2024 Free agency and draft thread

[Battlelyon]

If ever a guy deserved a slice of Humble Pie...

Good job Jets

 

[Battlelyon]

Browns should 100% take Carter. That's an easy decision.

Drafting a 3rd round worthy QB or a Ohtani type WR/CB dork that is going to be on IR his first year is beyond fail.

Hunter is the only choice for the Browns. Andrew Berry can't fuck this up.

 

[jarntt]

Browns should 100% take Carter. That's an easy decision.

Drafting a 3rd round worthy QB or a Ohtani type WR/CB dork that is going to be on IR his first year is beyond fail.

Hunter is the only choice for the Browns. Andrew Berry can't fuck this up.

Either one. By far the two best players in the draft IMO and both would really help Cle. Ward only likely to go before one or both because of position.

 

[shopson67]

I'd give up a day 3 pick for him assuming that means let's say a 6th and not a 4th

Are they really ready to rely on Carter Bradley as their backup? Or are they targeting a QB in the draft despite extending Geno?

 

[jarntt]

Are they really ready to rely on Carter Bradley as their backup? Or are they targeting a QB in the draft despite extending Geno?

Could be. Probably a few QBs that might go early that aren't seen as year 1 starters

Geno 2026 cap hit: $26.5M
2026 post 6/1 cut cap hit: $18.5M; save $8M
2026 cap hit if traded: $0; save $26.5M

 

[Xeliou66]

Are they really ready to rely on Carter Bradley as their backup? Or are they targeting a QB in the draft despite extending Geno?

I could definitely see the Raiders drafting a QB in a later round in this draft to be Geno’s backup. That’s probably what will happen, no way they go QB in the first round but they’ll likely take one at some point.

 

[Clayton]

I could definitely see the Raiders drafting a QB in a later round in this draft to be Geno’s backup. That’s probably what will happen, no way they go QB in the first round but they’ll likely take one at some point.

I could see the Raiders going after Riley Leonard or Kyle McCord and just sitting them for 2 years. I dont think the Raiders go QB in rd1 or rd2, though.

 

[Xeliou66]

I could see the Raiders going after Riley Leonard or Kyle McCord and just sitting them for 2 years. I dont think the Raiders go QB in rd1 or rd2, though.

Yeah it will depend on who’s available after the first couple of rounds - I don’t see them going QB in the first 2 rounds either. McCord is an interesting prospect, I think he led CFB in passing yards last season, he’s somewhat turnover prone and streaky but he has potential. I was never impressed with Leonard in college and doubt he does anything in the NFL.

 

[The Q]

Yeah it will depend on who’s available after the first couple of rounds - I don’t see them going QB in the first 2 rounds either. McCord is an interesting prospect, I think he led CFB in passing yards last season, he’s somewhat turnover prone and streaky but he has potential. I was never impressed with Leonard in college and doubt he does anything in the NFL.

I’m not even sure that’s true

Almost half his picks came in a single game

Very fluky

 

[fastforward]

If ever a guy deserved a slice of Humble Pie...

It's crappy behaviour by the Jets, and it deserves to be highlighted by Rodgers. The video clip doesn't give the timeline of when this occurred. Presumably it was January/February because the Jets announced they were moving on pretty early.

The Jets aren't the 1st team to do this. The Rams crapped on Chris Long when he was leaving the team in 2016. Everyone knew Long wouldn't be retained on his contract after missing most of the previous 2 seasons. However, the Rams made him move to Los Angeles and do some publicity work knowing that he was later going to be released. They didn't tell him about the release beforehand and he found out about it on the radio.

 

[Battlelyon]

It's crappy behaviour by the Jets, and it deserves to be highlighted by Rodgers. The video clip doesn't give the timeline of when this occurred. Presumably it was January/February because the Jets announced they were moving on pretty early.

The Jets aren't the 1st team to do this. The Rams crapped on Chris Long when he was leaving the team in 2016. Everyone knew Long wouldn't be retained on his contract after missing most of the previous 2 seasons. However, the Rams made him move to Los Angeles and do some publicity work knowing that he was later going to be released. They didn't tell him about the release beforehand and he found out about it on the radio.

