MLB Daily Thread: 10-11-17: LMAO at Stephen Strasburg

[SlinkyRedfoot]

yup. 2 seasons.

xanders 24 too.

Bogaerts? What. Thee. Fuck?

Are you on ether this morning?

 

[Rock Strongo]

Bogaert's? What. Thee. Fuck?

Are you on ether this morning?

no, but if harpers only 25...xander, who was suppsed to bop at SS, is also only 24 (just turned 25)...and people have given up on him.

age/expectations...

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

no, but if harpers only 25...xander, who was suppsed to bop at SS, is also only 24 (just turned 25)...and people have given up on him.

age/expectations...

I have no idea how Bogaerts fits into a discussion about how Harper has or has not gotten his career off on an HOF trajectory.

Well, with the exception of your need to relate everything to Boston sports, no matter how tenuous the connection is.

 

[Rock Strongo]

harper:

Similar Batters

1. Kal Daniels (954.5)
2. J.D. Martinez (945.7)
3. Yoenis Cespedes (935.6)
4. Bob Cerv (933.1)
5. Mike Morse (920.2)
6. Walt Moryn (917.8)
7. Brad Hawpe (916.8)
8. Geronimo Berroa (916.3)
9. Monte Irvin (914.1) *
10. Pat Mullin (913.8)

* - Signifies Hall of Famer

Most Similar by Ages

1. George Davis (930.2) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
2. Tony Conigliaro (956.1) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
3. Justin Upton (960.5) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
4. Frank Robinson (966.7) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
5. Andruw Jones (963.1) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

 

[navamind]

yup. 2 seasons.

xanders 24 too.

Harper also has twice as much WAR as Bogaerts does.

 

[Rock Strongo]

I have no idea how Bogaerts fits into a discussion about how Harper has or has not gotten his career off on an HOF trajectory.

Well, with the exception of your need to relate everything to Boston sports, no matter how tenuous the connection is.

age, thats why, and expectations, thats why.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

harper:

Similar Batters

1. Kal Daniels (954.5)
2. J.D. Martinez (945.7)
3. Yoenis Cespedes (935.6)
4. Bob Cerv (933.1)
5. Mike Morse (920.2)
6. Walt Moryn (917.8)
7. Brad Hawpe (916.8)
8. Geronimo Berroa (916.3)
9. Monte Irvin (914.1) *
10. Pat Mullin (913.8)

* - Signifies Hall of Famer

Most Similar by Ages

1. George Davis (930.2) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
2. Tony Conigliaro (956.1) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
3. Justin Upton (960.5) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
4. Frank Robinson (966.7) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
5. Andruw Jones (963.1) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

You have to be trolling.

I'm not wasting my time today.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Harper also has twice as much WAR as Bogaerts does.

and xander has 115 more hits over the last 3 years.

and shockingly? xander only has 40 fewer RBI over that time.

xanders played in 50 more games.

this is why WAR is not something to rely on solely.

 

[navamind]

harper:

Similar Batters

1. Kal Daniels (954.5)
2. J.D. Martinez (945.7)
3. Yoenis Cespedes (935.6)
4. Bob Cerv (933.1)
5. Mike Morse (920.2)
6. Walt Moryn (917.8)
7. Brad Hawpe (916.8)
8. Geronimo Berroa (916.3)
9. Monte Irvin (914.1) *
10. Pat Mullin (913.8)

* - Signifies Hall of Famer

Most Similar by Ages

1. George Davis (930.2) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
2. Tony Conigliaro (956.1) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
3. Justin Upton (960.5) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
4. Frank Robinson (966.7) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
5. Andruw Jones (963.1) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

rofl

 

[Sgt Brutus]

-Strasburg missing a game because of a cold. I used to have some of my best games when I was sick. That's damn embarrassing. I wonder what the clubhouse thinks of him.
edit- guess he is starting now. mental damage may already be done, let's see if he struggles early.

-I like knowing we have Klubot, Miller, Allen ready to go. Hopefully the defense doesn't prolapse on the field again.

 

[Rock Strongo]

You have to be trolling.

I'm not wasting my time today.

you said he is on a HOF trajectory

1 similar HOF batter, 2 by age

thats all

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

you said he is on a HOF trajectory

1 similar HOF batter, 2 by age

thats all

Good luck. Happy fishing.

 

[navamind]

and xander has 115 more hits over the last 3 years.

and shockingly? xander only has 40 fewer RBI over that time.

xanders played in 50 more games.

this is why WAR is not something to rely on solely.

who the fuck cares about hits? They both have the same BA over the last two years. Harper also has him beat in OBP .416 to .352, and that's not getting into Harper's huge advantage in power output. RBIs? Garbage stat, but Harper has 40 more of them despite having played 50 fewer games.

 

[navamind]

and I haven't given up on Bogaerts. He had a disappointing year, but he was clearly not the same after getting hit in the hand by that pitch. Even if he doesn't blossom into a superstar, he's still a very good SS and a key part of the team. I just question whether he'll ever be much better than 2015-16. But trying to compare him to Harper is laughable.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Good luck.

i know right?

if harper doubles his production totals to date (meaning he will be approx 31/32)

1570 hits
300 HR
842 RBI

thats based on metrics at hand. so at age 32, harper will be halfway to 3k hits and will have fewer HR than jim rice did at the same age, again, based on the metrics we have. tough to extrapolate future success based on previous data.

 

[navamind]

and if we're going to play the similarity scores game (which are stupid to begin with):

Bogaerts:

Similar Batters

1. Jean Segura (938.7)
2. Tadahito Iguchi (938.1)
3. Alex Cintron (935.5)
4. Didi Gregorius (931.4)
5. Scooter Gennett (925.9)
6. Johnny Burnett (923.0)
7. Jordy Mercer (922.5)
8. Junior Spivey (921.4)
9. Dib Williams (917.9)
10. John Jaso (917.8)

Most Similar by Ages

1. Joe Cassidy (955.6) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
2. Jack Doyle (968.1) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
3. Fred Carroll (959.4) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

* - Signifies Hall of Famer

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

thats based on metrics at hand. so at age 32, harper will be halfway to 3k hits and will have fewer HR than jim rice .

"please, can we talk about Boston sports?"

lolz

 

[Rock Strongo]

and I haven't given up on Bogaerts. He had a disappointing year, but he was clearly not the same after getting hit in the hand by that pitch. Even if he doesn't blossom into a superstar, he's still a very good SS and a key part of the team. I just question whether he'll ever be much better than 2015-16. But trying to compare him to Harper is laughable.

he gets tired every year. hes the chris sale of SS's.

im only comparing him to harper...(3rd time, follow the bouncing ball) due to age and expectations. both were supposed to be a new breed at their positions. both to date, havent been as advertised.

 

[Rock Strongo]

"please, can we talk about Boston sports?"

lolz

jim rice was an OFer

want another example? i have about 45

 

[Rock Strongo]

and if we're going to play the similarity scores game (which are stupid to begin with):

Bogaerts:

Similar Batters

1. Jean Segura (938.7)
2. Tadahito Iguchi (938.1)
3. Alex Cintron (935.5)
4. Didi Gregorius (931.4)
5. Scooter Gennett (925.9)
6. Johnny Burnett (923.0)
7. Jordy Mercer (922.5)
8. Junior Spivey (921.4)
9. Dib Williams (917.9)
10. John Jaso (917.8)

Most Similar by Ages

1. Joe Cassidy (955.6) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
2. Jack Doyle (968.1) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
3. Fred Carroll (959.4) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

* - Signifies Hall of Famer

i know. i saw it. so harper has 1 more similar HOF batter than xander.