1990 MLB Draft Playoff Game 6

[Nosferatu]

Please vote for the best team and give reasons why if you like...

TEAM ONE

Lineup
1 Robin Yount-SS-R-2X MVP, 2X All Star, 1st ballot Hall of Fame
2 Julio Franco-2B-R-3X AS, 5X Silver Slugger, AL Batting Champ
3 Barry Bonds-LF-L-7X MVP, 14X AS, 8 Gold Gloves
4 Juan Gonzalez-RF-R-2X MVP, 3X AS, 6X SS
5 Keith Hernandez-1B-L-NL MVP, 5X AS, 11X GG
6 Joe Carter-CF-R-5X AS, 2X SS, AL RBI Champ
7 Ken Caminiti-3B-Switch-NL MVP, 3X AS, 3X GG
8 Sandy Alomar Jr-C-R-6X AS, Rookie of the Year, All Star MVP
9 Carney Lansford-DH-R-AL Batting Champ, AS, SS

Bench
Darren Daulton-C/1B-L-3X AS, SS, World Series Champ
Robbie Thompson-2B-R-2X AS, GG, SS
Bo Jackson- OF-R-AS, All Star MVP, 10th in MVP
Howard Johnson-SS/3B-Switch-2X AS, HR Champ, RBI Champ
Dave Henderson-OF-R-AS, WS Champ, GW Hit in ALCS

Starting Pitchers
1 Randy Johnson-L-10X AS, 5X Cy Young, 9X K's Champ
2 Dave Stieb-R-7 AS, No Hitter, ERA Champ
3 Mike Scott-R-Cy Young, 3X AS, ERA Champ
4 Jerry Reuss-L-2X AS, No Hitter, 220 Wins
5 Mike Moore-R-AS, World Series Champ, 161 Wins

Bullpen
Closer-Dan Quisenberry-R-Sidearm-3X AS, 5X Rolaids Reliever of the year, World Series Champ
LSet Up-Dave Righetti-L-2X AS, 2X Rolaids RPOY, No Hitter as starter
RSet Up-Jeff Reardon-R-4X AS, RPOY, 363 Saves
RLong-Jay Howell-R-3X AS, WS Champ, 155 sAVES
LLong-Kent Merker-L-74 Wins, Pitched No Hitter, Pitched part of 2nd No Hitter
SRP-Don Aase-R-AS, 66-60, Career Best ERA 1.62


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TEAM TEN

Lineup
Willie Wilson, DH, S 668 SB, 147 3B, 230 Hits (1980)
Eric Davis, CF, R 37 HR per 162 1986-1990, 80 SB 1986, 3 Gold Glove
Tony Gwynn, LF, L HoF, 15x All Star, 5x Gold Glove
Larry Walker, RF, L 1.058 OPS 1997-2004, 1997 NL MVP, 7x Gold Glove
Don Mattingly, 1B, L 84 EBH per 162 1984-1987, 1985 AL MVP, 9x Gold Glove
Terry Pendleton, 3B, S 2x NL Hits Leader (1991-1992), 1991 NL MVP, 3x Gold Glove
Bob Boone, C, R 1.029 OPS 1980 WS, 5x All Star, 7x Gold Glove
Harold Reynolds, 2B, S 1987 AL Stolen Base Leader (60), 2x All Star, 3x Gold Glove
Omar Vizquel, SS, S 404 SB, 256 SH, 11x Gold Glove

Bench
Todd Hundley S, 41 HR (1996), .943 OPS (1997), 2x All Star (1996-1997)
Jack Clark, R 146 BB per 162 1987-1990, 30 HR per 162 1978-1991, 4x All Star
Mark McLemore, S 89 BB per 162 1993-2002, 39 SB (1991), Played all positions but P, C, 1B
Shawon Dunston, R 15 HR per 162 1986-1997, 2x All Star, Played all positions but P, C
Brady Anderson, L 50 HR 1996, 95 BB per 162 1992-2000, 6 HR in 19 post season games

