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Only one person here can't see that. Drummond is fine but he looks like the same player he was last year. I don't see any real improvement

But but but Drummond has yet to hit his prime yet herpa derpa.

Even though it's possible that some players just have their respective ceilings and hit it at different times.
 

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Only one person here can't see that. Drummond is fine but he looks like the same player he was last year. I don't see any real improvement


I have no idea what Drummond did this summer, but I do know where Whiteside was, and it shows.
 

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I have no idea what Drummond did this summer, but I do know where Whiteside was, and it shows.

But but but Whiteside was blackballed (have no idea what that means) from the league like 5 years ago. - Wiggy
 

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Warriors have been fortunate to miss some opposing players, out injured: Paul George, Horford, etc.
 

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@Mecca, very nice win for the Clippers last night. Toronto played really well too. You guys are cruising.
 

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Whiteside put up great stats last year too.

How predicatable though- where do you find him at the end of the game? on the bench.

I cant imagine how bad i would get crushed if i would jump on here and brag about kyrie's stats 3 years ago in a LOSS against the Sixers. You have to be embarrassed deep down dont you?

He was on the bench for 1 minute. Find me one time this season he was on the bench late in the 4th of a close game due to something other than foul trouble . I dare you.
 

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Once again it is another case of wiggy not watching one minute of a game and making ridiculous statements . Whiteside was the only thing good about Miami last night and was the only reason they had a chance to win.
 

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And for the record nobody would have cared if you bragged about kyrie stats 3 years ago when the cavs were irrelevant . Cavs only became intolerable when Lebron went back there.

Yes Heat fans are and will continue to brag about Whiteside stats. We get to watch Hassan get better and better each game and put up more insane numbers to put his team in position to win on most nights. Next step for him is to quit picking up touch fouls
 

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And for the record nobody would have cared if you bragged about kyrie stats 3 years ago when the cavs were irrelevant . Cavs only became intolerable when Lebron went back there.

Yes Heat fans are and will continue to brag about Whiteside stats. We get to watch Hassan get better and better each game and put up more insane numbers to put his team in position to win on most nights. Next step for him is to quit picking up touch fouls
i just thought it was kinda funny to hear you talk about how difficult the Heat's schedule was- and then lose to the Sixers a few hours later. That- and - as i said- Whiteside put up great stats last year at times- after losing Wade, Joe Johnson, Bosh in the entirety and basically having no legitmate power forward- it does not surprise me that Whiteside is putting up big stats. However, it is also not surprising to me that those stats have not translated to winning from "the most dominant center in the game".

And you are right- it sure seems like Johnson and Richardson combining to go 2/18 from the field probably didnt help things. I think Richardson is learning that its a lot harder to make a 3 when the defense actually focuses on you instead of doubling off you to guard players like Wade, Joe Johnson, etc....obviously its early- but shooting 32.6% from 3 isnt very good.

I know i know....Whiteside cant do it all himself right, even though he is "the most dominant center in the game"....i just think that would be worth more.

I look at houston- with probably the most dominant shooting guard in the game- James Harden- and really some decent guys- but its not like he has a ton of help- Ryan Anderosn, Clint Capela, Trevor Ariza , KJ McDaniels, Beverely (who just started playing again).....and the "most dominant sg in the game" sure seems to have an impact.

Hell- id probably take Dragic over anyone on the Rockets not named Harden....At this point in their careers Justice Winslow just might be next on that list- or close to it at the very least.
 

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i just thought it was kinda funny to hear you talk about how difficult the Heat's schedule was- and then lose to the Sixers a few hours later. That- and - as i said- Whiteside put up great stats last year at times- after losing Wade, Joe Johnson, Bosh in the entirety and basically having no legitmate power forward- it does not surprise me that Whiteside is putting up big stats. However, it is also not surprising to me that those stats have not translated to winning from "the most dominant center in the game".

