2017 US Open - Flushing Meadows, New York (8/28/2017 - 9/10/2017)

[nuraman00]

Nadal's story is also one of perseverance. As average as he looked in 2015 and 2016, he came back this year to win again.

The end was called too early.

 

[nuraman00]

Nadal played in 6 hard court finals in 2013, winning 4. Then between 2014-2016, he played in 6 finals, but only won 1.

 

[Hs0022]

Anderson jumps from 32>15, Rublev jumps from 53>37, & Shapovalov went from 69>51 That is all in terms of big jumps in the top 60 on the men's side.

Out of all of them Anderson's jump is completely overrated.

 

[Hs0022]

he was missing quite a lot in the first set too. he would have needed to serve like a beast to win. for a guy who's @6'7" you think he could have served at a higher percentage.

I am only 5'8" and can get my first serves in without problem when I focus properly. He has no excuse being a foot taller. It's actually disgusting!

 

[desert heat]

I am only 5'8" and can get my first serves in without problem when I focus properly. He has no excuse being a foot taller. It's actually disgusting!

i agree. i didn't watch the whole match, but i thought he served poorly.

i good toss, and a little spin will do wonders, no matter what height you are.

 

[Hs0022]

Colic is another one that is completely overrated. He sparked briefly and hit his peak when he won his USO. Even Roddick is much more legit than some of these guys that makes the pundits think they are something.

 

[Hs0022]

If Fed is feeling 100% I like his chances to win one more slam for the whole of next year. Maybe one more good year left practically speaking.

 

[bksballer89]

Out of all of them Anderson's jump is completely overrated.

Yep I agree.

 

[nuraman00]

Out of all of them Anderson's jump is completely overrated.

His career high is 10, so it's not unusual for him to be in that range.

 

[nuraman00]

i agree. i didn't watch the whole match, but i thought he served poorly.

i good toss, and a little spin will do wonders, no matter what height you are.

But what if it's a 62 mph serve?

 

[nuraman00]

Colic is another one that is completely overrated. He sparked briefly and hit his peak when he won his USO. Even Roddick is much more legit than some of these guys that makes the pundits think they are something.

He also made 1 AO SF in 2010, 3 Wimbledon QFs from 2014-2016, 2 USO QFs in 2009, 2012, a USO SF in 2015, and a FO QF in 2017.

 

[nuraman00]

Venus' loss at the US Open just a setback, nothing more

 

[nuraman00]

Keys 'one thousand percent' up for joining Sloane's celebration

 

[desert heat]

But what if it's a 62 mph serve?

then there's some bad technique going on.

 

[nuraman00]

then there's some bad technique going on.

I haven't played in a few years, but I do think this is me.

 

[desert heat]

I haven't played in a few years, but I do think this is me.

there's plenty of youtube lessons if you decide to get back into it.

 

[nuraman00]

there's plenty of youtube lessons if you decide to get back into it.

What's the minimum speed you think an adult should be able to hit a serve, with minimum strength?

I can get it in, but it's usually to the same spot, with same speed. And it's flat.

How important is arm strength, vs. the overall motion?

Listening to the broadcasters, either about Kevin Anderson or Del Potro, one of them was described as using his hips during serving.

 

[desert heat]

What's the minimum speed you think an adult should be able to hit a serve, with minimum strength?

I can get it in, but it's usually to the same spot, with same speed. And it's flat.

How important is arm strength, vs. the overall motion?

Listening to the broadcasters, either about Kevin Anderson or Del Potro, one of them was described as using his hips during serving.

mcenroe serves pretty well, and he's hardly a weight lifter.

racket speed is the key to power, not strength. you want your upper body relaxed, not tense. force = mass x acceleration.

if right handed-(flat serve)

the motion is much like throwing. you body acts like a whip. you toss the ball a little out in front, slightly to the right. then you reach back and get in the trophy position, with weight on the back foot. then you swing, weight is shifted from the back foot to the front, you rotate your shoulders, pronate the wrist, flatten the racket out, snapping through the ball.

spin serve-toss the ball more over your head, and brush up on the back of the ball, to get a 8am-2pm rotation on the ball.

 

[Hs0022]

mcenroe serves pretty well, and he's hardly a weight lifter.

racket speed is the key to power, not strength. you want your upper body relaxed, not tense. force = mass x acceleration.

if right handed-(flat serve)

the motion is much like throwing. you body acts like a whip. you toss the ball a little out in front, slightly to the right. then you reach back and get in the trophy position, with weight on the back foot. then you swing, weight is shifted from the back foot to the front, you rotate your shoulders, pronate the wrist, flatten the racket out, snapping through the ball.

spin serve-toss the ball more over your head, and brush up on the back of the ball, to get a 8am-2pm rotation on the ball.

Emphasis on the word whip. Do not hammer grip the handle just keeping enough grip so it doesn't fall if your hand, the index finger can be used to stabilize the frame by separating from the rest of the fingers pointing in an angled manner in the general direction of the throats of the frame, and also keep the tossing hand up pointing toward the sky as long as possible before racquet impact with ball. Try to hit the ball at a higher up spot in its toss trajectory, and spring up to get more height for impact.

 

[Hs0022]

Holding the handle rigid and firm can add to shoulder problems as one may be led to believe that more control comes with a firmer grip.