2021-2022 NBA Season

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

In Vegas, slightly shitfaced. Would appreciate it if you could root for the Lakers this one time please.

For you.

Go Lakers!!!

 

[thunderc]

For you.

Go Lakers!!!

If they have played a worse first half this year I haven’t seen it

 

[Shanemansj13]

If they have played a worse first half this year I haven’t seen it

Willie Green for COY!

 

[Black Adam]

For you.

Go Lakers!!!

Like ewwwwwwwwwww...

 

[bksballer89]

How does vogel survive this one?

 

[WiggyRuss]

 

[Shanemansj13]

Getting beat by 30…they should replace them with other teams. Kinda ridiculous at this point. Nobody wants to see NO-LA

 

[Black Adam]

How does vogel survive this one?

It's gone about 45 minutes beyond ugly...

 

[bksballer89]

Getting beat by 30…they should replace them with other teams. Kinda ridiculous at this point. Nobody wants to see NO-LA

But they remove the heat from tnt on Thursday lol meanwhile we are in a stretch of 4 straight games for the knicks on espn/abc

 

[Shanemansj13]

It's gone about 45 minutes beyond ugly...

 

[HurricaneDij39]

Embrace the Pels...

 

[thunderc]

Embrace the Pels...

F them mfers

 

[WiggyRuss]

there are 3 minutes left in the Lakers game. A game where they are getting destroyed.

LeBron is still in the game. He has played 36 minutes.

This makes no sense to me. What is Vogel doing?

 

[WiggyRuss]

RW and LeBron combine for 14 turnovers by themselves.

Without AD this is not a good team.

Reeves, Johnson, Carmelo, Howard, Ariza---- these are all below average NBA players.

Monk is the only guy who is about average. He has been a good story- but seriously- how many teams does he start on in the NBA? Any?

Reeves is a nice developmental story for a guy who was undrafted- but is he in many teams top 8-9 rotation players? Any good teams in the NBA at all?

Its LeBron- Davis, and then just a bunch of riff-raff. With Davis out- it turns into a mess. With Davis they are a decent team.

just a terrible job by Pelinka and Buss and the front office. The Lakers lost for over half a decade- and just a few short years later are just totally devoid of draft assets, impactful young players, and cap space.

I did not think it would happen- but I could actually see a LeBron trade this offseason if they do not have some kind of miracle plan to add talent to this team- especially considering Monk is likely gone- but in the grand scheme of things- you need 3 players that are better than Monk- who is an average NBA player at best. A nice story- that has taken advantage of his opportunity, but so many teams have guys that are as good or better playing roles that are much much less crucial.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I like Monk- and think he has a role to play- and is going to get a nice raise- but what is he really?

The Cavs are by no means a great team- they are, in my opinion, right now, a pretty decent team that is overachieving and struggling because of injuries- maybe the 7th team in the East when all is said and done (this year at least). Cedi Osman - when the Cavs are healthy- is like what? their 9th guy? Id take him over Monk EASILY.

This is not to rip on Monk- I think he has outperformed everyone's expectations and been a major positive- but its more of an illustration to show how lacking the Lakers depth is when Monk- a guy who was let go by his previous team and signed a minimal 1 year offer- is all of a sudden counted on to be your 4th or so guy.

its the same with THT, Reeves, Johnson---- fine developmental guys at the end of the rotation- but these guys are expected to play real roles when the predicable failure of the ancient vets the Lakers brought in failed to perform.

Is there a guy that is deserving of being a 6th or 7th guy on the entire Lakers team, let alone a 4th or 5th guy? I would say no.

That is an abject failure of scouting, drafting, strategy, cap management by the front office- and its why despite having LeBron James the Lakers will likely finish 9th or worse in the conference.

Cedi Osman would easily be the Lakers 4th best player. That is an unimaginable failure of the front office and ownership for a team with plenty of cash, the draw of LA, the draw of playing with LeBron and Davis, and had a ton of assets not too long ago after enduring 6 years of rebuilding.

 

[wildturkey]

How does vogel survive this one?

Probably the same reason he's survived so far; the options on the bench to replace him are actually worse (mostly because Jeanie is too fucking cheap to pay for better assistants). But on the other hand, you can tell by their body language they don't respect him at all. So maybe they'd actually show a little effort and pride playing for David Fizdale or Phil Handy the rest of the season as they desperately try to hold onto a Play In slot.

Should have fired him back in early November when they still had a decent chance to bring in an outside coach and have enough time to implement something. I remember posting here like after 3 or 4 games into the season it was apparent Vogel had no system whatsoever with this roster (partially not his fault) and its just been all down hill from there proving me right

 

[WiggyRuss]

Probably the same reason he's survived so far; the options on the bench to replace him are actually worse (mostly because Jeanie is too fucking cheap to pay for better assistants). But on the other hand, you can tell by their body language they don't respect him at all. So maybe they'd actually show a little effort and pride playing for David Fizdale or Phil Handy the rest of the season as they desperately try to hold onto a Play In slot.

Should have fired him back in early November when they still had a decent chance to bring in an outside coach and have enough time to implement something. I remember posting here like after 3 or 4 games into the season it was apparent Vogel had no system whatsoever with this roster (partially not his fault) and its just been all down hill from there proving me right

at this point- he has lost the team. Some of it is his fault no doubt- some is not---- but when it gets to this point- its usually the coach that feels the hammer fall.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Well then, it's probably safe to assume that he really did talk to Rich Paul.

I don't know who said what, but it appeared to me that the every one on the internet was out to destroy Lebron and the Lakers relationship and force the Lakers to blowing the entire team up. If Westbrook picks up his player option this summer, then as an expiring contract the Lakers can move out. My personal opinion is the Lakers problems got worse with Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony.

 

[WiggyRuss]

as far as my Cavs go- and I am not giving up yet- and its been a very succesful season for them--- but I think youth and injuries are catching up.

I hate using the injury excuse but when basically all your guards are hurt- (first Sexton, then Rubio, now LeVert, Garland's injury, Rondo missing 2 weeks now)- you are in some trouble. They have no guards.

Maybe they should have brought in someone else during the deadline considering Rondo's age, and Garland's lingering back injury. I think they will regret that.

Its a shame a decent young team is getting sabotaged by having to start a street free agent like Goodwin and basically having no point guard play at all.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I don't know who said what, but it appeared to me that the every one on the internet was out to destroy Lebron and the Lakers relationship and force the Lakers to blowing the entire team up. If Westbrook picks up his player option this summer, then as an expiring contract the Lakers can move out. My personal opinion is the Lakers problems got worse with Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony.

problem about RW this offseason -is you MIGHT be able to trade him- but no one is going to offer you 48 million (his salary) in expiring contracts for his expiring contract. Hell- its probably almost impossible to find a team that even has 48 million in expiring deals (unless you count Houston and Wall- who already said they want your 1st round pick that the Lakers dont want to give up).

Do you want to get rid of him so bad that you compromise your possible cap space the following season?

That is the question they are going to have to wrestle with.