2016 Mock Draft

[PhoenixEagles1]

My concerns with this is injuries. Will Jack stay injury free, we already know Lee has a hard time doing so.
I'd probably regret doing so in a few years, but I'd pass on Jack at 4. Trade back and steal him a few picks later and I'll be more inclined to pick him.

Makes sense. Wonder if Philly would trade up to the Cowboys spot and land Wentz/Goff. THey've swapped in round 1 before.

 

[Manster7588]

Makes sense. Wonder if Philly would trade up to the Cowboys spot and land Wentz/Goff. THey've swapped in round 1 before.

It would take the 8th and both 3rds just to break even. I'd think Philly would want to make the trade more than Dallas, because I think Dallas may just want Wentz themselves.

 

[jarntt]

Dallas could go so many ways but if I was a fan I'd go Jack. I cant say I watched him play but what I read about him is that he is an elite coverage LBer. Sean Lee might be the best coverage LBer in the NFL right now. It would be such a huge advantage to have 2 great coverage LBers in todays pass first NFL.

But Ramsey with Scandrick coming back and last years #1 out of UConn would be pretty dope too.

Probably the best defensive and maybe best player in the draft. But is he healthy?

 

[jarntt]

My concerns with this is injuries. Will Jack stay injury free, we already know Lee has a hard time doing so.
I'd probably regret doing so in a few years, but I'd pass on Jack at 4. Trade back and steal him a few picks later and I'll be more inclined to pick him.

Agree, but my concern isnt injuries in general, but rather just this one. This is going to sound like semantics, but let me try to make my point. I'm not worried about him getting injured over and over like Lee. It's just can he get over this one injury and be the same player? Unlike Lee he hasn't exhibited enough separate or recurring injuries to get the "can't stay healthy" tag. But,this current medical may make me pass on him based on how he checks out at a private workout.

Jack to me comes down to how much better you think he is than guys like Ramsey or Bosa. If you think he is a lot better you probably take him. If you think it's close or the others are better you pass. The others fill a bigger need on the team as well. So there are two reasons to bypass Jack for the others.

 

[jarntt]

Now a similar but more severe case is Jaylon Smith because of the nerve damage. A lot of people are thinking he goes undrafted. I don;t see any way that happens. He is just too good. Our late picks stink anyway. Might as well take a flier...

Jaylon Smith - LB - Player
Notre Dame LB Jaylon Smith (ACL, LCL) says his rehab is "going great."

"I am leg-pressing over 600 pounds right now," Smith said. "I am squatting over 400 pounds. I am getting that strength back. It’s just a matter of time." It's good news after Smith's gruesome Fiesta Bowl injury, but the Combine medical recheck looms extremely large for his draft stock. It's there that teams will determine the extent of his nerve damage in addition to his torn ligaments. Once a potential top-10 pick, Smith is in danger of a draft weekend free-fall.

 

[cowboycolors]

Now a similar but more severe case is Jaylon Smith because of the nerve damage. A lot of people are thinking he goes undrafted. I don;t see any way that happens. He is just too good. Our late picks stink anyway. Might as well take a flier...

Jaylon Smith - LB - Player
Notre Dame LB Jaylon Smith (ACL, LCL) says his rehab is "going great."

"I am leg-pressing over 600 pounds right now," Smith said. "I am squatting over 400 pounds. I am getting that strength back. It’s just a matter of time." It's good news after Smith's gruesome Fiesta Bowl injury, but the Combine medical recheck looms extremely large for his draft stock. It's there that teams will determine the extent of his nerve damage in addition to his torn ligaments. Once a potential top-10 pick, Smith is in danger of a draft weekend free-fall.

unless his knee is just toast I don't see him falling out of the 2nd round but some think he is a day 4 player

I cant see that but if so I take the flyer on him and let him heal as long as needed

 

[Manster7588]

unless his knee is just toast I don't see him falling out of the 2nd round but some think he is a day 4 player

I cant see that but if so I take the flyer on him and let him heal as long as needed

That's our MO, so it's not out of the question.

 

[jarntt]

unless his knee is just toast I don't see him falling out of the 2nd round but some think he is a day 4 player

I cant see that but if so I take the flyer on him and let him heal as long as needed

I can't even guess where I think he goes. But, I would be surprised if he goes in the first or second round unless his follow up Medical shows A LOT of improvement...

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

please no more trading with philly. If ramsey gone I would not be against trading with niners.

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

I know I am changing subject here,but would love to see bosa send Bradford out on stretcher

 

[tylerTX88]

I know I am changing subject here,but would love to see bosa send Bradford out on stretcher

You must make money for each player injured. You are always rooting for injuries and dismemberment.
Strange way to enjoy football.