And you are right- it sure seems like Johnson and Richardson combining to go 2/18 from the field probably didnt help things. I think Richardson is learning that its a lot harder to make a 3 when the defense actually focuses on you instead of doubling off you to guard players like Wade, Joe Johnson, etc....obviously its early- but shooting 32.6% from 3 isnt very good.

I know i know....Whiteside cant do it all himself right, even though he is "the most dominant center in the game"....i just think that would be worth more.

I look at houston- with probably the most dominant shooting guard in the game- James Harden- and really some decent guys- but its not like he has a ton of help- Ryan Anderosn, Clint Capela, Trevor Ariza , KJ McDaniels, Beverely (who just started playing again).....and the "most dominant sg in the game" sure seems to have an impact.

Hell- id probably take Dragic over anyone on the Rockets not named Harden....At this point in their careers Justice Winslow just might be next on that list- or close to it at the very least.




You continue to try to deflect, but once again, the Heat are SUPPOSED to be bad this year.
Bosh situation guaranteed that.

That, though, has ZERO to do with what a force Whiteside has become.
You act like his stats are just handed to him, which is really the opposite of the truth being opponents pretty much focus their energy on trying to stop him.

As far as the Heat schedule, fact is, it has been the leagues most difficult but that doesn't mean we can't lose to anyone, on any night, especially on the road. Thing is, we don't care. As far as I'm concerned, the more losses the better because anyone with a brain can see if will only help this summer.

I'm/we're all here still waiting for you to rationalize how Whiteside losing while being on a bad team means so much as being a negative towards him when all the other supposed top centers you name are on what are supposed to be much more polished teams trying to win now, yet they continue to lose (Cousins, Drummond, etc..)


You comparing Harden to Whiteside shows just how desperate you are.
Do I really need to explain it to you?

Lastly, let's see your list of more dominating centers so far.
Should be interesting.

Mine leads or is near the top of the league in almost every single statistical category.
 

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Whiteside put up great stats last year too.

How predicatable though- where do you find him at the end of the game? on the bench.

I cant imagine how bad i would get crushed if i would jump on here and brag about kyrie's stats 3 years ago in a LOSS against the Sixers. You have to be embarrassed deep down dont you?


Didn't the Cavs come very close to losing in Philly this year while playing a full strength?
 

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i just thought it was kinda funny to hear you talk about how difficult the Heat's schedule was- and then lose to the Sixers a few hours later. That- and - as i said- Whiteside put up great stats last year at times- after losing Wade, Joe Johnson, Bosh in the entirety and basically having no legitmate power forward- it does not surprise me that Whiteside is putting up big stats. However, it is also not surprising to me that those stats have not translated to winning from "the most dominant center in the game".

And you are right- it sure seems like Johnson and Richardson combining to go 2/18 from the field probably didnt help things. I think Richardson is learning that its a lot harder to make a 3 when the defense actually focuses on you instead of doubling off you to guard players like Wade, Joe Johnson, etc....obviously its early- but shooting 32.6% from 3 isnt very good.

I know i know....Whiteside cant do it all himself right, even though he is "the most dominant center in the game"....i just think that would be worth more.

I look at houston- with probably the most dominant shooting guard in the game- James Harden- and really some decent guys- but its not like he has a ton of help- Ryan Anderosn, Clint Capela, Trevor Ariza , KJ McDaniels, Beverely (who just started playing again).....and the "most dominant sg in the game" sure seems to have an impact.

Hell- id probably take Dragic over anyone on the Rockets not named Harden....At this point in their careers Justice Winslow just might be next on that list- or close to it at the very least.

It was a difficult schedule. I never once said they would all of sudden go on some long win streak because the schedule got a little softer. Fact is in their first 12 games they had the hardest schedule in the league. Nothing is going to come easy for this team especially on the road. Every game will be a challenge. Doesn't change the fact that they had the toughest schedule in the first 12 games.

Comparing a dominant Shooting Guard to a dominant Center just shows your lack of basketball IQ. Everyone knows it is easier to dominant as a PG, SG, or SF because the ball is always in your hands. Very stupid comparison but coming from you it is not surprising.
 

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