2016-17 NBA Regular Season Thread

[Wamu]

Breaking news...

Lonzo's dad now saying he'll have a better career than Magic.

 

[WiggyRuss]

The Kings and 76ers ending up top 3 is the only chance we have to get Ball. I'd be very happy with that pick, he's a great player. I just want him on a team not named the Lakers so his dad can be upset.

if the Lakers dont keep their pick obviously there is ZERO chance he ends up a Laker....all comes down to lotto night and who has the most ping pong balls in the hopper and who gets lucky!!!

that will be a fun night

itll either be elation or devastation! lol.

 

[Wamu]

Lonzo Ball's dad must have a helluva crack dealer.

So do you & Lonzo's pops get yer rocks from the same dealer?

 

[trojanfan12]

Lonzo Ball's dad must have a helluva crack dealer.

The dude needs to understand that he's not doing his son any favors. Players will target him for the stuff his Dad is saying.

I'm all for supporting and believing in your kid, but you gotta know when to just shut the hell up and be a little humble.

 

[trojanfan12]

I guess it's a good time to say that I haven't been serious about anything I've said about Kyrie Irving in the last half hour. Just playing the role of an Irving fanboy.

To truly pull it off, you need to use more words...lots and lots of words. lol

 

[WiggyRuss]

This post completely ignores the fact that he has had at least 2 occurrences and when he took his last physical in an attempt to return, there had been another event that pointed to a potential 3rd clotting issue. In other words, it's not going away.

This post also ignores that all clotting issues are not the same. Just because a couple of other players had those issues and were able to recover, doesn't mean Bosh's situation is the same.

It's amazing the some who claims to be "ridiculously more informed than anyone on these boards" can't grasp those simple facts.

actually it DIRECTLY addresses those-

I mean- how much clearer can you get then saying "it depends on the severity and probability of a recurrence"

plenty of guys have played in the NBA after having blood clot issues- it just depends on how serious they are- and the probability that they re-occur. It cant get any more clear than that.

How can you possibly say "its not going away"? are you a doctor? have you looked at reports?

obviously since bosh has had multiple episodes his chance of a reoccurence is higher than a guy who has only had one issue---- but to say just because he has had multiple occurrences that "its not going away" is based on nothing but opinion. He might have a higher probability- and probably does- but to definitively say "its not going away" playing armchair doctor is asinine.

 

[Wamu]

The dude needs to understand that he's not doing his son any favors. Players will target him for the stuff his Dad is saying.

I'm all for supporting and believing in your kid, but you gotta know when to just shut the hell up and be a little humble.

Yeah someone really needs to tell Lonzo's dad to shut the hell up.

 

[WiggyRuss]

So do you & Lonzo's pops get yer rocks from the same dealer?

theres something you dont know about me joe rogan.....

 

[Wamu]

theres something you dont know about me joe rogan.....

What don't I know about you, that you have a life size cutout of LeBron in your kitchen?

 

[WiggyRuss]

I'm good with that. If the Kings win the lottery and the 76ers make the top 3, that would I think lock the 76ers in to two top 5 picks this year.

that would be ridiculous.

either the 76'ers or Lakers are gonna be REALLY happy on lotto night....i cant wait to see what happens.

I think if the Lakers finish with the 2nd worst record in the league they have a 55% of keeping their pick if i am not mistaken.

if they have the 3rd worst record i think it falls to about 40%. A lot on hte line- especially in such a loaded draft.

 

[trojanfan12]

actually it DIRECTLY addresses those-

I mean- how much clearer can you get then saying "it depends on the severity and probability of a recurrence"

plenty of guys have played in the NBA after having blood clot issues- it just depends on how serious they are- and the probability that they re-occur. It cant get any more clear than that.

How can you possibly say "its not going away"? are you a doctor? have you looked at reports?

obviously since bosh has had multiple episodes his chance of a reoccurence is higher than a guy who has only had one issue---- but to say just because he has had multiple occurrences that "its not going away" is based on nothing but opinion. He might have a higher probability- and probably does- but to definitively say "its not going away" playing armchair doctor is asinine.

I can easily say it's not going away because it hasn't, doctors have said it isn't going away and that to play in the NBA would put his life at risk. It can be any clearer than that. If there were any chance that Bosh could play, the Heat would have activated him and either played him or traded him. The fact that zero NBA teams have been willing to take a chance on a player of his ability tells you all you need to know.