 

[UK Cowboy]

In the 32 team NFL Draft we start Monday on the Mock thread, I traded up to #1 to get Wentz. I came out +800 on the pick/point scale, gave up my 2nd but got back the first pick of round 3 . I know Wentz wouldn't help us as much next season as Ramsey would, but I think we'd be better off shoring up QB long term. Could turn around and trade #1 for another package, say a 1 and a 2 and I'd end up netting a high 3ed, but it's hard to pass Wentz....

 

[Bmurph]

Interesting 5 potential CB's going RD 1

1.

TEN
Laremy Tunsil

OT

Ole Miss

2.

CLE
Carson Wentz

QB

North Dakota State
3.

SD
Jalen Ramsey

CB/S

Florida State

4.

DAL
Joey Bosa

DE

Ohio State

5.

JAC
Myles Jack

OLB

UCLA

6.

BAL
DeForest Buckner

DT/DE

Oregon

7.

SF
Jared Goff

QB

CAL

8.

PHI
Ezekiel Elliot

RB

Ohio State

9.

TB
Vernon Hargreaves

CB

Florida

10.

NYG
Ronnie Stanley

OT

Notre Dame

11.

CHI
Leonard Floyd

OLB

Georgia

12.

NO
A’Shawn Robinson

DT

Alabama

13.

MIA
Eli Apple

CB

Ohio State

14.

OAK
William Jackson II

CB

Houston

15.

LA
Paxton Lynch

QB

Memphis

16.

DET
Jack Conklin

OT

Michigan State

17.

ATL
Shaq Lawson

DE

Clemson

18.

IND
Taylor Decker

OT

Ohio State

19.

BUF
Kevin Dodd

DE

Clemson

20.

NYJ
Darron Lee

OLB

Ohio State

21.

WAS
Sheldon Rankins

DT

Louisville

22.

HOU
Laquon Treadwell

WR

Ole Miss

23.

MIN
Will Fuller

DT

Notre Dame

24.

CIN
Corey Coleman

WR

Baylor

25.

PIT
Mackensie Alexander

CB

Clemson

26.

SEA
Andrew Billings

DT

Baylor
27.

GB
Jarran Reed

DT

Alabama

28.

KC
Josh Doctson

WR

TCU

29.

ARI
Noah Spence

DE

Eastern Kentucky

30.

CAR
Su’a Cravens

LB/S

USC

31.

DEN
Robert Nkemdiche

DT/DE

Ole Miss

 

[jarntt]

Interesting 5 potential CB's going RD 1

1.

TEN
Laremy Tunsil

OT

Ole Miss

2.

CLE
Carson Wentz

QB

North Dakota State
3.

SD
Jalen Ramsey

CB/S

Florida State

4.

DAL
Joey Bosa

DE

Ohio State

5.

JAC
Myles Jack

OLB

UCLA

6.

BAL
DeForest Buckner

DT/DE

Oregon

7.

SF
Jared Goff

QB

CAL

8.

PHI
Ezekiel Elliot

RB

Ohio State

9.

TB
Vernon Hargreaves

CB

Florida

10.

NYG
Ronnie Stanley

OT

Notre Dame

11.

CHI
Leonard Floyd

OLB

Georgia

12.

NO
A’Shawn Robinson

DT

Alabama

13.

MIA
Eli Apple

CB

Ohio State

14.

OAK
William Jackson II

CB

Houston

15.

LA
Paxton Lynch

QB

Memphis

16.

DET
Jack Conklin

OT

Michigan State

17.

ATL
Shaq Lawson

DE

Clemson

18.

IND
Taylor Decker

OT

Ohio State

19.

BUF
Kevin Dodd

DE

Clemson

20.

NYJ
Darron Lee

OLB

Ohio State

21.

WAS
Sheldon Rankins

DT

Louisville

22.

HOU
Laquon Treadwell

WR

Ole Miss

23.

MIN
Will Fuller

DT

Notre Dame

24.

CIN
Corey Coleman

WR

Baylor

25.

PIT
Mackensie Alexander

CB

Clemson

26.

SEA
Andrew Billings

DT

Baylor
27.

GB
Jarran Reed

DT

Alabama

28.

KC
Josh Doctson

WR

TCU

29.

ARI
Noah Spence

DE

Eastern Kentucky

30.

CAR
Su’a Cravens

LB/S

USC

31.

DEN
Robert Nkemdiche

DT/DE

Ole Miss

Can you try to format that post so it's just a little bit longer? I'd like it if it actually reaches the floor...

 

[Bmurph]

Can you try to format that post so it's just a little bit longer? I'd like it if it actually reaches the floor...

