1990 MLB Draft Playoff Game 8

[Nosferatu]

Please vote for the better team, feel free to add reasons why if you like...


TEAM FIVE

Lineup
1st Righty - 2nd base - Craig Biggio: (Also can move to catcher)Most Leadoff Homers in NL History, 4 Straight Gold Gloves, 5 Top 16 MVPs
2nd Switch - LF - Vince Coleman: 6 straight Stolen Base Titles, 3 straight 100 stolen base seasons, Two Top 12 Stolen MVPs
3rdRighty - RF - Dave Winfield: 7 Gold Gloves, 1st Ballot HOfer, Selected as Third Best Athlete EVER by ESPN in 1994.
Cleanup Switch- 1B - Eddie Murray: 1st Ballot HOFer, 3x Gold Glover, 9 Times in Top 11 in MVP voting.
5th - Righty - CF - Dale Murphy: Back to Back MVPs, 5 straight Gold Gloves, 4 straight Silver Sluggers.
6thLefty - DH - Darryl Strawberry: 8straight All Star Games, 88 HR Champ, 4 Top Ten MVPs.
7thRighty - SS - Cal "The Iron Man" Ripken: 1st Ballot HOFer, 2 MVPs, Most Homers Ever from a shortstop.
8thLefty- C - Lance "The Big Wheel"Parrish: Three Straight Gold Gloves, Three Straight Top 16 in MVP, 8x All Star.
9thRighty - 3B - Travis Fryman: Two Top 18 MVPs, 5x All Star, Gold Glover.

Bench
Pinch Hitter - Righty- 1B/DH - Cecil Fielder: 1st player with 50HRs since 1977 in 1990, Back to Back HR Titles, Three Straight RBI Titles.
Pinch Runner- Lefty- CF - Steve Finley: 5x Gold Glover, 320 Career SBs, Two Top 14 MVPs.
Pinch Runner -Switch- 2B/LF/3B -Bip Roberts: Extremely Versatile, 2x 40 stolen bases, 8th in 1992 MVP Voting.
DH/1B/3B -Righty- Darrell Evans: 4 Top 18 MVps, 1985 HR Champ, 1605 Career Walks- 12th All-Time.
LF/RF - Righty- Dante Bichette: HR&RBI Title in 91, 4 Top 20 MVPs, 4x All Star.



Rotation
SP -Righty- Jack Morris: 1991 World Series MVP, Opening Day No Hitter in '84, Most Wins in the '80's.
SP - Lefty- Frank Tanana: 3 straight Top 9 Cy Young voting, 3 straight ERAs under 2.62, 100MPH Fastball!
SP - Righty- Kevin Appier: 1993 ERA leader, 3rd in Cy Young Voting, Back to back ERAs under 2.56.
SP - Righty- Jose Rijo: 1990 World Series MVP, 1993 K leader, 2 Top 5 Cy Young votings.
SP - Righty - Mark Gubicza: Back to Back All Star games, 3rd in '88 Cy Young Voting, Back to Back Seasons over 255 innings.

Bullpen
Closer -Righty - Steve Bedrosian: Cy Young Winner, Rolaids Relief Award Winner, One of Four Relievers to win the CYA.
RP -Lefty- Mike Stanton: Three Times Over 80 appearances, Most Holds in MLB History, 3 Straight WS Rings.
RP -Power Lefty- Mitch Williams: The Wild Thing, All-Star, Slide Step Master.
RP - Righty- Gregg Olson: 4 out 5 season with an ERA under 2.05, 217 saves, All Star.
RP -Power Lefty- Dan Plesac: Three Straight All Star Games, Brewers Alltime ERA and Saves Leader.
RP - Righty- Steve Olin: Submariner, 2.34 ERA in 88 innings in '92 at age 26, his final season.


VS


TEAM SEVEN


Lineup
1. Lenny Dykstra CF .375 OBP, 285 SB, 2nd in MVP in 1993
2. George Brett 3B 1st ballot HOF, .305/.369/.487/.857, 3,154 hits
3. Frank Thomas 1B 1st ballot HOF, back to back MVPS 1993/94, 521 HRs
4. Gary Sheffield RF 9X All-Star, 509 HRs, .292 /.393/.514/.907
5. David Justice DH 3X All-Star, 306 HRs, .279/.378/.500/.878
6. Greg Vaughn LF 4X All-Star, 355 HRs, two top 5 MVP finishes
7. Lou Whitaker 2B 5X All-Star, 3X Gold Glove, 4X Silver Slugger
8. Tony Fernandez SS 5X All-Star, 4X Gold Glove, 246 SB
9. Chris Hoiles C .366 OBP/ Fangraphs 46.8 career runs above average defense, .994 fielding pct

Bench
1b/OF John Kruk 3X All-Star, 134 wRC+, .300/.397/.446/.842
C Tom Pagnozzi 3X Gold Glove, 1X All-Star, 37% Caught Stealing
OF Roberto Kelly 2X All-Star, 235 SB/ .290/.337/.430 /.767
2B/3B/1B/LF Gregg Jefferies 2X All-Star, played full seasons at 4 different positions/ .289/.344/.421/.765
SS Mike Bordick 1X All-Star, Fangraphs 139.7 career runs above average defense/ .260 BA