You post this shit about Bosh just to pick fights and you've been warned repeatedly about it. I'd suggest you drop it.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I'm good with that. If the Kings win the lottery and the 76ers make the top 3, that would I think lock the 76ers in to two top 5 picks this year.

thats kinda fucked up if you ask me

if the Lakers finish with the 2nd worst record- its basically a coin flip if they keep a top 3 pick...that seems kinda messed up....not a top 2 pick, a top 3 pick....you would think there would be a higher probability than basically a coin flip to keep get at least the 3rd pick- if they are once again the 2nd worst team in the league.

if they finish 3rd worst- that means they have LESS than a 50% chance...46% actually.....to keep a top 3 pick- basically another coin flip.

with the way they are playing- id prob expect them to stay in the basement of the West- but its not like the Suns or kings are winning very many games either.

obviously they wont finish as the worst team with the Nets holding the top claim there by a fair margin.

 

[knowyourenemy]

thats kinda fucked up if you ask me

if the Lakers finish with the 2nd worst record- its basically a coin flip if they keep a top 3 pick...that seems kinda messed up....not a top 2 pick, a top 3 pick....you would think there would be a higher probability than basically a coin flip to keep get at least the 3rd pick- if they are once again the 2nd worst team in the league.

if they finish 3rd worst- that means they have LESS than a 50% chance...

with the way they are playing- id prob expect them to stay in the basement of the West- but its not like the Suns or kings are winning very many games either

Yeah, that's why you don't trade away draft picks like they did. More messed up is Brooklyn. They already gave up the 3rd overall pick last year and will probably lose two more top 3 picks in the next two years . . . all because they wanted Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett, who both ended up playing like 1 season for them.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Yeah, that's why you don't trade away draft picks like they did. More messed up is Brooklyn. They already gave up the 3rd overall pick last year and will probably lose two more top 3 picks in the next two years . . . all because they wanted Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett, who both ended up playing like 1 season for them.

that trade literally killed their franchise for a probably a decade.

trading lightly protected picks so far into the future is DANGEROUS business and it can really come back to haunt you.

there is nothing worse than having just an awful, abysmal team, and then not even have a top pick- especially in a draft that is just freaking loaded at the top like this years.

The Sixers are sitting pretty. At the very least they will have their own pick- and might get lucky with their pick swap with the kings- and of course- maybe getting the lakers pick.

Id sign up for that as a fan- having Simmons, Embiid, Saric, Covington, Okafor etc....plus 2 top 5 picks....and a BOATLOAD of cap room.

they just gotta transition from asset acquisition to team building here soon.

 

[knowyourenemy]

Yeah, that's why you don't trade away draft picks like they did. More messed up is Brooklyn. They already gave up the 3rd overall pick last year and will probably lose two more top 3 picks in the next two years . . . all because they wanted Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett, who both ended up playing like 1 season for them.

Shoot, and a 1st rounder a couple years ago that became one of the Celtics' guards. I forgot who.

 

[trojanfan12]

thats kinda fucked up if you ask me

if the Lakers finish with the 2nd worst record- its basically a coin flip if they keep a top 3 pick...that seems kinda messed up....not a top 2 pick, a top 3 pick....you would think there would be a higher probability than basically a coin flip to keep get at least the 3rd pick- if they are once again the 2nd worst team in the league.

if they finish 3rd worst- that means they have LESS than a 50% chance...46% actually.....to keep a top 3 pick- basically another coin flip.

with the way they are playing- id prob expect them to stay in the basement of the West- but its not like the Suns or kings are winning very many games either.

obviously they wont finish as the worst team with the Nets holding the top claim there by a fair margin.

I really wish the NBA would just go back to the team with the worst record picks first and we go in order from there. This lottery crap, which was supposed to end or severely curtail tanking, hasn't seemed to do so. If anything, it's made the NBA look worse than they would having teams tank because now, along with teams tanking, they get the conspiracy theories of rigged results.

Imagine what will be said if Magic shows up on lottery night and the Lakers get the #1 pick?

 

[TJL]

Dear Lonzo's Dad,

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

I'm getting a bit sick of the lottery now. Even if by some miracle the Lakers do hold on to a top 3 pick, i'd damn well hope they trade it in a package for a star player.

 

[Wamu]

Imagine what will be said if Magic shows up on lottery night and the Lakers get the #1 pick?

If Magic's there on lottery night & the Lakers get the # 1 pick there's not question it was rigged. But it's not like the league hasn't rigged the lottery for teams in the past. Just look @ the '03 draft. I think the Celtics deserve the # 1 pick though.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I'm getting a bit sick of the lottery now. Even if by some miracle the Lakers do hold on to a top 3 pick, i'd damn well hope they trade it in a package for a star player.

shit...it wont be by some miracle- its basically a 50/50 shot if you are either in 2nd or 3rd position- and with how craptastic the Lakers are- i dont see them climbing to 4th, do you?

this is DEF. NOT the year to trade it for a star.

trade ingram or russell for a star if you can manage- this is the year you draft a potential franchise changer in the top 3 (shit even top 6-7)