Yeah, now thankfully McVay does good by players

 

[Clayton]

Cris Collinsworth mock

1. Titans - Ward QB
2. Browns - Hunter WR
3. Giants - Carter Edge
4. Patriots - Membou OT
5. Bears* - Jeanty RB
6. Raiders - J Barron CB
7. Jets - Graham DT
8. Panthers - T McMillan WR
9. Saints - Sanders QB
10. Jags* - Nolen DT
11. Niners - J Campbell Edge
12. Cowboys - W Campbell OL
13. Dolphins - J Simmons OT
14. Colts - Warren TE
15. Falcons - Burden WR
16. Cards - W Johnson CB
17. Bengals - J Walker Edge
18. Seahawks - S Stewart Edge
19. Bucs - M Starks S
20. Broncos - M Golden WR
21. Steelers - Milroe QB
22. Chargers - C Loveland TE
23. Packers - D Ezeiruaku Edge
24. Vikings - K Grant DT
25. Texans - Egbuka WR
26. Rams - Banks OL
27. Ravens - Myk Williams Edge
28. Lions - Zabel OL
29. Commanders - M Green Edge
30. Bills - J Pearce Edge
31. Chiefs - Ersery OL
32. Eagles - Emmanwori S

Thinks Warren and Loveland order could go either way. Barron seems crazy high to me. Milroe firmly rd1

 

[Xeliou66]

Cris Collinsworth mock

1. Titans - Ward QB
2. Browns - Hunter WR
3. Giants - Carter Edge
4. Patriots - Membou OT
5. Bears* - Jeanty RB
6. Raiders - J Barron CB
7. Jets - Graham DT
8. Panthers - T McMillan WR
9. Saints - Sanders QB
10. Jags* - Nolen DT
11. Niners - J Campbell Edge
12. Cowboys - W Campbell OL
13. Dolphins - J Simmons OT
14. Colts - Warren TE
15. Falcons - Burden WR
16. Cards - W Johnson CB
17. Bengals - J Walker Edge
18. Seahawks - S Stewart Edge
19. Bucs - M Starks S
20. Broncos - M Golden WR
21. Steelers - Milroe QB
22. Chargers - C Loveland TE
23. Packers - D Ezeiruaku Edge
24. Vikings - K Grant DT
25. Texans - Egbuka WR
26. Rams - Banks OL
27. Ravens - Myk Williams Edge
28. Lions - Zabel OL
29. Commanders - M Green Edge
30. Bills - J Pearce Edge
31. Chiefs - Ersery OL
32. Eagles - Emmanwori S

Thinks Warren and Loveland order could go either way. Barron seems crazy high to me. Milroe firmly rd1

LOL this dumbass has the Falcons taking a receiver? No way do we not go D in round 1, we have multiple areas of need on D while we are strong at receiver, no way do we go offense with the first round pick for a 5th year in a row, that’s a laughable prediction. That alone makes this one of the most idiotic predictions I’ve seen, not to mention most people don’t even have Burden going in round 1. Barron and Nolan seem way too high. The Dolphins are definitely going to take a corner IMO with Ramsey likely gone and depth already very thin, so I bet either Barron or Will Johnson goes to the Fins, corner is a bigger need than O-Line now. The Vikings don’t need another D-Lineman, they need DB particularly safety way more. And if Milroe goes in round 1 that will be one of the dumbest picks ever. Overall this is a pretty lousy mock draft.

 

[Clayton]

LOL this dumbass has the Falcons taking a receiver? No way do we not go D in round 1, we have multiple areas of need on D while we are strong at receiver, no way do we go offense with the first round pick for a 5th year in a row, that’s a laughable prediction. That alone makes this one of the most idiotic predictions I’ve seen, not to mention most people don’t even have Burden going in round 1. Barron and Nolan seem way too high. The Dolphins are definitely going to take a corner IMO with Ramsey likely gone and depth already very thin, so I bet either Barron or Will Johnson goes to the Fins, corner is a bigger need than O-Line now. The Vikings don’t need another D-Lineman, they need DB particularly safety way more. And if Milroe goes in round 1 that will be one of the dumbest picks ever. Overall this is a pretty lousy mock draft.

I think the only thing I disagree with here is that the Dolphins could probably upgrade 2 spots on OL. Kinda similar to the Jags Dline, though, in that they do have young players in place and CB seems like an obvious need.

I personally do think Burden should go between 20 and 31 but Im fairly biased.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

Cris Collinsworth mock

1. Titans - Ward QB
2. Browns - Hunter WR
3. Giants - Carter Edge
4. Patriots - Membou OT
5. Bears* - Jeanty RB
6. Raiders - J Barron CB
7. Jets - Graham DT
8. Panthers - T McMillan WR
9. Saints - Sanders QB
10. Jags* - Nolen DT
11. Niners - J Campbell Edge
12. Cowboys - W Campbell OL
13. Dolphins - J Simmons OT
14. Colts - Warren TE
15. Falcons - Burden WR
16. Cards - W Johnson CB
17. Bengals - J Walker Edge
18. Seahawks - S Stewart Edge
19. Bucs - M Starks S
20. Broncos - M Golden WR
21. Steelers - Milroe QB
22. Chargers - C Loveland TE
23. Packers - D Ezeiruaku Edge
24. Vikings - K Grant DT
25. Texans - Egbuka WR
26. Rams - Banks OL
27. Ravens - Myk Williams Edge
28. Lions - Zabel OL
29. Commanders - M Green Edge
30. Bills - J Pearce Edge
31. Chiefs - Ersery OL
32. Eagles - Emmanwori S

Thinks Warren and Loveland order could go either way. Barron seems crazy high to me. Milroe firmly rd1

As a Bears fan, I can't rule out them trading up to get Jeanty, but it would be costly in terms of draft capital. I'm hoping they either stay put at 10 or if they find a willing partner, to trade back.

