2024 Free agency and draft thread

[Clayton]

I could see him too, but Membou seems like a solid power player to add to that mix. I don't know that I would risk waiting until the second.

I alot of this draft will come down to where you see these OL players playing. Membou I think is probably a RT at the next level. So that could be the fit for the Raiders. I have him pegged in the 10-15 range but he could certainly go higher.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I mean the guy was pretty damn good with Winston playing QB so would think on a good team with a good or really good QB yes, he could be a #1.

Jeudy looked damn good with not much around him. I would like them to bring in a 1b. They need more at WR without a doubt

 

[shopson67]

I alot of this draft will come down to where you see these OL players playing. Membou I think is probably a RT at the next level. So that could be the fit for the Raiders. I have him pegged in the 10-15 range but he could certainly go higher.

Campbell probably has to move inside due to his measurements. A lot of these OTs may need to. Finding the one that will hold up outside AND play at a high level is tough. I would worry about waiting too long if you need one this season.

As for their existing OL, I haven't seen where they were very well ranked, but admittedly I watched as little of Vegas as possible last season.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Oh absolutely. Trade Garrett while you can get 2 1sts for him... Thanks to the dumbest signing in NFL history, Watson is going to consume all their cap the next 2 years... (they're literally STUCK with him this year, where his cap hit is $36M and then the dead cap next year will be $80M with a post June cut - very similar to what the Broncos did with Wilson). His cap hit next year is like $70M anyway, so he's 100% for sure gone in 2026.

The Browns wont be competitive in the next 2 years... you just can't do much with that kind of cap hell. So draft some pieces, the Browns by all account should suck so 2026 you can take your QB just like the Broncos did with Nix, and go for it.

Shark you jackass... The Browns resigned Garrett to a 4 year $160M contract. Get your head out of your ass.

 

[dtgold88]

I don't have a Browns agenda lol. I see they have issues, I say they have issues.

I agree that they should be rebuilding at this point, not paying $40M to a DE throughout his early 30s. I don't see how this ends well.

I mean, maybe, but while 3-14 with 3 QBs happened not far removed from 11-6 with 4 QBs (and most of their top players still here from that team).

IF they can find a solid to even really good QB they can contend again...sure, wont be easy.

And you have a Browns agenda with me looking to rip them (which is cool...often what many do here).

 

[jarntt]

and the morons at the Cowboys sit there an watch DE after DE sign while not finalizing a deal with Micah instead of doing it last year. There are reasons teams experience the results they do

 

[Clayton]

Campbell probably has to move inside due to his measurements. A lot of these OTs may need to. Finding the one that will hold up outside AND play at a high level is tough. I would worry about waiting too long if you need one this season.

As for their existing OL, I haven't seen where they were very well ranked, but admittedly I watched as little of Vegas as possible last season.

Yeah, I think Campbell, Milum, and Banks are LG probably. Josh Simmons and Josh Connerly JR I think are LTs with Simmons being the better prospect. Booker and Ersery RG probably. Membou I think RT.

Its tricky to get an exact reading on this. Campbell might just be an LT with small arms.

 

[dtgold88]

Jeudy looked damn good with not much around him. I would like them to bring in a 1b. They need more at WR without a doubt

oh, hell yeah....even though Tillman also looked really good with Winston cannot count on him to be even a 2.

 

[shopson67]

I mean, maybe, but while 3-14 with 3 QBs happened not far removed from 11-6 with 4 QBs (and most of their top players still here from that team).

IF they can find a solid to even really good QB they can contend again...sure, wont be easy.

And you have a Browns agenda with me looking to rip them (which is cool...often what many do here).

Where do they find that QB? Clearly not from within. Not sure you can find that in this year's draft either. Pickings are slim in FA and the Browns won't be a draw without ponying up big (can they even do that now?)

 

[shopson67]

Yeah, I think Campbell, Milum, and Banks are LG probably. Josh Simmons and Josh Connerly JR I think are LTs with Simmons being the better prospect. Booker and Ersery RG probably. Membou I think RT.