Not sure why tf it turned out like that, I just copied and pasted it from the NFLTR site and thats how it turned out. Wasn't near that long on that site obviously. I probably should have edited the length but....screw it. It wasn't worth that much effort.

 

[jarntt]

Not sure why tf it turned out like that, I just copied and pasted it from the NFLTR site and thats how it turned out. Wasn't near that long on that site obviously. I probably should have edited the length but....screw it. It wasn't worth that much effort.

I was just kidding. I'm on PC so just scroll down. TLDR though

 

[bigdaddytorr]

1) San Francisco - Carson Wentz, QB ***Trade w/Ten***
2) Dallas - Jalen Ramsey, CB/S ***Trade w/Cle***
3) San Diego - Laremy Tunsil, OT
4) Cleveland - Joey Bosa, DE/OLB ***Trade w/Dal
5) Jacksonville - Myles Jack, OLB
6) Baltimore - Deforest Buckner, DE/DT
7) Tennessee - Ronnie Stanley, OT
8) Philadelphia - Shaq Lawson, DE
9) Tampa Bay - Vernon Hargreaves, CB
10) New York Giants - Ezekiel Elliot, RB
11) Los Angeles - Jared Goff, QB ***Trade w/CHI***
12) New Orleans - Laquan Treadwell, WR
13) Indianapolis - Jack Conklin, OT ***Trade w/MIA***
14) Oakland - Eli Apple, CB
15) Chicago - Leonard Floyd, OLB ***Trade with LA***
16) Detroit - Sheldon Rankins, DT
17) Atlanta - Reggie Ragland, ILB
18) Miami - William Jackson III ***Trade w/IND***
19) Buffalo - A'Shawn Robinson, DT
20) New York Jets - Mackenzie Alexander, CB
21) Washington - Andrew Billings, NT
22) Houston - Corey Coleman, WR
23) Minnesota - Josh Doctson, WR
24) Cincinnati - William Fuller, WR
25) Pittsburgh - Jarran Reed, NT
26) Seattle - Taylor Decker, OT
27) Green Bay - Darron Lee, OLB
28) Kansas City - Jason Spriggs, OT
29) Arizona - Paxton Lynch, QB
30) Carolina - Germain Ifedi, OG
31) Denver - Carl Nassib, DE

 

[Manster7588]

1) San Francisco - Carson Wentz, QB ***Trade w/Ten***
2) Dallas - Jalen Ramsey, CB/S ***Trade w/Cle***
3) San Diego - Laremy Tunsil, OT
4) Cleveland - Joey Bosa, DE/OLB ***Trade w/Dal
5) Jacksonville - Myles Jack, OLB
6) Baltimore - Deforest Buckner, DE/DT
7) Tennessee - Ronnie Stanley, OT
8) Philadelphia - Shaq Lawson, DE
9) Tampa Bay - Vernon Hargreaves, CB
10) New York Giants - Ezekiel Elliot, RB
11) Los Angeles - Jared Goff, QB ***Trade w/CHI***
12) New Orleans - Laquan Treadwell, WR
13) Indianapolis - Jack Conklin, OT ***Trade w/MIA***
14) Oakland - Eli Apple, CB
15) Chicago - Leonard Floyd, OLB ***Trade with LA***
16) Detroit - Sheldon Rankins, DT
17) Atlanta - Reggie Ragland, ILB
18) Miami - William Jackson III ***Trade w/IND***
19) Buffalo - A'Shawn Robinson, DT
20) New York Jets - Mackenzie Alexander, CB
21) Washington - Andrew Billings, NT
22) Houston - Corey Coleman, WR
23) Minnesota - Josh Doctson, WR
24) Cincinnati - William Fuller, WR
25) Pittsburgh - Jarran Reed, NT
26) Seattle - Taylor Decker, OT
27) Green Bay - Darron Lee, OLB
28) Kansas City - Jason Spriggs, OT
29) Arizona - Paxton Lynch, QB
30) Carolina - Germain Ifedi, OG
31) Denver - Carl Nassib, DE

I hope Dallas isn't trading up for anyone. I rather have Hargreaves and the round two pick over Ramsey

 

[jarntt]

I hope Dallas isn't trading up for anyone. I rather have Hargreaves and the round two pick over Ramsey

Agree. If they trade up for a CB they better think he is Revis. Last time we did that it didn't work out so well...

 

[UK Cowboy]

Agree. If they trade up for a CB they better think he is Revis. Last time we did that it didn't work out so well...

The only person I would trade up for is Wentz. He's not going to be there at 4, and I believe Dallas would be a perfect spot for him to develop into an all pro. He has every tool. In Dallas, he could sit a couple of years, then come in behind the best OL in the league, after learning from one of the best in the business for a couple of years. Otherwise, we have enough holes that anyone else we get at 4 will help