Rotation
Doc Gooden 1.53 ERA (1985), 1985 NL Cy Young, 8 Shut Outs (1985)
Orel Hershiser MLB Record 59 consecutive scoreless innings pitched, 1988 NL Cy Young, 8 Shut Outs (1988)
John Tudor 1.93 (1985), 10 Shut Outs (1985), 21 Wins (1985)
Kevin Brown 1.89 ERA (1996), 8.2 K/9 1997-2003, 2.72 ERA 1996-2003
Dave Stewart Last pitcher to win 20 games 4 straight seasons, 265 IP/season 1987-1990, 3x post season MVP award winner

Bullpen
Jose Mesa 1.13 ERA (1995), 321 Saves, 4x 40+ saves
Mark Eichhorn 284.2 IP in relief without a start (1986-1987), 1.72 ERA (1986), 9.5 K/9 (1986)
Bill Swift 1.99 ERA (1991), Led NL ERA (1992), 21 Wins (1993)
Chuck McElroy 1.95 ERA (1991), 647 Relief Appearances, Allowed 60 SB in 739.1 IP
Mike Fetters 1.87 ERA (1992), 614 Relief Appearances, 34 saves per 162 1994-1996.
Larry Andersen 5x under 2.40 ERA (1983-1984;1989-1991), 1.80 ERA 1989-1991 (163 appearances), 8.4 k/9 1987-1993

 

[UK Cowboy]

From here on out, every team remaining is stacked. Team ten has an excellent rotation, and a lot of great contact hitters. Team one has a great rotation as well, a superior bullpen, and an overpowering lineup. In a 7 game series, I think team one wins 4-1
Team 1 wins

 

[steveringo]

Good match-up. I like team 1's lineup and rotation over team 10.

 

[wlk3]

From here on out, every team remaining is stacked. Team ten has an excellent rotation, and a lot of great contact hitters. Team one has a great rotation as well, a superior bullpen, and an overpowering lineup. In a 7 game series, I think team one wins 4-1
Team 1 wins

Agreed... From here out is where I think the pitching will start to be more of a factor... I like team 1 in a 4-2 series...

 

[Ritzarmy]

Team 1

 

[Nosferatu]

I want to say I vote for team 10 but I just can't. I like 10's rotation better and I don't really care for the bottom third of team 1's lineup. I honestly believe because of the trades team 1 made getting Yount, Hernandez and Reardon for almost nothing is just too much in this one. Take away those trades team 10 wins but...


Seven game series I think team 10 makes it to game 7 but team 1 wins it 4 games to 3.

 

[Nosferatu]

So far it's 5 - 0 team one leads.

 

[UK Cowboy]

I want to say I vote for team 10 but I just can't. I like 10's rotation better and I don't really care for the bottom third of team 1's lineup. I honestly believe because of the trades team 1 made getting Yount, Hernandez and Reardon for almost nothing is just too much in this one. Take away those trades team 10 wins but...


Seven game series I think team 10 makes it to game 7 but team 1 wins it 4 games to 3.

Come on Bro. I gave up Willie McGee, Alan Trammell and Jack McDowell in those deals, that's "almost nothing"? Plus you told me I made a mistake and gave up too much to get Randy Johnson. Looking at how strong all these teams ended up, it's kind of silly to think anyone could take advantage of any of the guys doing the drafting.

 

[Nosferatu]

Come on Bro. I gave up Willie McGee, Alan Trammell and Jack McDowell in those deals, that's "almost nothing"? Plus you told me I made a mistake and gave up too much to get Randy Johnson. Looking at how strong all these teams ended up, it's kind of silly to think anyone could take advantage of any of the guys doing the drafting.

It's about who you got in return on those deals not just who you gave up, you got the better player in every deal.

I didn't say you took advantage I just stated my opinion. I ain't mad or anything.

 

[Nosferatu]

Yeah, that's right I didn't like the Big Unit trade but because of the other trades that one looks less bad now.

