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Cut bait with adams, absolutely one of the worst trades ever
 

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Cut bait with adams, absolutely one of the worst trades ever
Definitely a terrible trade if we have to grade it right now. Hopefully this is the last picks for player trade we see this FO make, at least ones involving 1st rounders.
 

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Definitely a terrible trade if we have to grade it right now. Hopefully this is the last picks for player trade we see this FO make, at least ones involving 1st rounders.
I called it terrible the day it happened.
 

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I called it terrible the day it happened.

It was a desperate move caused because they didn't resign Clowney and their pass rush was abhorrent. They pretended that Adams could change the entire defense.
 

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Happy Patty's Day all..
I love the moves so far! Limited cap but solid signs before the draft. Give me hope :suds:
 

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If it really comes down to it, I'd rather just cut Adams now and retain Neal... if we let Neal walk and retain Adams when we could save $9M on a 6/1 post cut.. I'll be a bit annoyed..

I F'd that one up... I was all for the Adams trade... woops... :L

Adams is an incredible talent, but to bust two seasons in a row for the money he's getting... bleh. If he can't start the season 100% time to move on.
 

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If it really comes down to it, I'd rather just cut Adams now and retain Neal... if we let Neal walk and retain Adams when we could save $9M on a 6/1 post cut.. I'll be a bit annoyed..

I F'd that one up... I was all for the Adams trade... woops... :L

Adams is an incredible talent, but to bust two seasons in a row for the money he's getting... bleh. If he can't start the season 100% time to move on.
Waiting for a 6/1 cut on Adams won't be in the way of them signing Neal. They can go over the cap this time of year, so holding Adams for a 6/1 cut won't factor in on their ability to sign Neal now.

Also, it's a small point, but they'll save less than $8.5 million on a post June 1. IF they cut him now, they actually lose nearly $5.5 million.
 

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Waiting for a 6/1 cut on Adams won't be in the way of them signing Neal. They can go over the cap this time of year, so holding Adams for a 6/1 cut won't factor in on their ability to sign Neal now.

Also, it's a small point, but they'll save less than $8.5 million on a post June 1. IF they cut him now, they actually lose nearly $5.5 million.

While I could see them cutting Adams post-June 1st. I could also see them keeping him for another year if only to avoid all the dead money.

Signing Love is cover since we can't rely on him to stay healthy.
 

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While I could see them cutting Adams post-June 1st. I could also see them keeping him for another year if only to avoid all the dead money.

Signing Love is cover since we can't rely on him to stay healthy.

Yep. Signing Love is also great just so we can have a solid nickel corner, but you're right.. in the event Diggs/Adams are hurt Love is a great contingency factor. Also, I have to imagine Diggs is gone after this upcoming season or restructured. $36M locked up in two safeties (current cap hit) is absolutely ridiculous.
 

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While I could see them cutting Adams post-June 1st. I could also see them keeping him for another year if only to avoid all the dead money.

Signing Love is cover since we can't rely on him to stay healthy.

I agree. With how contracts are written in the NFL - guys in Adams position play seasons like this one as a contract year. Adams has something to prove this year if he wants to see the final two seasons of his contract.

I can also see that Pete may just want 3 safeties on the field.
 

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While I could see them cutting Adams post-June 1st. I could also see them keeping him for another year if only to avoid all the dead money.

Signing Love is cover since we can't rely on him to stay healthy.
I agree. Think Adams will be given one more season, then Seahawks can decide if they want to keep him or save 16.8 (post-June cut) million in cap space. Duggs also is another one-year keeper then cut to save 11 million in 2024 most likely. Some significant cap saving cuts potentially in 2024.
 

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I agree. Think Adams will be given one more season, then Seahawks can decide if they want to keep him or save 16.8 (post-June cut) million in cap space. Duggs also is another one-year keeper then cut to save 11 million in 2024 most likely. Some significant cap saving cuts potentially in 2024.

Ultimately it comes down to whether they have enough cap space for this year. If they do, there is no reason to cut Adams.
 

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Ultimately it comes down to whether they have enough cap space for this year. If they do, there is no reason to cut Adams.
Think they are done with the FA market most likely. OTC has them with 17.4 in cap space and 7.7 in effective cap space and still has to account for Love, Reed, Bush, and possibly Ryan Neil. So cap space is very tight right now.
 

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Think they are done with the FA market most likely. OTC has them with 17.4 in cap space and 7.7 in effective cap space and still has to account for Love, Reed, Bush, and possibly Ryan Neil. So cap space is very tight right now.

Yeah I think they are more or less done. If they try to fit Bobby in, they will figure out a way to make it work.
 

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Think they are done with the FA market most likely. OTC has them with 17.4 in cap space and 7.7 in effective cap space and still has to account for Love, Reed, Bush, and possibly Ryan Neil. So cap space is very tight right now.

Yah but there's also like 8 guys we'll cut that are in there for about $750K now, so there's another $6M. But agreed, most likely done with the FA market. Either way I was pretty happy with all the signings we got. ILB and RB is still a glaring hole but I think both can be addressed in the draft.

I would not be surprised if we snag another runningback though. There's quite a few available - I wouldn't mind Kareem Hunt.
 

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Yah but there's also like 8 guys we'll cut that are in there for about $750K now, so there's another $6M. But agreed, most likely done with the FA market. Either way I was pretty happy with all the signings we got. ILB and RB is still a glaring hole but I think both can be addressed in the draft.

I would not be surprised if we snag another runningback though. There's quite a few available - I wouldn't mind Kareem Hunt.
RBs age like milk, just grab a rookie in round 4 or 5.
 

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I am curious to see what they plan to do at MLB. I feel like Bobby might still be in the cards.
 

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I am curious to see what they plan to do at MLB. I feel like Bobby might still be in the cards.

Probably the biggest hole position wise on the team.. I'm not sure what the ILB class is like. Seems like mostly a QB/DL draft class.
 

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Adam thielen got 3/$25m from Carolina, way more than I would have been comfortable spending
 
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