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Not sure.

Never done that.
So you NEVER trolled anyone...ever...

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Haha! My man! We listened to the same pod. I’m not talking shit right?
Morey - I said all along this should have been a three team deal with Nets Houston and us a year ago. But now James is where he wanted to be.

Also….I’m coming to realize that Morey likely didn’t have the leverage I thought he did in the Harden/Simmons deal. I just assessed it from the standpoint of Harden was going scorched earth and he had to get out. If it gets done in the summer with a Harris salary dump and Harden FA signing Morey would have been fucked on tampering. It sounds like he has been in conversation with Harden and his camp for a long time.
It was a great podcast.
I love listening to Morey, especially at the Sloan Sports Analytic conferences.

I believe both teams thought they had leverage over the other.
In the end, I believe they were both wrong.
Nets didn't pry away young talent.
Sixers didn't get Harden for nothing.
In a way, I believe both teams got what they wanted out of the deal.

But, I think we can all agree that the Nets did not get back what they gave up when they acquired Harden from HOU.
But, they did get back something.
So, they didn't lose him for nothing.

Also, a lot of the hate on Harden is just anti-Process, anti-Philly jabs that goes with the territory.
 

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The fucking moon bat telling the world we need to respect the opinion of people who think the vaccine is a push by Bill Gates to make them robots is not unprofessional but the dude who says fuck this and bolts is unprofessional.
Kyrie is a fucking megalomaniac.

Don't blame him for wanting out of that shitshow.

But, I do wonder about his running through sidekicks and teams like he does the strippers at Magic City.

He and CP3 colluded in the Summer to get the Clippers to deal him.

Once he.realized Chris.screams like a banshee at his teammates, he wanted him gone.

Morey did not want to do the Westbrook.deal.

But, did so to keep his guy happy.

Honestly, maybe it's not about the sidekick.

Maybe the lessen here is he wants to play for his enabler and there is nobody that caters to him more than Darryl.
 

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Kyrie is a fucking megalomaniac.

Don't blame him for wanting out of that shitshow.

But, I do wonder about his running through sidekicks and teams like he does the strippers at Magic City.

He and CP3 colluded in the Summer to get the Clippers to deal him.

Once he.realized Chris.screams like a banshee at his teammates, he wanted him gone.

Morey did not want to do the Westbrook.deal.

But, did so to keep his guy happy.

Honestly, maybe it's not about the sidekick.

Maybe the lessen here is he wants to play for his enabler and there is nobody that caters to him more than Darryl.
I think what gets lost is that there does appear to be a bond between Morey and Harden.
And if anyone knows how to get the best out of Harden, it would be Morey.

Despite the presence of Doc Rivers......
 

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It was a great podcast.
I love listening to Morey, especially at the Sloan Sports Analytic conferences.

I believe both teams thought they had leverage over the other.
In the end, I believe they were both wrong.
Nets didn't pry away young talent.
Sixers didn't get Harden for nothing.
In a way, I believe both teams got what they wanted out of the deal.

But, I think we can all agree that the Nets did not get back what they gave up when they acquired Harden from HOU.
But, they did get back something.
So, they didn't lose him for nothing.

Also, a lot of the hate on Harden is just anti-Process, anti-Philly jabs that goes with the territory.
And truth be told, I embrace Philly as the villain. Makes sports more fun.
 

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Kyrie is a fucking megalomaniac.

Don't blame him for wanting out of that shitshow.

But, I do wonder about his running through sidekicks and teams like he does the strippers at Magic City.

He and CP3 colluded in the Summer to get the Clippers to deal him.

Once he.realized Chris.screams like a banshee at his teammates, he wanted him gone.

Morey did not want to do the Westbrook.deal.

But, did so to keep his guy happy.

Honestly, maybe it's not about the sidekick.

Maybe the lessen here is he wants to play for his enabler and there is nobody that caters to him more than Darryl.
He and Morey do have a weird kind of close vibe. Kind of odd to see with a player and front office guy.
 

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I think what gets lost is that there does appear to be a bond between Morey and Harden.
And if anyone knows how to get the best out of Harden, it would be Morey.

Despite the presence of Doc Rivers......
My favorite stat line last night:
Furkan Korkmaz - DNP

Doc has to find a role for Harris. He doesn’t fit. That’s abundantly clear. But looking at his skill set and dude should be able to at least commit to rebounding. This team really needs rebounding help. They got killed again last night giving up offensive rebounds. That’s a role they can fit Harris into. They just have to sell him on it and put him in spots to do so.
 

