Series Thread: 2023 Western Conference Finals: 1) Nuggets vs 7) Lakers (Bubble Rematch)

[trojanfan12]

No, the offensive goal tending called on AD in the 2nd. The flagrant was D-Lo contesting (and blocking) Murray's shot in transition but getting called for a windup and grazing contact with the face. Basically, he fell hard so it had to be more, despite getting ball at the top of the play.

That was a borderline flagrant foul. There was a windup and contact above the shoulders and he didn't get the ball. But, it was a "basketball play". Technically, it was the right call based on the rule. The problem is with the rule itself. It needs to be clarified.

Like Mark Jackson said last night, "I'd hate to be a ref in today's game".

 

[redseat]

It is annoying. I think it's always been apart of the game but since the game is less physical it has just gotten worse and worse over the years. I blame the soft league.

The league has only themselves to blame... The officiating is atrocious

 

[redseat]

Watch replays of those drives. Typically hit by more than one player that a smaller shooter would be at the line for.

He gets more calls than basically anyone on the court... Now he is a superstar and that is why but still play through it and not bitch every time (again all NBA players do that)

 

[DJ Fieri]

What is there to believe in when you look at the facts?

AD has consistently shown up every other game this post season. DLo every 3 games. Bron has been trash from 3, especially in the 4th quarter.

Can’t win 4 out of 5 with those facts.

I love my team, but I’m not a homer with blinders on.

We win both in LA and it's a best of 3 series....

 

[redseat]

We win both in LA and it's a best of 3 series....

That's what I am thinking. Plus the League is having this go 7

 

[bksballer89]

What is there to believe in when you look at the facts?

AD has consistently shown up every other game this post season. DLo every 3 games. Bron has been trash from 3, especially in the 4th quarter.

Can’t win 4 out of 5 with those facts.

I love my team, but I’m not a homer with blinders on.

They haven't played a home game yet lol

Hold serve at home then you get 2 more cracks to win a game in Denver.

You have a loser mentality

 

[Wamu]

Jokic is dominating the Lakers through two games. Doubt things change because games 3 & 4 are in Los Angeles.

I don't see the Nuggets losing 4 outta 5.

 

[DJ Fieri]

That's what I am thinking. Plus the League is having this go 7

LMAO

 

[shopson67]

What is there to believe in when you look at the facts?

AD has consistently shown up every other game this post season. DLo every 3 games. Bron has been trash from 3, especially in the 4th quarter.

Can’t win 4 out of 5 with those facts.

I love my team, but I’m not a homer with blinders on.

AD has shown up much more than that of late, he just hasn't been the offensive focus. His defense is equally (if not more) important. Lakers could've had one or both of the first two games (surprisingly in the case of that first game, disappointing loss in the second). They have yet to lose at home. If this is 2-2 going to game 5 nothing has been lost. If they hold serve at home, they have to win one of 2 remaining games in Denver.

 

[shopson67]

That was a borderline flagrant foul. There was a windup and contact above the shoulders and he didn't get the ball. But, it was a "basketball play". Technically, it was the right call based on the rule. The problem is with the rule itself. It needs to be clarified.

Like Mark Jackson said last night, "I'd hate to be a ref in today's game".

Borderline at best. As the commentators also said, there is always a windup to a blocked shot. If basketball is going to be a contact sport (and it has been for decades), calling a flagrant on that play is disingenous.

 

[bksballer89]

Jokic is dominating the Lakers through two games. Doubt things change because games 3 & 4 are in Los Angeles.

I don't see the Nuggets losing 4 outta 5.

Jokic been good but he need to wake up in the 4th. Role players tend to not he good on the road. 2 points in the 4th so far this series....wont cut it in LA

 

[shopson67]

He gets more calls than basically anyone on the court... Now he is a superstar and that is why but still play through it and not bitch every time (again all NBA players do that)

Your hatred is coloring what you think you're seeing. He gets more calls simply because he is involved in more calls. He still takes more uncalled contact than most anyone in the league.

 

[bksballer89]

Borderline at best. As the commentators also said, there is always a windup to a blocked shot. If basketball is going to be a contact sport (and it has been for decades), calling a flagrant on that play is disingenous.

They called the flagrant due to the contact to face which falls under unnecessary contact. Not saying i agree with the call but that's why they made the call

 

[shopson67]

Jokic been good but he need to wake up in the 4th. Role players tend to not he good on the road. 2 points in the 4th so far this series....wont cut it in LA

He doesn't have a backup that they are willing to use (poor Thomas Bryant), so he's gassed in the 4th after minimal rest throughout the game.

 

[redseat]

Your hatred is coloring what you think you're seeing. He gets more calls simply because he is involved in more calls. He still takes more uncalled contact than most anyone in the league.

No it's really not... I don't hate LeBron but I see that he flops a lot to get calls when he really doesn't need to. Dude is a beast and can bully anyone even at 38 just take it to the rim the entire time, make the hoop and go back

 

[shopson67]

They called the flagrant due to the contact to face which falls under unnecessary contact. Not saying i agree with the call but that's why they made the call

I know, but that was sold as well. Plenty of contact to the face goes uncalled. How many times has AD been hit in his eyes this postseason?

 

[shopson67]

No it's really not... I don't hate LeBron but I see that he flops a lot to get calls when he really doesn't need to. Dude is a beast and can bully anyone even at 38 just take it to the rim the entire time, make the hoop and go back

He shouldn't have to. He should calls for the same contact as Steph Curry does. Being bigger shouldn't prevent you from getting those calls.

 

[redseat]

He shouldn't have to. He should calls for the same contact as Steph Curry does. Being bigger shouldn't prevent you from getting those calls.

That's the NBA world we live in today. But Curry gets even less contact and gets calls... This is really why I don't watch the NBA... I just can't take all that nonsense

 

[shopson67]

That's the NBA world we live in today. But Curry gets even less contact and gets calls... This is really why I don't watch the NBA... I just can't take all that nonsense

It's just like the complaints by the Steve Kerr that the Lakers were flopping on the Warriors illegal screens. If the refs would just call the illegal screens in the first place, the flopping to draw more attention to them wouldn't be necessary.

 

[bksballer89]

He doesn't have a backup that they are willing to use (poor Thomas Bryant), so he's gassed in the 4th after minimal rest throughout the game.

Its the playoffs. Minimal rest should be expected for all the top players.