Series Thread: 2) Cleveland Cavaliers vs 7) Indiana Pacers

[WiggyRuss]

No doubt, Cavs are a good team. Too bad you've already conceded their upcoming Finals loss to the Warriors. Still, very good team.

i havent conceded anything.

I will concede the WArriors are the favorite--- but they were teh favorite last years as well.

no matter what happens- you need things to break your way in the NBA playoffs here or there....if tonight/next week/whenever- Durant goes out and aggravates his calf and cant move - goodnight irene.

if LeBron hurts his knee and is out a couple weeks- Cavs are royally screwed.....

the thing is- on the Warriors -if any of those 4 guys misses significant time-- HE GONE - Cavs will smell blooda nd rip your throat out.

thus far- knock on wood- at least for the Cavs- things are looking okay--- butw e have already seen how shit happens in these playoffs- Gobert knocks his knee the first minute of the first game, Griffin is out- the Bulls are up 2-0 and Rondo goes down,

i mean- it doesnt even have to be injury either---- one year where the Cavs were amazing during the regular season- had like 63 wins- they lost to the Magic- in part because the Magic were just on FREAKING FIRE from 3- Mikael Pitrus looked like Reggie Miller- shit happens...

its why no teams have EVER faced eachother 3 in a row in the NBA FINALS. shit happens that you dont expect.

 

[WiggyRuss]

That narrative is made up, I never said anything remotely close to that.

hte Cavs sweeping wasnt good enough- they should have blown out the Pacers each game so LeBron could rest the 4th qtr...dont you know that?

 

[Shanemansj13]

The Raps have always been an inconsistent mess. Offensively they look worst then they do last year. Carrol looks to have slowed down and doesn't look to be the same defender that he was.

The Bucks have length and play pretty good defense - which will keep them in it. They're offensively challenged, but with the Cavs defensive problems, that would allow them to stay in this series.

And I think the experience factor is far overblown. The Raptors have significantly more experience than the Bucks (and quite a lot of blunders in the playoffs), yet here they are in a virtual deadlock in their series. The same could be said with the Clippers and Jazz - the Clips have so much more playoff experience, yet here are the Jazz possibly able to knock them out in the 1st round.

The Bucks will be very very scary and have some playoff experience under theirbelt in 2 years, shit maybe one year will do the trick. Winning a playoff series against the Raptors would definitely be a huge step for the youngest roster in the NBA (I mean sorry Suns you just suck right now).

 

[msgkings322]

You better hope you win, but if they don't who do they get? Do they sign a legit center or sign some all-star to minimum contract to play minutes off the bench? The Spurs didn't have a superteam, the Mavs didn't have a superteam.

Of course I hope they win. Also they will.

 

[Shanemansj13]

i havent conceded anything.

I will concede the WArriors are the favorite--- but they were teh favorite last years as well.

no matter what happens- you need things to break your way in the NBA playoffs here or there....if tonight/next week/whenever- Durant goes out and aggravates his calf and cant move - goodnight irene.

if LeBron hurts his knee and is out a couple weeks- Cavs are royally screwed.....

the thing is- on the Warriors -if any of those 4 guys misses significant time-- HE GONE - Cavs will smell blooda nd rip your throat out.

thus far- knock on wood- at least for the Cavs- things are looking okay--- butw e have already seen how shit happens in these playoffs- Gobert knocks his knee the first minute of the first game, Griffin is out- the Bulls are up 2-0 and Rondo goes down,

i mean- it doesnt even have to be injury either---- one year where the Cavs were amazing during the regular season- had like 63 wins- they lost to the Magic- in part because the Magic were just on FREAKING FIRE from 3- Mikael Pitrus looked like Reggie Miller- shit happens...

its why no teams have EVER faced eachother 3 in a row in the NBA FINALS. shit happens that you dont expect.

That entire roster was on fire and they had more 3 point shooters than you can imagine. The Cavs didn't have near the roster to compete with that team.

Rashard Lewis
Hedo
Fucking Pietrus
Courtney Lee
Rafer Alston
JJ Redick (he didn't play)

 

[msgkings322]

Love isn't an All-Star anymore, it doesn't really do much if you lead a team to 20 wins 4 years in a row.
It is really just an excuse you and other fans use.

The definition of a superteam is GS right now. Cleveland is not a superteam. I would love to call them a superteam, but Kyrie is on is a way to becoming a great player and Love is just a solid player.

Yep it's SuperFriends vs Superman. The group's gonna win, as we agreed.

 

[DorianRo]

i havent conceded anything.

I will concede the WArriors are the favorite--- but they were teh favorite last years as well.

no matter what happens- you need things to break your way in the NBA playoffs here or there....if tonight/next week/whenever- Durant goes out and aggravates his calf and cant move - goodnight irene.

if LeBron hurts his knee and is out a couple weeks- Cavs are royally screwed.....

the thing is- on the Warriors -if any of those 4 guys misses significant time-- HE GONE - Cavs will smell blooda nd rip your throat out.

thus far- knock on wood- at least for the Cavs- things are looking okay--- butw e have already seen how shit happens in these playoffs- Gobert knocks his knee the first minute of the first game, Griffin is out- the Bulls are up 2-0 and Rondo goes down,

i mean- it doesnt even have to be injury either---- one year where the Cavs were amazing during the regular season- had like 63 wins- they lost to the Magic- in part because the Magic were just on FREAKING FIRE from 3- Mikael Pitrus looked like Reggie Miller- shit happens...

its why no teams have EVER faced eachother 3 in a row in the NBA FINALS. shit happens that you dont expect.

Well.. Cavs better hope a key player to the Warriors get hurt for that to happen. Like Bogut last year who closeed the lane and stop the Cavs from getting easy points.

