Series Thread: 1) Golden State Warriors vs. 8) Los Angeles Clippers

[msgkings322]

is that a joke? it happens all the time. Everyone in the world knows that Irving and Durant and Kawhi are going to get max offers. Theres plenty of ways to say it without explicitly saying it. I mean, I cant believe you are that naive and you are instead just trying to make the argument becauuse its there.

This is your first experience with him, but the rest of us already know this. Dude just loves to argue. As a lawyer, you should get along famously.

 

[dtgold88]

is that a joke? it happens all the time. Everyone in the world knows that Irving and Durant and Kawhi are going to get max offers. Theres plenty of ways to say it without explicitly saying it. I mean, I cant believe you are that naive and you are instead just trying to make the argument becauuse its there.

Try and follow this. Read as slowly as you need to.......

sure, they could tell Butler they will make him a max offer later. with me so far? If so, read on. If they do it is not likely we will know about it.

It's also possible Jimmy Butler told them I don't want to live/play in Minnesota for half a decade. You really dismiss that?
Caught up still?

all we KNOW is they offered him as much as they could offer. The rest is you speculating and basing it with your agenda.

 

[dtgold88]

Or I'll just keep doing what I do and you will keep mischaracterizing it. I do just as many 'IMO' posts as you, and say 'probably' and 'maybe' plenty as well. You're free to keep being wrong, though. It's all good.

As you were here? In your discussions with me you come with opinions as facts far more often than not. It's all good though.

 

[dtgold88]

This is your first experience with him, but the rest of us already know this. Dude just loves to argue. As a lawyer, you should get along famously.

signed, the pot

what's funny is I was gonna say the same about it being my first experience in a long disagreement with wiggy.

Most here just "love to argue" and those like me know this is the common reply when one wants to deflect. I've still never seen anyone have an argument with him/herself.

You really think we can be 100% sure Minnesota wanted no part of a max deal with Butler, and no chance he told them he didn't want to be there?

 

[msgkings322]

As you were here? In your discussions with me you come with opinions as facts far more often than not. It's all good though.

Nope. But again, all good.

 

[msgkings322]

signed, the pot

what's funny is I was gonna say the same about it being my first experience in a long disagreement with wiggy.

Most here just "love to argue" and those like me know this is the common reply when one wants to deflect. I've still never seen anyone have an argument with him/herself.

You really think we can be 100% sure Minnesota wanted no part of a max deal with Butler, and no chance he told them he didn't want to be there?

To be fair, yes we all love arguing or we wouldn't be here. But you have a unique style, and it's a style that gets you noticed as the most argumentative of an argumentative bunch. Congrats?

 

[dtgold88]

To be fair, yes we all love arguing or we wouldn't be here. But you have a unique style, and it's a style that gets you noticed as the most argumentative of an argumentative bunch. Congrats?

Noticed by an argumentative bunch? many of whom base arguments on poster and not post, and would rather argue/deflect than answer direct questions as you did.

Let's try again.....do you really think no chance Minnesota was gonna max him out later but Butler informed them he would not stay?

 

[msgkings322]

Noticed by an argumentative bunch? many of whom base arguments on poster and not post, and would rather argue/deflect than answer direct questions as you did.

Let's try again.....do you really think no chance Minnesota was gonna max him out later but Butler informed them he would not stay?

Talk about deflection, here's a perfect example. I wasn't talking about us. I was talking about you. Every time someone says something about you you reply 'I know you are but what am I'. You are what you are, no matter what we are. You are King of the Arguers, even though we your loyal subjects also like arguing. We just stop sooner, and concede sometimes, and eschew semantic and pedantic time wasting more than you do.

As far as Minny and Butler, that argument is with Wiggy. I haven't given it much thought.

 

[tlance]

was going to say cannot really disagree until you claimed I moved the goal posts.

You - "Butler cannot be the #1 player on a good team..........no, wait, a vocal leader.......no, wait, on a contending team."

Call it what you will. I am clarifying a 2 word post that you are probably overanalyzing.

How about this:

Maybe we should agree to just not discuss Klay or Love anymore.

Because at the heart of every one of these back and forths is a huge difference in valuation of those 2 players.

If you valued Klay as highly as the rest of us, you would prefer him over Butler in most cases too. But you don't.

So the discussion is circular and probably pointless.

