2016 Sanchez or Lynch is not 2015 PMF

[SpringStein]

Heath started the first 8 games. And then was replaced by Frerotte since Heath stunk.

 

[DownSetHutch]

All 3 of our starting QB prospects are question marks, yet I'm pretty confident that our QB situation will be just fine, no matter who is 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. All 3 have the potential to be at least solid, if not really good this season. My guess is that Sanchez will be the starter game 1, and that either of the other 2 could take over the starting role at some point during the season due to injury. I don't think Lynch will start until at least the Bye unless it is due to injury, however. And I could see him sitting all of 2016, save for some mop up duty. I would be ok with that. Don't want to get too impatient to see what the kid's got. He is likely (imo) the future and should be brought along at a pace that is most conducive to him developing into the starter.

 

[cdumler7]

or Kubiak falls in love with Lynch during the season like Shanny did with Cutler in 2006


Plummer 7-4 to start the season, Cutler 2-3 down the stretch and throws a pick 6 in the last game of the year , loses in OT, and misses the playoffs

Man Debbie downer today. Who knows. A lot could happen this upcoming season with the QB position. My hope above all hope is that Sanchez does hold the position all year. Most likely that means we are winning and in the running for another Super Bowl. Also gives our rookie a full year to sit and learn the system while also working on his footwork and understanding of defensive schemes. I think that would be our best for the short term and long term of the team.

 

[cdumler7]

Yep. Just keep dissing Simian. Going to go right from Sanchez to Lynch without even considering Trevor. There's like 2 guys on here besides myself that at least gives the guy a shot and heard a lot more praise from Kubiak and teammates regarding him than Lynch. Funny.

I'm not completely dismissing him by any means. He can definitely prove me wrong. As I've said before though I've watched his college tape that looked about as bad as I have seen from a college QB that got drafted into the NFL and his pre season beyond a few nice throws wasn't anything that got me all that excited either. Just need to see more from the kid to get a bit more excited. I'm glad he is looking good though. The more competition especially at the QB position the better the team will be.

 

[SpiritOf77]

There is a big difference between Shanahan / Cutler / Plummer circa 2006 and Kubiak / Lynch / Sanchez 2016 ..

Jake was coming off a career year, and had come into his own as a Bronco .. It is obvious that he and Shanahan were not compatible, as the two have completely different personalities, and which is why Shanahan moved up in the draft to pick Cutler ..

Mark Sanchez has become an afterthought in the NFL, and is trying to regain his position as NFL starting QB .. Mark Sanchez is not the established starter here in Denver as Jake was - the established started playing the best football of his career like Jake in 2005 ..

Drafting Lynch is not the slap in the face to Sanchez as it was w/ Jake

Shanahan felt he was bigger than the team, and everything fell apart once Kubes left for Houston ..

The organization was doomed with Shanahan having all that control without the guys who won the Super Bowl in Kubiak and Alex Gibbs

 

[Mingo]

Chris Harris Jr. the other day was pointing out to the press not to overlook Siemian - that he (Chris Hays) was impressed with him.

The Broncos won't back away from pointing out how good Siemian is either - because even if Lynch is the 2nd coming - Siemian might build trade value down the road.

On Lynch - I think he is off to a good start. Something just tingles inside of me thinking of Lynch hitting a streaking DT or Sanders down field - with the ball floating into their hands without breaking stride. That appears to be Lynch's great gift - and as a credible threat it is the best addition to the Kubiak offense since it was invented for a guy like Elway who could sling it down field making the defense cover the vertical deeper than they want to.

All these things work together, of course, and the credible deep threat sets up the zone blocking and the run game. Lynch is the ideal QB to run this offense - at least by physical qualification.

On Sanchez - I like his story too. He also fits the offense in his own way and he is getting his gold platted opportunity for a 2nd chance at hitting it big - which in American culture doesn't often happen. He has great footwork - and great execution on the roll out pass. It's a good thing Sanchez is a vet because that means he might have learned things from his early career making his judgements with the football more efficient.

On Siemian - my scouting - such as it is - of Siemian in college was he had to play with an oline that was hilariously bad at pass protection. Siemian was a different kind of quarterback than the offense he was playing in called for - Northwestern used him when they were desperate and then he got an ACL. On the Broncos he is healthy - he's got arm and accuracy - good footwork - better understanding of the Kubiak offense - and guys on the team who believe him. Those who say Siemian had some success in the pre-season, but that was against some scrubs - well I can tell those people - I've watched Broncos pre-season games since 1960 many years in search of a QB and Siemian's performance measured against Broncos pre-season history makes Siemain look pretty darn good to me. Remember - he may have been playing against scrubs, but he was also playing with scrubs.