The Warriors are not only favorites, they are HEAVY Favorites. As probably the Spurs would be.

Cavs dont come back from a 3-1 down last year if Bogut didn't go down .

 

[Shanemansj13]

Yep it's SuperFriends vs Superman. The group's gonna win, as we agreed.

The Warriors were a Superteam last year, how did that workout?
The Cavs won two games 2 years ago vs that Superteam with Kyrie and Love out

 

[WiggyRuss]

That entire roster was on fire and they had more 3 point shooters than you can imagine. The Cavs didn't have near the roster to compete with that team.

Rashard Lewis
Hedo
Fucking Pietrus
Courtney Lee
Rafer Alston
JJ Redick (he didn't play)

I was FURIOUS that year- there 3 pt shooting was ridiculous- id like to go back and look at the stats for that series- they were disgusting

 

[gordontrue]

Well.. Cavs better hope a key player to the Warriors get hurt for that to happen. Like Bogut last year who closeed the lane and stop the Cavs from getting easy points.

lol. Bogut averaged less than 12 minutes per game in the first 5 games of the Finals.

 

[msgkings322]

i havent conceded anything.

I will concede the WArriors are the favorite--- but they were teh favorite last years as well.

no matter what happens- you need things to break your way in the NBA playoffs here or there....if tonight/next week/whenever- Durant goes out and aggravates his calf and cant move - goodnight irene.

if LeBron hurts his knee and is out a couple weeks- Cavs are royally screwed.....

the thing is- on the Warriors -if any of those 4 guys misses significant time-- HE GONE - Cavs will smell blooda nd rip your throat out.

thus far- knock on wood- at least for the Cavs- things are looking okay--- butw e have already seen how shit happens in these playoffs- Gobert knocks his knee the first minute of the first game, Griffin is out- the Bulls are up 2-0 and Rondo goes down,

i mean- it doesnt even have to be injury either---- one year where the Cavs were amazing during the regular season- had like 63 wins- they lost to the Magic- in part because the Magic were just on FREAKING FIRE from 3- Mikael Pitrus looked like Reggie Miller- shit happens...

its why no teams have EVER faced eachother 3 in a row in the NBA FINALS. shit happens that you dont expect.

You've conceded because you won't bet me, even if the bet accounts for one or both teams not making the Finals. Because you know the Warriors are going to win it.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Well.. Cavs better hope a key player to the Warriors get hurt for that to happen. Like Bogut last year who closeed the lane and stop the Cavs from getting easy points.

The Warriors are not only favorites, they are HEAVY Favorites. As probably the Spurs would be.

Cavs dont come back from a 3-1 down last year if Bogut didn't go down .

the Spurs? cmon now.

The spurs are having problems with freaking memphis. they would have ZERO answer for Irving.....love and aldridge cancel eachother out---- lenoard and lebron--- kyrie would straight murder them- and i like the rest of the Cavs roster better.

Spurs - as usual- just dont have that extra gear once the post season starts--- they have been a regular season team ever since Duncan started to decline.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Well.. Cavs better hope a key player to the Warriors get hurt for that to happen. Like Bogut last year who closeed the lane and stop the Cavs from getting easy points.

The Warriors are not only favorites, they are HEAVY Favorites. As probably the Spurs would be.

Of course they are the heavy favorites, they will be as long as they have this roster. The Cavs were down Kyrie and Love and won 2 games the year before. Shit happens, injuries happen and it is a long season. The Warriors do not scare me or the Cavs. They know how to beat them.

Right now, the Spurs would be slight favorites. They are tied with Memphis right now and their offense isn't the same as it has been in recent years or even earlier this year.

 

[msgkings322]

The Warriors were a Superteam last year, how did that workout?
The Cavs won two games 2 years ago vs that Superteam with Kyrie and Love out

Just like the Cavs and Clippers aren't a Superteam, the Warriors weren't last year. Plus the kryptonite in LeBrons balls took out one of our main guys and injuries hobbled another.

The Warriors title in 2015 was a little tainted by injuries, as was the Cavs last year. This year I pray for a full strength Cavs team for the Warriors to beat, as your no betting ass proves you agree with me.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I was FURIOUS that year- there 3 pt shooting was ridiculous- id like to go back and look at the stats for that series- they were disgusting

4 players shot 37% or higher from 3 that series. That was the Golden State Warriors before they became great...not in general but just the volume of 3's taken and made. It seemed like every since that team, the league changed to a 3 point shooting league.

They made 201 3's in the playoffs that year. That was high back then but now that is probably the average lol.

I mean Curry and Klay alone made 178 last year in the playoffs. Crazy.

 

[gordontrue]

The Warriors title in 2015 was a little tainted by injuries, as was the Cavs last year.

In 2015, Cavs lost their 2nd and 3rd best players for a total of 11 games.

In 2016, Warriors lost their 6th best player for 2 games.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Just like the Cavs and Clippers aren't a Superteam, the Warriors weren't last year. Plus the kryptonite in LeBrons balls took out one of our main guys and injuries hobbled another.

The Warriors title in 2015 was a little tainted by injuries, as was the Cavs last year. This year I pray for a full strength Cavs team for the Warriors to beat, as your no betting ass proves you agree with me.

No titles are tainted and those injuries in 2015 weren't even comparable to the injuries GS had last year. Kyrie and Love were out. Bogut was out LOL. Draymond missed one game, sorry excuse

 

[gordontrue]

 

[WiggyRuss]

In 2015, Cavs lost their 2nd and 3rd best players for a total of 11 games.

In 2016, Warriors lost their 6th best player for 2 games.

+ Love missed time with his concussion in '16 as well.

 

[gordontrue]

+ Love missed time with his concussion in '16 as well.

Good call.