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Kimbrel has blown more saves than janssen given up more homers and more hits and walks more people.
 

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Yes it is. But what's not clear (and don't give me this he is streaky crap) is why he isn't performing.

Maybe the hip issue is a problem. Really painful to see him look at two pitches down the middle, and then swing at a pitch way out of the strike zone. I also can't stand when he and Salty hit back to back. The K brothers.
 

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"OPS is all that matters for a closer."

29-31 in saves

14.2 K's per 9



holland > Uehara and Janssen

You responded to a post regarding their respective OPS against in save situations, saying Holland was better, when he's been far worse.

Then, you changed the criteria of my argument...

Awesome....

In save situations, he's actually at 14.5 K/9

Uehara: 15.00

Kimbrel 14.6

Uehara trounces both with a retarded 20:1 K:BB ratio...
 

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I'm not allowed to use that criteria now?

No...just calling players "useless bags of shit" when complaining about me suggesting a player has only one use, bagging groceries, is rather hypocritical. No?

I mean...Uehara can't even bag groceries in your mind? I'll have you know he was the Nippon grocer of the year at just 12 years old mister!
 

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Kimbrel hasnt given up a run in 25 consecutive save situations.

Uehara baby. Koji baby!!
 

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You responded to a post regarding their respective OPS against in save situations, saying Holland was better, when he's been far worse.

Then, you changed the criteria of my argument...

Awesome....

In save situations, he's actually at 14.5 K/9

Uehara: 15.00

Kimbrel 14.6

Uehara trounces both with a retarded 20:1 K:BB ratio...


never said he had a better ops against, i said he was a better closer, and i am right

you could argue but you'd be wrong.
 

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No...just calling players "useless bags of shit" when complaining about me suggesting a player has only one use, bagging groceries, is rather hypocritical. No?

I mean...Uehara can't even bag groceries in your mind? I'll have you know he was the Nippon grocer of the year at just 12 years old mister!

FUCK!!

Thats some good shit right there
 

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Maybe the hip issue is a problem. Really painful to see him look at two pitches down the middle, and then swing at a pitch way out of the strike zone. I also can't stand when he and Salty hit back to back. The K brothers.

I'll take your word on it since I can't watch basically any Sox games. Seems logical though... Its a no win situation with Salty... I mean where else do you hit him?
 

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All in 10 save situations, fucking awesome.

10....26...same thing...:doh:


that split counts times a releiver is brought into a save situation in the 8th inning...7th inning..etc...otherwise, same criteria as a save...

Excludes garbage time, and just focus's on how well he's pitched when he has a lead to protect close and late...
 

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Now do everything else.

What else do you want. A closer hoe gives up less runners. Blows less saves. Is better than the guy who strikes out the world but blows more saves. Kimbrel is 2-2 janssen is 4-0. So basically when he is in the game the jays win. They dont lose. Not the case for kimbrell

Janssen 》》》》kimbrell
 

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never said he had a better ops against, i said he was a better closer, and i am right

you could argue but you'd be wrong.

What you actually posted, and what you responded too:

Originally Posted by Down38st8 View Post
OPS against in save situations:

Uehara .449
Kimbrel .458
Janssen .350
Holland is better than all of them


And now where back to semi-literate detroit native territory...

"I'm not from detroit!!!"
 

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What you actually posted, and what you responded too:




And now where back to semi-literate detroit native territory...

"I'm not from detroit!!!"

"Holland is better than all of them"

never mentioned anything about ops, uno
 

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What else do you want. A closer hoe gives up less runners. Blows less saves. Is better than the guy who strikes out the world but blows more saves. Kimbrel is 2-2 janssen is 4-0. So basically when he is in the game the jays win. They dont lose. Not the case for kimbrell

Janssen 》》》》kimbrell

Oh thats funny, Kimbrel has saved 35 of their 68 wins.

Janssen 20 of their 53.

Janssen>>>>>>>>Kimbrel

Did you even put any thought into this?
 
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