 

[blstoker]

Line - Up
1 - 1
2 - 10
3 - 1
4 - 10
5 - 10?
6 - 1
7 - 1
8 - 1
9 - 10

Defense
C - 1
1B - 10
2B - 10
3B - 1
SS - 10
LF - 1
CF - 10
RF - 10

Bench - 10

Rotation
Johnson-Gooden - 1
Steib-Hershiser - 10
Scott-Tudor - 1
Reuss-Brown - 10
Moore-Stewart - 10

Bullpen
Quisenberry-Mesa - 10
Righetti-Eichhorn - 10
Reardon-Swift - 1
Howell-McElroy - 1
Merker-Fetters - 1
Aase-Andersen - 10

16 to 13 Team 10

 

[blstoker]

Larry Andersen was left off the roster for some reason, I added him into the rankings

 

[UK Cowboy]

Yeah, that's right I didn't like the Big Unit trade but because of the other trades that one looks less bad now.

Exactly

 

[Nosferatu]

Larry Andersen was left off the roster for some reason, I added him into the rankings

You wanna gimme some stats for Anderson so I can add him to your roster.

 

[blstoker]

I already did, on the team thread. Guy was never a closer, but he could pitch something fierce.

 

[Nosferatu]

I already did, on the team thread. Guy was never a closer, but he could pitch something fierce.

I seen and already added him.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Line - Up
1 - 1
2 - 10
3 - 1
4 - 10
5 - 10?
6 - 1
7 - 1
8 - 1
9 - 10

Defense
C - 1
1B - 10
2B - 10
3B - 1
SS - 10
LF - 1
CF - 10
RF - 10

Bench - 10

Rotation
Johnson-Gooden - 1
Steib-Hershiser - 10
Scott-Tudor - 1
Reuss-Brown - 10
Moore-Stewart - 10

Bullpen
Quisenberry-Mesa - 10
Righetti-Eichhorn - 10
Reardon-Swift - 1
Howell-McElroy - 1
Merker-Fetters - 1
Aase-Andersen - 10

16 to 13 Team 10

I'd disagree with 6-7 of those, a few strongly. You'd take a prime Vizquel over Lansford .....at the plate?
While Tudor had a nice career, no way I take him over Prime Scott.
Mesa and Eichhorn over Quisenberry-Righetti

And come on now.....I loved Mattingly, but no 1st baseman is better on Defense than Hernandez.

 

[blstoker]

I'd disagree with 6-7 of those, a few strongly. You'd take a prime Vizquel over Lansford .....at the plate?
While Tudor had a nice career, no way I take him over Prime Scott.
Mesa and Eichhorn over Quisenberry-Righetti

And come on now.....I loved Mattingly, but no 1st baseman is better on Defense than Hernandez.

1 - yes, I like Vizquel as a number 9 better than Lansford. Not because his skill at the plate, but on the base paths and as a sacrifice hitter (common use for a number 9), combined with some nice years at the dish.

2 - I didn't take Tudor over Scott, Scott won that one (Scott Plays for team 1)

3 - Mesa at his best was unhittable during the steroid era. Eichhorn had arguably the best season as a relief pitcher in major league history.

4 - Yes, I did take Mattingly over Hernandez, but even if that changes, team 10 stays the winner of the round.

 

[UK Cowboy]

1 - yes, I like Vizquel as a number 9 better than Lansford. Not because his skill at the plate, but on the base paths and as a sacrifice hitter (common use for a number 9), combined with some nice years at the dish.

2 - I didn't take Tudor over Scott, Scott won that one (Scott Plays for team 1)

3 - Mesa at his best was unhittable during the steroid era. Eichhorn had arguably the best season as a relief pitcher in major league history.

4 - Yes, I did take Mattingly over Hernandez, but even if that changes, team 10 stays the winner of the round.

 

[UK Cowboy]

I've never been big on ranking 1-25, just who I think would win. My Mavs probably would have gotten 10 nods out of 12 against the Heat a couple of years back.....I guess the LeBron and Wade picks counted 6 each