Starting Rotation
SP - Nolan Ryan 1st ballot HOF/ All-time strikeouts leader 5,714, 3.19 ERA
SP - Curt Schilling 6X All-Star, 2001 WS MVP, 3.46 ERA
SP - Bob Welch 27 game winner in 1990 Cy Young winner/ 211 wins/ 3.47 ERA
SP - Ramon Martinez 2X top 5 Cy young placer/ 3.67 ERA/135 wins
SP - Alex Fernandez 18-9, 3.13 era in 1993/3.74 ERA/ 107 wins

Bullpen:
CL - John Wetteland 3X All-star, 330 saves, 2.93 ERA
RP - Jeff Montgomery 3X All-star, 304 saves, 3.27 ERA
RP - Alejandro Pena 3.11 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, 7.1 K/9
RP - Paul Assenmacher 3.53 ERA/ 3.31 FIP/ 8.5 K/9
RP - Mike Henneman 193 saves, 3.21 ERA, 1X All-Star
RP - Joe Price 3.65 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, 6.5 K/9

 

[UK Cowboy]

This is the closest matchup of the 2nd round IMO. Very close call. Team 5 has a strong lineup, pop on the bench, an excellent bullpen, and a couple of solid starters in Morris and Tanana. Team 7 has a pretty good lineup(relative to these crazy good teams), a slightly better rotation, and an outstanding bullpen. In the end, Team 5 is just a little deeper and stronger, but its close. A seven game series would go the distance, 4-3

Team 5 wins

 

[steveringo]

Two overrated rotations... Team 5 line up takes this series.

 

[Ritzarmy]

Team 5

 

[Nosferatu]

I put team five 4th in the rankings and team seven 3rd. After looking at this one a little bit more I agree with what both UK and Steve said.


Neither rotation is really better than the other, seven has bigger names I guess.


I like both bullpens, slight edge to team seven.


The benches are where there is a big difference for me, you could almost start a couple players from team five's bench on team seven.


Problem with team seven is they don't really have any team speed, Dykstra stole 30+ a hand full of times and Fernandez was a 20 steal guy but there's just no team speed.


Tough to vote against Brett and Thomas back to back and this is one of the closest matchups we have ever had.


Team five wins game seven in 15 innings on a Darryl Strawberry HR off Paul Assenmacher.

 

[Nosferatu]

Team five leads 4 - 0


WLK vote on all the games!

 

[blstoker]

Line up
1 - 5
2 - 7
3 - 7
4 - 7
5 - 5
6 - 5
7 - 5
8 - 5
9 - 5

Defense
C - 5
1B -5
2B - 7
3B - 7
SS - 5
LF - 5
CF - 5
RF - 5

Bench - 5

Rotation
Morris-Ryan - 7
Tanana-Schilling - 7
Appier-Welch - 5
Rijo-Martinez - 5
Gubicza-Fernandez - 5

Bullpen
Bedrosian-Wetteland - 5
Stanton-Montgomery - 7
Williams-Pena - 5
Olson-Assenmacher - 5
Plesac-Henneman -5
Olin-Price - 5

21 to 8 Team 5

 

[Shanemansj13]

Team 5

 

[wlk3]

The more I see team 5 the more they grow on me... His 3 stats usage is very helpful and well used... He tells you who is where and why, so when they matchup with other teams it's almost like a game plan... I may get the "this guy doesn't know shit" look by writing this... But I'll say as a guy who isn't as well versed with these players as the rest of you, team 5 uses the rules to enhance his team perfectly... Right down to the "clean-up" line... Gives you the feeling he's coming in to do damage... Just an observation...

At any rate, overall the 2 guys at the top of team 7 I know pretty well and it gives them the edge slightly in the rotation, but the bench and lineup is a bigger lean towards 5 for me... Team 5 in 6...

 

[broncosmitty]

Appreciate that write up wlk.

I vote team five.

I like that stoke voted Lou Whitaker above Biggio. But I can't agree on Schilling over Tanana. Early 20's Tanana is the second most dominant lefty in this Mock. (And I hate Schilling)

 

[broncosmitty]

Id like to flip flop Biggio and Vince next matchup, if I could.

 

[Nosferatu]

Team five is up 8 - 0

 

[da55bums]

Montgomery over Stanton, not even close. Team 5 still wins easily

 

[Pack 500]

I put team five 4th in the rankings and team seven 3rd. After looking at this one a little bit more I agree with what both UK and Steve said.


Neither rotation is really better than the other, seven has bigger names I guess.


I like both bullpens, slight edge to team seven.


The benches are where there is a big difference for me, you could almost start a couple players from team five's bench on team seven.


Problem with team seven is they don't really have any team speed, Dykstra stole 30+ a hand full of times and Fernandez was a 20 steal guy but there's just no team speed.


Tough to vote against Brett and Thomas back to back and this is one of the closest matchups we have ever had.


Team five wins game seven in 15 innings on a Darryl Strawberry HR off Paul Assenmacher.

That's your problem with it. Different ideas of team building. I vote for team 7 because of the handsome owner