2018 CFB Season Fun Fact

[Blackshirts BLVD]

Oregon's was due to A&M backing out.

I can't speak to that. I went off of what wiki stated was scheduled/played. But to be fair, I also counted Nebraskas game against Bethune-Cookman even though Akron was originally scheduled.

 

[jwolt92]

I figured that, because I don't think you're allowed to schedule more than one FCS opponent for the regular season... I could be wrong though.

You can but only one counts towards your bowl eligibility, and even that has some rules (see FSU 2017 season) so instead of winning 6 games you have to win 7.

 

[7Samurai13]

You can but only one counts towards your bowl eligibility, and even that has some rules (see FSU 2017 season) so instead of winning 6 games you have to win 7.

Except the NCAA changed the rules to allow FSU to be bowl eligible in 2017.

 

[jwolt92]

Except the NCAA changed the rules to allow FSU to be bowl eligible in 2017.

Florida State: FCS win does count toward bowl eligibility

Not true, but still a very weak way to get in that season and the streak was stopped the next year anyways.

 

[BoiseStateFan27]

Just finishing the 2017 season — period — will likely be a relief to Florida State fans.

If only they knew what was awaiting them in 2018 lol

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Here's another 'Fun Fact': The ACC & SEC have four OOC games and the other three P5 conferences not so much.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

The numbers say SEC and PAC.

I didn't crunch the numbers.

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No they don't. The ACC & SEC have four OOC games vs the PAC's 3. Now do the math.

 

[Kaplony]

I figured that, because I don't think you're allowed to schedule more than one FCS opponent for the regular season... I could be wrong though.

You could schedule all of your OOC games as FCS teams if you so desired, but only one game counts toward bowl eligibility so you better win at least five of your conference games.

 

[Red_Alert]

No they don't. The ACC & SEC have four OOC games vs the PAC's 3. Now do the math.

Are all 4 of those ACC and SEC OOC opponents G5 or FCS? No

If 2 of those OOC's are against P5 opponents they do not count in the percentages.

Again: P5 OOC opponents weren't calculated into those percentages. Only G5 and FCS.

Now do the math

 

[Red_Alert]

Again from the OP. I didn't crunch or verify these numbers. I simply read basic English.

SEC: 43 of their 56 OOC games were with G5 or FCS opponents, 76% of all OOC games were G5 or FCS. Specifically, 15 of the 43 were FCS = 32%.

ACC: 37 of their 56 OOC games were with G5 or FCS opponents, 66% of all OOC games were G5 or FCS. Specifically, 14 of the 37 were FCS = 37%.

PAC12: 27 of their 36 OCC games were with G5 or FCS opponents, 75% of all OOC games were G5 or FCS. Specifically, 9 of the 27 were FCS = 33%

Big12: 19 of their 30 OOC games were with G5 or FCS opponents, 63% of all OOC games were G5 or FCS. Specifically, 8 of the 19 were FCS = 42%.

B1G: 26 of their 42 OOC games were with G5 or FCS opponents, 61% of all OOC games were G5 or FCS. Specifically, 3 of the 26 were FCS = 11%.

OP is clearly referencing OOC G5 and FCS opponents.
Do you see anything about P5 OOC opponents in there? No

How many total OOC games doesn't fucking matter in those overall conference percentages. Only G5 and FCS opponents matter.

SEC: 76%
PAC12: 75%
ACC: 66%
Big12: 63%
Big10: 61%

 

[AlaskaGuy]

So what you're saying is that the ACC and SEC play the least amount of Power 5 games, on average?

The numbers say SEC and PAC.

I didn't crunch the numbers.

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The PAC plays more P5 opponents on average than the ACC & SEC when not just factoring the OOC and that was what @DHoey was alluding to.

 

[Red_Alert]

The PAC plays more P5 opponents on average than the ACC & SEC when not just factoring the OOC and that was what @DHoey was alluding to.

And I was referring to the OP's G5 and FCS percentages.

If his calculations are correct, the SEC and PAC play more G5 and FCS than anyone else.

10% more.

As I also made clear, those percentages could be skewed by just a few teams in a conference who schedule nothing but G5 and FCS opponents OOC.

In that case it doesn't fucking matter whether a conference plays 8 or 9 conference opponents.

Conferences playing 9 'conference' opponents can still be feasting on nothing but G5 and FCS opponents in those OOC games.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

In that case it doesn't fucking matter whether a conference plays 8 or 9 conference opponents.

Conferences playing 9 'conference' opponents can still be feasting on nothing but G5 and FCS opponents in those OOC games.

When you only have 3 OOC games you can afford to feast on cupcakes seeing how you already have 9 P5 opponents compared to the ACC & SEC's 8 before you factor in the OOC.

9 > 8

 

[AlaskaGuy]

@Blackshirts BLVD

 

[Red_Alert]

When you you only have 3 OOC games you can afford to feast on cupcakes seeing how you already have 9 P5 opponents compared to the ACC & SEC's 8 before you factor in the OOC.

9 > 8

Great. But that has nothing to do with the OP's point in that the SEC and PAC played more G5 and FCS opponents than anyone else.

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

For those interested, here are the P5 OOC teams in the same format but with team names. I didn't run percentages though, you can do that yourself if you want it. The ACC is a strange one because ND is partly involved as a conference team... sorta not though too. So I counted them as an independent still.