 

[dtgold88]

Talk about deflection, here's a perfect example. I wasn't talking about us. I was talking about you. Every time someone says something about you you reply 'I know you are but what am I'. You are what you are, no matter what we are. You are King of the Arguers, even though we your loyal subjects also like arguing. We just stop sooner, and concede sometimes, and eschew semantic and pedantic time wasting more than you do.

As far as Minny and Butler, that argument is with Wiggy. I haven't given it much thought.

didn't give it much thought, but had to warn Wiggy "now he gets it".

couldn't be "now I get it?

and, still, it must be pointed out no one argues alone. I admit I might more as I do have more contrarian viewpoints. But they are what I believe, not designed just to disagree.

Like you did by jumping in here. Oh, the irony.

 

[dtgold88]

Call it what you will. I am clarifying a 2 word post that you are probably overanalyzing.

How about this:

Maybe we should agree to just not discuss Klay or Love anymore.

Because at the heart of every one of these back and forths is a huge difference in valuation of those 2 players.

If you valued Klay as highly as the rest of us, you would prefer him over Butler in most cases too. But you don't.

So the discussion is circular and probably pointless.

I did "call it what I will". You moved the goal posts and it's clear you did. Instead of saying, "ya know what. I kind of did" you deflected.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Facts - Klay has never been the #1 on his team since college.

Excellent deflection though by you.

But I don't see the point of the conversation. Just bc Butler has been sort of a #1 on a playoff team STILL doesn't prove he is better than Klay. Klay is the #2 where Steph Curry was the #1---the best shooter of all-time. Now he is the #3 bc KD and Steph are 1a and ab.

There have been a plenty of the same examples in the league where #1's weren't better than #2's.

At this point it's all just speculation bc Klay has never led a team being a #1 and he hasn't needed to.

 

[dtgold88]

But I don't see the point of the conversation. Just bc Butler has been sort of a #1 on a playoff team STILL doesn't prove he is better than Klay. Klay is the #2 where Steph Curry was the #1---the best shooter of all-time. Now he is the #3 bc KD and Steph are 1a and ab.

There have been a plenty of the same examples in the league where #1's weren't better than #2's.

At this point it's all just speculation bc Klay has never led a team being a #1 and he hasn't needed to.

Not sure I have said I can prove Butler is better. Apologies if I did. My opinion is he is and I've explained why I believe it.

I get this matters, but if Butler was perceived like Kawhi is (or at least was before last year) do you think this narrative would be different?

 

[CitySushi]

Not so sure Klay is a better defender than Beverly.

And would add something. I would also think you could drop Kevin Love onto the Clips. He's be their best player AND they'd still win 48 or more.

Not sure just dropping someone onto a ready made playoff team is the true test.

No he's not better defensively than Beverly, who is also a defensive specialist.

But more so my comment was a joke about Klay's prowess with the ladies and his love for LA women. Klay's a legend. If you haven't looked up his history, do yourself a favor and google it. Basically Klay lives for 3 things: Hoop, his dog, banging IG models.

 

[dtgold88]

No he's not better defensively than Beverly, who is also a defensive specialist.

But more so my comment was a joke about Klay's prowess with the ladies and his love for LA women. Klay's a legend. If you haven't looked up his history, do yourself a favor and google it. Basically Klay lives for 3 things: Hoop, his dog, banging IG models.

 

[CitySushi]

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Draymond and other teammates before used to refer to Klay's house as the "Trap House". Because you never knew who was going to be there on a given night. LOL.

 

[Shanemansj13]

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Draymond and other teammates before used to refer to Klay's house as the "Trap House". Because you never knew who was going to be there on a given night. LOL.

That Rams cheerleader

 

[Shanemansj13]

Sushi's role model is Klay. He will introduce his daughter to a 50 year old Klay in the future lol

 

[CitySushi]

Sushi's role model is Klay. He will introduce his daughter to a 50 year old Klay in the future lol

Only if she holds out to bang him until after they're married and she refuses to sign a prenup.

KLAY DESERVES THE MAX, PAY THAT MAN SO I CAN RETIRE.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Only if she holds out to bang him until after they're married and she refuses to sign a prenup.

KLAY DESERVES THE MAX, PAY THAT MAN SO I CAN RETIRE.

Klay might want to settle down at that age.

Super max in this case