 

[CEH]

Man Debbie downer today. Who knows. A lot could happen this upcoming season with the QB position. My hope above all hope is that Sanchez does hold the position all year. Most likely that means we are winning and in the running for another Super Bowl. Also gives our rookie a full year to sit and learn the system while also working on his footwork and understanding of defensive schemes. I think that would be our best for the short term and long term of the team.

I'm was just presenting a third alternative to your scenario that has played out here in Denver. Then Geo asked if a 7th rounder ever beat out a 1st rounder and I once again pointed out a real life example. Everything here is pure speculation at this point not having seen Lynch. I remember Cutler flashing his big arm early in the 2006 preseason (Detroit and Arizona) , I suspect if Lynch flashes early , it's not out of the relm of possibility to see the new toy be put into action sooner rather than later. The term being thrown around is "mircowave" his development. Now every 1st round QB will flash in QTAs that is why they were drafted in the 1st pure athletic talent. Can he handle the mental side where most QBs fail.

 

[58crash]

You rest your case? So me saying the better QB play we get the better our chances and that proves your point? That to me is a "No Duh" kind of statement. Of course better QB play increases any teams chances. What I am saying is that teams have won the Super Bowl with below average talent at the QB position. Heck we did it last year. The Ravens and Bucs of the early 2000's. Heck the Giants with Eli Manning playing below average won the Super Bowl. There are many different ways to accomplish winning the Super Bowl. The QB is not the end all be all is all I am saying.

I think he at this point is yanking your chain ...lol

 

[58crash]

Why would you expect a "vanilla" offense? If Lynch beats out Sanchez, it will also be because he is able to tackle the bulk of the plays Kubiak wants to run. It doesn't take two years just to learn it. Flacco didn't take that long to excel in it.

Also people keep talking as though Lynch has never played west Coast O ???? He played west Coast his F year of college frick man get with the program !!!!

 

[CEH]

Also people keep talking as though Lynch has never played west Coast O ???? He played west Coast his F year of college frick man get with the program !!!!

And he has never taken a snap from under center
That is the biggest change for him to work on.

 

[58crash]

Not sure ? So they ran west coast with out being under Center his F year that seems odd ???????

 

[WalkerBoh]

And he has never taken a snap from under center
That is the biggest change for him to work on.

You might want to check out this goal line play.....,

 

[SpringStein]

I thought I had heard that his freshman year was primarily under center, while the past two years were mostly out of the shotgun.

 

[CEH]

Let me rephrase ... never say never
Lynch has primarily been in the shotgun during his time at memphis

 

[WalkerBoh]

Let me rephrase ... never say never
Lynch has primarily been in the shotgun during his time at memphis

That may be, but the concept of playing under center isn't completely foreign to him either. Instead of training him to do something he's never done, Kubiak will simply be shaking out the cobwebs.

 

[cdumler7]

I'm was just presenting a third alternative to your scenario that has played out here in Denver. Then Geo asked if a 7th rounder ever beat out a 1st rounder and I once again pointed out a real life example. Everything here is pure speculation at this point not having seen Lynch. I remember Cutler flashing his big arm early in the 2006 preseason (Detroit and Arizona) , I suspect if Lynch flashes early , it's not out of the relm of possibility to see the new toy be put into action sooner rather than later. The term being thrown around is "mircowave" his development. Now every 1st round QB will flash in QTAs that is why they were drafted in the 1st pure athletic talent. Can he handle the mental side where most QBs fail.

Oh I get that we have seen that scenario play out. But as was said above this is a bit different. Sanchez is easily just considered the stop gap QB. Plummer coming off a career year and taking us to the AFC Championship then sees our team trade up to take his replacement. Definitely a gut check of why would they do that? Also part of that year was that we lost Kubiak as our OC. So again now Plummer is having to deal with a new OC, a Head Coach that just didn't seem too keen on him, and a rookie that the FO/Coaching Staff desperately wants to see play. I honestly can't see Kubiak doing that to Plummer if he was still the OC at that time. He has always been pretty loyal to a fault to his veterans.

 

[Mingo]

Trevor Siemian the intriguing “Other Guy” in Denver Broncos’ QB derby

Nice story Siemian - from @SpringStein's fav reporter.

 

[SpringStein]

Trevor Siemian the intriguing “Other Guy” in Denver Broncos’ QB derby

Nice story Siemian - from @SpringStein's fav reporter.

Yes. It's the time of year for the team to beef up trade values on players through their minions.

He's a Bronco, so hope for the best!

 

[58crash]

Kubiak: Don't sleep on Siemian to win starting QB job

 

[CEH]

Kubiak: Don't sleep on Siemian to win starting QB job

Then jettison Sanchez and his $4.5 mm contract to pay Miller if Sanchez can't beat out a 7th rounder.