2014 free agents

[Warpath]

In the end, yeah the Cowboys will likely do what they can to keep Lee. But being tight against the cap the way they are right now, they will definitely have to find ways to create space. In order to keep Lee and to add components that they need elsewhere on the team, they'll have to push cap into future years. This is what the Redskins had to do for years.

 

[skinsdad62]

In the end, yeah the Cowboys will likely do what they can to keep Lee. But being tight against the cap the way they are right now, they will definitely have to find ways to create space. In order to keep Lee and to add components that they need elsewhere on the team, they'll have to push cap into future years. This is what the Redskins had to do for years.

warpath , this guy isnt interested in the facts . he is lost in cowboy idolization .

i gave him names and he changes the parameters of the debate

 

[j_y19]

The Cowboys may well turn over 7-10 players over 2 years, but every team does that. Thats a lot different than HAVING to cut 7 players to resign Lee. Besides, the cap will be taking a nice spike in a couple of years because of the new tv deal, the sky isn't falling

This is just not true. Teams that have managed the cap well don't have to jettison 7-10 quality players every year. As an example, we only lost one guy this year because of the cap. We didnt have to restructure any contracts, although a few guys took a paycut because they wanted to be part of this organization.

The cowboys are going to have to cut a bunch in the next 2 years. That's just to get under the cap. Then you are going to have to restructure a bunch more to sign a guy like lee. You will have nothing left to sign any new free agents. If you don't win it this year, you will be rebuilding starting next year......with a new coach.

 

[j_y19]

UK.....this explains your situation

5 Teams Facing Dire Salary Cap Situations in 2014 | Bleacher Report

 

[skinsdad62]

UK.....this explains your situation

5 Teams Facing Dire Salary Cap Situations in 2014 | Bleacher Report

those awful stinking facts lurking about again

 

[UK Cowboy]

UK.....this explains your situation

5 Teams Facing Dire Salary Cap Situations in 2014 | Bleacher Report

3 takeaways that make this a fail
1) May 22
2) Estimated
3) Bleacher Report

3 months ago, Bleacher Report might have estimated that 2 squirts of duck urine could cure chickenpox

 

[j_y19]

3 takeaways that make this a fail
1) May 22
2) Estimated
3) Bleacher Report

3 months ago, Bleacher Report might have estimated that 2 squirts of duck urine could cure chickenpox

So what significantly has changed since May 22? Its a known fact that you guys have committed over $143M in cap for 2014 and the "estimated" part is where will the cap level be. Most are estimating it around $125M give or take a few Mil. So you guys have to cut somewhere in the neighborhood of $20m (give or take a few Mil) of existing talent just to get at the cap for next year. Then, if you want to sign Lee, you'll need to cut another $5-6M to make room for his new contract. You will also have to make room for your draft picks. Any other FAs are out of the question. So really, you guys need to free up around $25M next year. How ya gonna do that?

 

[skinsdad62]

3 takeaways that make this a fail
1) May 22
2) Estimated
3) Bleacher Report

3 months ago, Bleacher Report might have estimated that 2 squirts of duck urine could cure chickenpox

and they are wrong how here ?

 

[skinsdad62]

3 takeaways that make this a fail
1) May 22
2) Estimated
3) Bleacher Report

3 months ago, Bleacher Report might have estimated that 2 squirts of duck urine could cure chickenpox

» Over the Cap- Dallas Cowboys 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts

read it and weep

 

[UK Cowboy]

» Over the Cap- Dallas Cowboys 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts

read it and weep

Obviously, you don't understand how the salary cap works. I see $45-50 million in restructures and cuts that could be made without losing a starter. Not to mention the cap is a year away from a huge spike. Considering the Skins cap looked like this a few years back, and everyone said the couldn't sign anyone, just before Snyder went out and signed every FA on the market. An owner like Snyder or Jones, who are willing to front the money to convert salary into signing bonus and divide that number out are never in cap Hell. You really should pay attention

 

[j_y19]

Obviously, you don't understand how the salary cap works. I see $45-50 million in restructures and cuts that could be made without losing a starter. Not to mention the cap is a year away from a huge spike. Considering the Skins cap looked like this a few years back, and everyone said the couldn't sign anyone, just before Snyder went out and signed every FA on the market. An owner like Snyder or Jones, who are willing to front the money to convert salary into signing bonus and divide that number out are never in cap Hell. You really should pay attention

I can only tell you that the rest of the NFCE pray that is what Jerry decides to do. Restructure and grow that cap issue for the future. What would be a 2-4 year rebuilding process would turn into a decade long piss poor team. You know how I know? That's what Snyder did for his first 10 years until Allen/Shanahan came along and put a stop to it.