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He asked for A Trade which became the CP3 trade because that’s all they could make work. And then it actually worked despite having two guys who were ball dominant. CP3 isn’t for everybody and him railing on Harden about his man boobs (still funny to me) made personal shit bigger than basketball shit. CP3 works in Pho because who is not gonna defer to him on that roster? Same in OKC that one year. But each pairing after CP3 got worse and worse.
No.

He asked for Paul, specifically.

He asked for Paul to be dealt for Westbrook, specifically.
 

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I think what gets lost is that there does appear to be a bond between Morey and Harden.
And if anyone knows how to get the best out of Harden, it would be Morey.

Despite the presence of Doc Rivers......
Agree.

Morey and Harden are sympatico.

They have a blind loyalty towards each other.
 

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@SJ76 is your squad ever going to beat a good team?


So far it hasn’t happened. Gotta learn how to win. So just beating the bad teams is the first step apparently.

But we will see what happens in the playoffs. I don’t expect a lot this year tho.

Philly looks interesting. Harden kinda possessed for now
 

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The dedication!!!


Slightly off-screen : The Delilah's girls just past the top of the stairs....


About time he got a fire lit under his ass. Good to see him determined. Now he just needs to play D very game. No more poor me I’m James
 

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I’ll defer to you. I wasn’t following this situation closely at that time.
Yeah, that was a half decade ago.

I only remember because my team was involved.

Here's a snippet of how both trades came to fruition.

How they landed CP3

Harden, who finished as a runner-up for the NBA’s MVP award for the second time in three seasons, campaigned for Paul to join him in Houston. In turn, Paul could have entered the free agent market and talk to multiple teams when he became a free agent on July 1, perhaps joining the San Antonio Spurs, who could use a point guard. By opting into his deal for next season and facilitating this trade, Paul made it clear he wanted to play for the Rockets – and, specifically, wanted to play with Harden.


Paul and Harden discussed the possibility of a partnership at length, believing they can find a way to thrive together, league sources said.



Morey on the Westbrook deal....


"Yeah, a lot of teamwork. I mean, with James at a high (communication) level, and obviously he felt like (Westbrook) could be a good fit here. He was curious if there was a way to do it where we could keep everyone and not have to give up anything (laughs). Unfortunately the math of the deal required Chris going out, unfortunately.”

Instead, Morey and Presti collaborated on their second blockbuster together, reuniting Westbrook and Harden nearly seven years after the trade that sent Harden to Houston. “At one point, James asked me, ‘Why is it taking so long?’” Morey said. “I told him, ‘Dude, your trade took me five months.’”
 

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I've stated, repeatedly, that I am tuuuuuuuuuurible at comparing players from different eras.

I know Russell is the greatest winner in NBA history.

But, was he a better player than Durant?

More accomplished team accolades doesn't equate to being the better player.

Was Garnett better than Barkley?

That's a really hard one for me.


IMO Russell wasn't half the player KD has been. Garnett-Barkley is a tough one honestly but on my list of PF's I have Garnett ahead of Barkley I believe
 

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Yeah, that was a half decade ago.

I only remember because my team was involved.

Here's a snippet of how both trades came to fruition.

How they landed CP3

Harden, who finished as a runner-up for the NBA’s MVP award for the second time in three seasons, campaigned for Paul to join him in Houston. In turn, Paul could have entered the free agent market and talk to multiple teams when he became a free agent on July 1, perhaps joining the San Antonio Spurs, who could use a point guard. By opting into his deal for next season and facilitating this trade, Paul made it clear he wanted to play for the Rockets – and, specifically, wanted to play with Harden.


Paul and Harden discussed the possibility of a partnership at length, believing they can find a way to thrive together, league sources said.



Morey on the Westbrook deal....


"Yeah, a lot of teamwork. I mean, with James at a high (communication) level, and obviously he felt like (Westbrook) could be a good fit here. He was curious if there was a way to do it where we could keep everyone and not have to give up anything (laughs). Unfortunately the math of the deal required Chris going out, unfortunately.”

Instead, Morey and Presti collaborated on their second blockbuster together, reuniting Westbrook and Harden nearly seven years after the trade that sent Harden to Houston. “At one point, James asked me, ‘Why is it taking so long?’” Morey said. “I told him, ‘Dude, your trade took me five months.’”
Like I have said before, Harden campaigned for CP3 and when it didn't work he recruited RW. That was all him, it's too bad he gave up so soon on CP3, obviously the guy had a lot left and they very well could have won a championship, almost did if not for the CP3 injury. Houston did everything they could to cater around Harden
 
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