreed.

Not a fan of agendas and facts being ignored but whatever.

Oh and not at all sad don't face Commanders.....despite a late comeback to make it someone close they kicked our asses last year if memory serves.

All in good fun, eh?

I mean I didn't want to say anything, but @Darrell Green Fan called you and I quote: "A Browns fan? More like an unwanted brown stain in your pants!" a week or so ago...

 

[dtgold88]

All in good fun, eh?

I mean I didn't want to say anything, but @Darrell Green Fan called you and I quote: "A Browns fan? More like an unwanted brown stain in your pants!" a week or so ago...

Missed it....but guessing as a Browns fan I've heard worse (likely thought worse about us at times).

 

[Schmoopy1000]

All in good fun, eh?

I mean I didn't want to say anything, but @Darrell Green Fan called you and I quote: "A Browns fan? More like an unwanted brown stain in your pants!" a week or so ago...

I got the cat.
Those are some shady motherfuckers!

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

There is the difference you mention but you really think all these "victims" were in the type of environment you describe? May I suggest you continue this discussion by practicing what you preach, Agenda Boy.

As this is somewhat of a local story I do know that yes these establishments for Tucker were just as I had described them. I'm actually familiar with some of the spas that banned him. I'm pretty convinced this was the case with Watson as well. Just because someone comes to your house to give you a session that does not mean they are a prosititue. Again would you expose yourself to a physical therapist? Answer the question please.

I'm saddened that this needed to be explained to you. I honestly did not know ignorance on this is so mainstream. I have no idea what the practice what you preach comment is supposed to mean, probably best that way.

And I never had an agenda, unless believing in right and wrong is an agenda. And I never ignored the facts, I acknowledged some of these women may have lied.

 

[dtgold88]

As this is somewhat of a local story I do know that yes these establishments for Tucker were just as I had described them. I'm actually familiar with some of the spas that banned him. I'm pretty convinced this was the case with Watson as well. Just because someone comes to your house to give you a session that does not mean they are a prosititue. Again would you expose yourself to a physical therapist? Answer the question please.

I'm saddened that this needed to be explained to you. I honestly did not know ignorance on this is so mainstream. I have no idea what the practice what you preach comment is supposed to mean, probably best that way.

And I never had an agenda, unless believing in right and wrong is an agenda. And I never ignored the facts, I acknowledged some of these women may have lied.

Hello? I told you I have not followed the Tucker case much at all and asked about the details of it. asked IF like the Watson situation. IF he is in establishments like you suggest it makes things a little different, but, no, does not seem like Watson was seeing therapists like you describe. You think professional therapists would go through what many of these "victims" did then text watson to see him again?

Not really sure why you'd be saddened I was not closely following the Tucker case......as for the Watson case no sadness seems required as you have a clear agenda and are not just ignoring facts it seems you are making up a narrative to support your agenda.

You do have an agenda and that's cool. Just have a little more self awareness.

 

[Xeliou66]

Niners release 2022 second round pick Drake Jackson. He has been a total bust pretty much.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Hello? I told you I have not followed the Tucker case much at all and asked about the details of it. asked IF like the Watson situation. IF he is in establishments like you suggest it makes things a little different, but, no, does not seem like Watson was seeing therapists like you describe. You think professional therapists would go through what many of these "victims" did then text watson to see him again?

Not really sure why you'd be saddened I was not closely following the Tucker case......as for the Watson case no sadness seems required as you have a clear agenda and are not just ignoring facts it seems you are making up a narrative to support your agenda.

You do have an agenda and that's cool. Just have a little more self awareness.

I never had an agenda and not sure why you keep saying this. I never cared one bit about D Watson until these stories surfaced. Stories that clearly have validity. Again you are basing your entire argument on how some woman lied and reached out to him again. I have acknowledged that some have lied but we both agree not all of them were lying

That can only mean one thing. He was guilty of assaulting some of these message therapists. Seeing as he plays for your team it's not hard to see which one of us has an agenda. It's also equally obvious that you do not know a fucking thing about the message therapy industry so it's probably best you stop commenting on something you know nothing about.

 

[dtgold88]

I never had an agenda and not sure why you keep saying this. I never cared one bit about D Watson until these stories surfaced. Stories that clearly have validity. Again you are basing your entire argument on how some woman lied and reached out to him again. I have acknowledged that some have lied but we both agree not all of them were lying

That can only mean one thing. He was guilty of assaulting some of these message therapists. Seeing as he plays for your team it's not hard to see which one of us has an agenda. It's also equally obvious that you do not know a fucking thing about the message therapy industry so it's probably best you stop commenting on something you know nothing about.

It wasn't just one woman....multiple women clearly lied and tried to contact him to see him again. Did they all lie? My guess is if they accused him of criminal behavior, yes, they lied. something inappropriate like asking for a happy ending? On that my answer/guess is that probably happened.