 

[Warpath]

Obviously, you don't understand how the salary cap works. I see $45-50 million in restructures and cuts that could be made without losing a starter. Not to mention the cap is a year away from a huge spike. Considering the Skins cap looked like this a few years back, and everyone said the couldn't sign anyone, just before Snyder went out and signed every FA on the market. An owner like Snyder or Jones, who are willing to front the money to convert salary into signing bonus and divide that number out are never in cap Hell. You really should pay attention

We have been paying attention. The only reason the Redskins are about to be out of cap hell was due to the uncapped year. They unloaded Haynesworth, and they were penalized for it. Cap hell being that the Redskins couldn't do much as far as signing free agents over the past two seasons and lost a player this year that they would have rather kept. This year, we could not sign anyone.

There isn't another uncapped year coming. Eventually, the collector does come calling. We as Redskin fans can attest to that from experience. Cowboys are in the same boat this year. When you need to sign players in free agency and can't, or start losing players you want to keep due to the cap, that is cap hell.

 

[UK Cowboy]

» Over the Cap- Dallas Cowboys 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts

read it and weep

 

[UK Cowboy]

If Lee has a good year this year how can the Cowboys sign him? He is going to command a huge contract b/c of his age and ability. Aren't the Cowboys in cap hell with the Romo signing? I think we have more cap room than the Cowboys next year. We could really stick it to Dallas next year if we sign Lee.

 

[UK Cowboy]

In most cases for free agents it comes down to money. The Redskins will have over 35 million in cap space next year while the Cowboys will have to restructure, cut and push cap into future years to have a chance at keeping Lee.

IF the Redskins want Lee, they can certainly make things very difficult for the Cowboys. And at the minimum, drive up the price for a Cowboy team that has serious salary cap issues.

 

[skinsdad62]

Obviously, you don't understand how the salary cap works. I see $45-50 million in restructures and cuts that could be made without losing a starter. Not to mention the cap is a year away from a huge spike. Considering the Skins cap looked like this a few years back, and everyone said the couldn't sign anyone, just before Snyder went out and signed every FA on the market. An owner like Snyder or Jones, who are willing to front the money to convert salary into signing bonus and divide that number out are never in cap Hell. You really should pay attention

and in the end you will be forced to let go of players do to the cap be it next season the following one or the one after that

and if you were up on our cap you would know that we jetisoned a lot of players because of the cap and didnt sign guys we wanted too because of it

now in your situation you cant "front load contracts " because you are going to be 25 mil over before you have done one thing . you will have to back load contracts and you will have to cut guys like free and scandrick to get below the cap to sign draft picks and perhaps resign a dez bryant or a spencer

cutting back ups simply wont do

and we will see what you have to say a year from now (if you arent banned 1st ) and how your tune is changed

the saving grace for you is if you draft well this can be mitigated

 

[UK Cowboy]

and in the end you will be forced to let go of players do to the cap be it next season the following one or the one after that

and if you were up on our cap you would know that we jetisoned a lot of players because of the cap and didnt sign guys we wanted too because of it

now in your situation you cant "front load contracts " because you are going to be 25 mil over before you have done one thing . you will have to back load contracts and you will have to cut guys like free and scandrick to get below the cap to sign draft picks and perhaps resign a dez bryant or a spencer

cutting back ups simply wont do

and we will see what you have to say a year from now (if you arent banned 1st ) and how your tune is changed

the saving grace for you is if you draft well this can be mitigated

You may be right, but cutting some of those vet's is exactly what we should be doing anyway. Dallas has been drafting and adding younger players at a much better clip the last 3-4 years. They have several young players that are their foundation. Tyron Smith, Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, Dez Bryant, Mo Claiborne, DeMarco Murray, and other kids that look good in Crawford, Fredrick, Wilber, and Terrance Williams. With guys like Romo, Witten, and Ware always willing to redo their deals to help with the cap, the players who are really in trouble next year for Dallas are Austin, Free, Rat, etc, which if we continue to draft well, is no problem