Its tricky to get an exact reading on this. Campbell might just be an LT with small arms.

He would be an extreme outlier statistically if he succeeds at LT.

Is Simmons going to be ready to play?

 

[dtgold88]

Where do they find that QB? Clearly not from within. Not sure you can find that in this year's draft either. Pickings are slim in FA and the Browns won't be a draw without ponying up big (can they even do that now?)

Not sure where....but won 11 with a guy off his couch, PJ Walker and DTR winning 7 of them so thinking we can do better than that trio (and Watson).

To your Q, we do have cap room but don't think can pay big to anyone like Darnold if they wanted him. Still hoping could get Cousins on the cheap or else I'd go with Brissett and a rookie at 2. Brissett played really well for us couple seasons ago but the D was a sieve.

 

[shopson67]

Not sure where....but won 11 with a guy off his couch, PJ Walker and DTR winning 7 of them so thinking we can do better than that trio (and Watson).

To your Q, we do have cap room but don't think can pay big to anyone like Darnold if they wanted him. Still hoping could get Cousins on the cheap or else I'd go with Brissett and a rookie at 2. Brissett played really well for us couple seasons ago but the D was a sieve.

I'm still not sold on Darnold being a guy that can help elevate a team. If he falls into a situation like the loaded Vikings he can not screw it up, but I don't know that he's proven any more than that yet.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I’m reading that there is an outage on X. That’s a shitty development for legal tampering Monday.

 

[dtgold88]

I'm still not sold on Darnold being a guy that can help elevate a team. If he falls into a situation like the loaded Vikings he can not screw it up, but I don't know that he's proven any more than that yet.

I agree....might he go the way of Baker and become a legit starter? Maybe but I think decent chance it was one year wonder.

 

[shopson67]

I agree....might he go the way of Baker and become a legit starter? Maybe but I think decent chance it was one year wonder.

I think a contender that needs a replacement could work with him (or he could stay with the Vikes). Maybe that's where the Browns could look - trade for McCarthy? Or maybe Milton?

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Not sure where....but won 11 with a guy off his couch, PJ Walker and DTR winning 7 of them so thinking we can do better than that trio (and Watson).

To your Q, we do have cap room but don't think can pay big to anyone like Darnold if they wanted him. Still hoping could get Cousins on the cheap or else I'd go with Brissett and a rookie at 2. Brissett played really well for us couple seasons ago but the D was a sieve.

Brisset is a good number 2. He was awful in NE this year. Great teammate and mentor.

 

[dtgold88]

Brisset is a good number 2. He was awful in NE this year. Great teammate and mentor.

Yep I get it.....but he was really good here in stefanski's offense. Just an average D and we likely go 7-4 with him. Definitely were times could count on him for a costly late pick though.

 

[Battlelyon]

Oh absolutely. Trade Garrett while you can get 2 1sts for him... Thanks to the dumbest signing in NFL history, Watson is going to consume all their cap the next 2 years... (they're literally STUCK with him this year, where his cap hit is $36M and then the dead cap next year will be $80M with a post June cut - very similar to what the Broncos did with Wilson). His cap hit next year is like $70M anyway, so he's 100% for sure gone in 2026.

The Browns wont be competitive in the next 2 years... you just can't do much with that kind of cap hell. So draft some pieces, the Browns by all account should suck so 2026 you can take your QB just like the Broncos did with Nix, and go for it.

Not even Garrett is getting two 1sts

 

[Battlelyon]

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I think a contender that needs a replacement could work with him (or he could stay with the Vikes). Maybe that's where the Browns could look - trade for McCarthy? Or maybe Milton?

Milton could be legit. We didn't get to see enough of him this year. He's got a cannon and can run. If NE were to trade him it's going to come at a pretty big cost I would think. He's a better back up than Jacoby. This QB class is weak and there are a lot of QB hungry teams. NE holds all the cards. But they routinely get taken.