Has nothing to do with the team I cheer for has to do with only caring about the actual facts of the case of which there are little to none to support the accusers. Does it mean they lied? Again....no. If he did what he was accused of that was criminal behavior? Lock him up as long as allowed. But couldn't even get an indictment.

as to the massage therapy industry I have tried it for neck and back issues so sorry to disappoint ya I know about it....as well as the PT business. You are just assuming all these women are the type of massage therapists you describe when it's highly doubtful these professionals would be propositioning their "clients" by text to come see them again.

Maybe best if you'd get some self awareness, drop the agenda and discuss this like an adult?

 

[Battlelyon]

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

It wasn't just one woman....multiple women clearly lied and tried to contact him to see him again. Did they all lie? My guess is if they accused him of criminal behavior, yes, they lied. something inappropriate like asking for a happy ending? On that my answer/guess is that probably happened.

Has nothing to do with the team I cheer for has to do with only caring about the actual facts of the case of which there are little to none to support the accusers. Does it mean they lied? Again....no. If he did what he was accused of that was criminal behavior? Lock him up as long as allowed. But couldn't even get an indictment.

as to the massage therapy industry I have tried it for neck and back issues so sorry to disappoint ya I know about it....as well as the PT business. You are just assuming all these women are the type of massage therapists you describe when it's highly doubtful these professionals would be propositioning their "clients" by text to come see them again.

Maybe best if you'd get some self awareness, drop the agenda and discuss this like an adult?

I give up, what is my agenda? As I said I used to pull for the Browns and was completely agnostic about my feelings about Deshaun Watson until these stories surfaced.

Look we both agree that some of these woman probably lied but some were telling the truth. You said so yourself. So let's try to focus on the woman who did not lie as they really are the only woman important to the discusson right?

They could not get an indictment because there was no proof, I doubt they allow cameras where the work is done and Watson certainly would not record the incident. That hardly means he did nothing wrong.

As for text message it's as if you are totally unaware the people in business actually do solicate their business to repeat clients. My dog groomer just sent me a message to see if I needed her help again. That does not mean these therapists are whores, what an idiotic claim to make.

You said you have received treatment. Any urge what so ever to pull out a hard dick? Did you assume your therapist was a prostitute? It goes without saying that being a patient does not mean you know anything about the industry.

 

[Xeliou66]

I wasn’t a fan of that pick when it was made, this guy never produced in college at all, didn’t even have 5 career sacks - how the hell did he go so high? Seems like he has bust written all over him.

 

[dtgold88]

I give up, what is my agenda? As I said I used to pull for the Browns and was completely agnostic about my feelings about Deshaun Watson until these stories surfaced.

Look we both agree that some of these woman probably lied but some were telling the truth. You said so yourself. So let's try to focus on the woman who did not lie as they really are the only woman important to the discusson right?

As for text message asking for business it's as if you are totally unaware the people in business actually do solicate their business to repeat clients. My dog groomer just sent me a message to see if I needed her help again. That does not mean these therapists are whores.

You said you have received treatment. Any urge what so ever to pull out a hard dick? Did you assume your therapist was a prostitute? It goes without saying that being a patient does not mean you know anything about the industry.

Your agenda is to believe anything in the case that is against Watson and ignore the facts that support the idea maybe these women lied. Is it pro Browns or pro not allowed to consider a woman might lie? If I had to guess it's the latter.

Your last comments kind of make my case as you also assume these "therapists" are the type you have dealt with in the past. You know, there can be something between massage therapist and whore? Or maybe....just maybe......they were in it for the money grab which they ultimately took?
Were any of these therapists held against their will? any not free to leave? Odd to cry r*pe under those circumstances, no? courts seemed to think so.

Curious.....how long did you know about the Duke Lacrosse case where you assumed they were guilty, too?

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Your agenda is to believe anything in the case that is against Watson and ignore the facts that support the idea maybe these women lied. Is it pro Browns or pro not allowed to consider a woman might lie? If I had to guess it's the latter.

Your last comments kind of make my case as you also assume these "therapists" are the type you have dealt with in the past. You know, there can be something between massage therapist and whore? Or maybe....just maybe......they were in it for the money grab which they ultimately took?
Were any of these therapists held against their will? any not free to leave? Odd to cry r*pe under those circumstances, no? courts seemed to think so.

Curious.....how long did you know about the Duke Lacrosse case where you assumed they were guilty, too?

I actually took a wait and see approach with the Duke Lacrosse situation, which was hard for a Maryland guy. But I am curious on your position. You have said repeatedly that not all of them lied. So that means some of the accusors were telling the truth. So why are you so focused on proving some lied when we both agree on that?

And more importantly why are you ignoring the woman who you have admitted probably were not lying as those are the only women who are important to the discussion?

 

[PDay8810]

and to think...you guys point fingers at others.

sea of homers

 

[DJ Fieri]

All in good fun, eh?

I mean I didn't want to say anything, but @Darrell Green Fan called you and I quote: "A Browns fan? More like an unwanted brown stain in your pants!" a week or so ago...