 

[Xeliou66]

I think the only thing I disagree with here is that the Dolphins could probably upgrade 2 spots on OL. Kinda similar to the Jags Dline, though, in that they do have young players in place and CB seems like an obvious need.

I personally do think Burden should go between 20 and 31 but Im fairly biased.

Burden is no doubt a very good receiver and a possible round 1 pick but most mocks I’ve seen don’t have him going in the first. He might go to a team like the Rams or Texans though. But saying the Falcons will take a receiver is one of the stupidest takes I’ve seen, it shows he knows nothing about the Falcons and what our needs are, we are definitely going D, edge rush or corner.
If Ramsey is gone then the Fins almost have to take a corner, because depth is already very thin there and without Ramsey they’re looking at the worst secondary in the NFL probably. O-Line is a concern for the Fins as well but I don’t see them passing on Johnson/Barron at 13.
Also the Eagles will probably either go O-Line or edge rush, I don’t see them taking a DB at 32. And like I say the Vikings really need a safety and the Bills could use secondary help as well so I doubt Emmanwori makes it to 32.
It boggles the mind sometimes how so called “experts” can say such dumb shit and get paid to do it.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Cris Collinsworth mock

1. Titans - Ward QB
2. Browns - Hunter WR
3. Giants - Carter Edge
4. Patriots - Membou OT
5. Bears* - Jeanty RB
6. Raiders - J Barron CB
7. Jets - Graham DT
8. Panthers - T McMillan WR
9. Saints - Sanders QB
10. Jags* - Nolen DT
11. Niners - J Campbell Edge
12. Cowboys - W Campbell OL
13. Dolphins - J Simmons OT
14. Colts - Warren TE
15. Falcons - Burden WR
16. Cards - W Johnson CB
17. Bengals - J Walker Edge
18. Seahawks - S Stewart Edge
19. Bucs - M Starks S
20. Broncos - M Golden WR
21. Steelers - Milroe QB
22. Chargers - C Loveland TE
23. Packers - D Ezeiruaku Edge
24. Vikings - K Grant DT
25. Texans - Egbuka WR
26. Rams - Banks OL
27. Ravens - Myk Williams Edge
28. Lions - Zabel OL
29. Commanders - M Green Edge
30. Bills - J Pearce Edge
31. Chiefs - Ersery OL
32. Eagles - Emmanwori S

Thinks Warren and Loveland order could go either way. Barron seems crazy high to me. Milroe firmly rd1

Does Collinsworth have any pedigree with this stuff I don’t know about? Guy doesn’t really cover any college ball.

 

[Clayton]

Burden is no doubt a very good receiver and a possible round 1 pick but most mocks I’ve seen don’t have him going in the first. He might go to a team like the Rams or Texans though. But saying the Falcons will take a receiver is one of the stupidest takes I’ve seen, it shows he knows nothing about the Falcons and what our needs are, we are definitely going D, edge rush or corner.
If Ramsey is gone then the Fins almost have to take a corner, because depth is already very thin there and without Ramsey they’re looking at the worst secondary in the NFL probably. O-Line is a concern for the Fins as well but I don’t see them passing on Johnson/Barron at 13.
Also the Eagles will probably either go O-Line or edge rush, I don’t see them taking a DB at 32. And like I say the Vikings really need a safety and the Bills could use secondary help as well so I doubt Emmanwori makes it to 32.
It boggles the mind sometimes how so called “experts” can say such dumb shit and get paid to do it.

Mock drafts with an actual expert are rare. The only one I can think of is when Thomas Dimitrov and Eric Eager did a yearly mock with 'the Franchise Guy' a couple of times. Eager is possibly the nerdiest person PFF has ever had and Dimitrov is an actual expert as you know.

 

[Xeliou66]

Mock drafts with an actual expert are rare. The only one I can think of is when Thomas Dimitrov and Eric Eager did a yearly mock with 'the Franchise Guy' a couple of times. Eager is possibly the nerdiest person PFF has ever had and Dimitrov is an actual expert as you know.

Yeah and no one knows for sure how the draft will turn out, there’s a lot of guessing, but sometimes people have epically dumb takes.

 

[Clayton]

Yeah and no one knows for sure how the draft will turn out, there’s a lot of guessing, but sometimes people have epically dumb takes.

I'm looking through last year's draft and Dimitrov actually said that the Falcons should 'do the GB thing and get a QB' while everyone else was on Dallas Turner.

GMs think differently

Dimitrov also took Worthy with the Chiefs and loved Jayden Daniels