SEC
UGA – 1 (Gtech)
Kentucky – 1 Louisville
Florida – 1 FSU
South Carolina – 1 Clemson
Missouri – 1 Purdue
Vandy – 1 Notre Dame
Tennessee – 1 West Virginia
Bama – 1 Louisville
A&M – 1 Clemson
LSU – 1 Miami
Miss St – 1 KState
Auburn – 1 Washington
Ole Miss – 1 TTech
Arkansas – 0
Total P5 = 13

ACC
Clemson – 2 A&M and South Carolina
Syracuse – 1 ND
NC State – 0
BC – 1 Purdue
Wake – 1 ND
FSU – 2 ND and Florida
Louisville – 2 Bama and Kentucky
Pitt – 1 PennSt
Gtech – 1 UGA
Miami – 1 LSU
UVA – 1 Indiana
Va Tech – 1 ND
Duke – 2 Northwestern and Baylor
NC- 1 Cal
Total P5 = 17

PAC
Washington – 1 Auburn
WSU – 0
Stanford – 1 ND
Oregon – 0
Cal – 1 NC
Oregon St – 1 Ohio St
Utah – 0
AZ State – 1 Michigan St
USC – 2 Texas and ND
Arizona – 0
UCLA – 1 Oklahoma
Colorado – 1 Nebraska
Total P5 = 9


Big12
Oklahoma – 1 USC
Texas – 2 USC and Maryland
ISU – 1 Iowa
WVU – 1 Tennessee
TCU – 1 Ohio State
Baylor – 1 Duke
KState – 1 Miss St
TTech – 1 Ole Miss
Okie St – 0
Kansas – 1 Rutgers
Total P5 = 10

B1G
Ohio State – 2 Oregon St and TCU
Michigan – 1 ND
Penn St – 1 Pitt
Michigan St – 1 AZ State
Maryland – 1 Texas
Indiana – 1 Virginia
Rutgers – 1 Kansas
Northwestern – 2 Duke and ND
Wisconsin – 0
Purdue – 2 BC and Mizzou
Iowa – 1 Iowa St
Nebraska – 1 Colorado
Minnesota - 0
Illinois - 0
Total P5 = 14

*Note: ND is the only non-P5 conference team that was counted as P5.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

For those interested, here are the P5 OOC teams in the same format but with team names. I didn't run percentages though, you can do that yourself if you want it. The ACC is a strange one because ND is partly involved as a conference team... sorta not though too. So I counted them as an independent still.

SEC
UGA – 1 (Gtech)
Kentucky – 1 Louisville
Florida – 1 FSU
South Carolina – 1 Clemson
Missouri – 1 Purdue
Vandy – 1 Notre Dame
Tennessee – 1 West Virginia
Bama – 1 Louisville
A&M – 1 Clemson
LSU – 1 Miami
Miss St – 1 KState
Auburn – 1 Washington
Ole Miss – 1 TTech
Arkansas – 0
Total P5 = 13

ACC
Clemson – 2 A&M and South Carolina
Syracuse – 1 ND
NC State – 0
BC – 1 Purdue
Wake – 1 ND
FSU – 2 ND and Florida
Louisville – 2 Bama and Kentucky
Pitt – 1 PennSt
Gtech – 1 UGA
Miami – 1 LSU
UVA – 1 Indiana
Va Tech – 1 ND
Duke – 2 Northwestern and Baylor
NC- 1 Cal
Total P5 = 17

PAC
Washington – 1 Auburn
WSU – 0
Stanford – 1 ND
Oregon – 0
Cal – 1 NC
Oregon St – 1 Ohio St
Utah – 0
AZ State – 1 Michigan St
USC – 2 Texas and ND
Arizona – 0
UCLA – 1 Oklahoma
Colorado – 1 Nebraska
Total P5 = 9


Big12
Oklahoma – 1 USC
Texas – 2 USC and Maryland
ISU – 1 Iowa
WVU – 1 Tennessee
TCU – 1 Ohio State
Baylor – 1 Duke
KState – 1 Miss St
TTech – 1 Ole Miss
Okie St – 0
Kansas – 1 Rutgers
Total P5 = 10

B1G
Ohio State – 2 Oregon St and TCU
Michigan – 1 ND
Penn St – 1 Pitt
Michigan St – 1 AZ State
Maryland – 1 Texas
Indiana – 1 Virginia
Rutgers – 1 Kansas
Northwestern – 2 Duke and ND
Wisconsin – 0
Purdue – 2 BC and Mizzou
Iowa – 1 Iowa St
Nebraska – 1 Colorado
Minnesota - 0
Illinois - 0
Total P5 = 14

*Note: ND is the only non-P5 conference team that was counted as P5.

I usually count all the P5 teams each conference plays ... entire schedule then I divide that total by the amount of teams in said conference ... so say the PAC played X amount of P5's ... I would divide X by 12 to get an average. This is where the ACC & SEC game the system. Each of those conferences have 14 members so when you add the total amount of P5 teams that the SEC plays for example and then divide it by 14 you'll see why they don't move to a 9 game conference schedule.

 

[jwolt92]

The PAC plays more P5 opponents on average than the ACC & SEC when not just factoring the OOC and that was what @DHoey was alluding to.

Are we really calling Oregon St., Cal, Colorado, and UCLA P5 teams?

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Are we really calling Oregon St., Cal, Colorado, and UCLA P5 teams?

FSU plays in the ACC so not sure why you're even posting that when it's Clemson and 13 elves.

 

[jwolt92]

FSU plays in the ACC so not sure why you're even posting that when it's Clemson and 13 elves.

Remind me when the last time the PAC12 won a championship? And when FSU won one? Good talk