Game Thread: 07.23.24 A Bullpen Game in LA

[Stokes1931]

Fitz and Ramos 3-5 with a walk

Everyone else is 0-18 with a walk and 6 K's

 

[calsnowskier]

Looks like Chappy wants to get traded. Doing what he can to assure the Giants are sellers this week.

 

[calsnowskier]

nothing to sell that anyone wants

Snell, Doval, Chappy, maybe Soler…

 

[Stokes1931]

This team appears to be done.

No fire. Little talent. No speed. Awful hitting. Same old same old.

 

[Stokes1931]

FZ: "We need to come out of the ASB and win some games, gentlemen."

Team: loses 4 of 5 to begin the second half

 

[calsnowskier]

Jackson with his best outing of the year

 

[calsnowskier]

And this team has again become a chore to watch.

 

[sf1giantfan]

I want to just keep Bailey, Ramos, Fitz, Webb, the Roger brothers and let the rookies take over.

 

[calsnowskier]

I want to just keep Bailey, Ramos, Fitz, Webb, the Roger brothers and let the rookies take over.

Wanting the “kids” to play is a fun sentiment. But who are “the kids”? If Wade is traded, who plays 1st? If Chappy is traded, who plays 3rd? What, EXACTLY, does “play the kids” look like?

 

[sf1giantfan]

Wanting the “kids” to play is a fun sentiment. But who are “the kids”? If Wade is traded, who plays 1st? If Chappy is traded, who plays 3rd? What, EXACTLY, does “play the kids” look like?

I would think Chap is gone at the deadline or he will not stick around after the season. So Casey, or someone else, maybe with one of the trades at the deadline. I see Fitz maybe at 2nd/SS along with Wisely. Maybe keep Wade but eventually someone younger hopefully with more power. Outfield Lee, Ramos, and more rookies or a trade at deadline find.

 

[calsnowskier]

I would think Chap is gone at the deadline or he will not stick around after the season. So Casey, or someone else, maybe with one of the trades at the deadline. I see Fitz maybe at 2nd/SS along with Wisely. Maybe keep Wade but eventually someone younger hopefully with more power. Outfield Lee, Ramos, and more rookies or a trade at deadline find.

I am talking about this year. Lee won’t play this year. Long term, we have Eldridge or maybe Tibbs for 1B, but Tibbs needs to sign first and Eldridge is not ready. MAYBE he can get a cuppo late next year, but that would be SUPER aggressive. We don’t have anyone in the system to play 1B right now.

 

[tzill]

nothing to sell that anyone wants

Not true:

1. Soler
2. Chapman
3. Snell
4. Conforto

 

[tzill]

I want to just keep Bailey, Ramos, Fitz, Webb, the Roger brothers and let the rookies take over.

I'm ok with LWJ, Wisely, as well.

Bring up Luci and let him play 2b. Bring up Schmitt and let him play 3b. Start Matos every day.

 

[tzill]

Wanting the “kids” to play is a fun sentiment. But who are “the kids”? If Wade is traded, who plays 1st? If Chappy is traded, who plays 3rd? What, EXACTLY, does “play the kids” look like?

3b: Schmitt, Villar
1b: Wise can play there, can bring up Auerbach, can play Brooks there for the rest of the year to see what we have.

 

[tzill]

I can't shake this feeling that Kapler would have this team above .500

 

[LHG]

3b: Schmitt, Villar
1b: Wise can play there, can bring up Auerbach, can play Brooks there for the rest of the year to see what we have.

Villar can play 1st as well. He's done well in limited play this year, give him one more extended shot at the big league level before deciding whether he will be back in 2025.

 

[LHG]

I can't shake this feeling that Kapler would have this team above .500

Maybe at .500 but not sure it would be better than that.
Kapler wasn't everyone's favorite but I think most realize that he was the fall guy. FZ is the problem. And maybe the ownership.

 

[calsnowskier]

Maybe at .500 but not sure it would be better than that.
Kapler wasn't everyone's favorite but I think most realize that he was the fall guy. FZ is the problem. And maybe the ownership.

Kap was the fall guy, for sure. But being a fall guy does not equate to competence. if you have a pink house that is on fire, repainting it white may be the right move, but there is a much bigger problem that needs to be addressed.

 

[calsnowskier]

3b: Schmitt, Villar
1b: Wise can play there, can bring up Auerbach, can play Brooks there for the rest of the year to see what we have.

I am good with taking a look at VR. He has shown an ability to hit at the MLB level in the past, and isn’t a super high prospect. Schmitt, however, has been an embarrassment with the bat in the majors. And he has regressed offensively in Sacto. He has things to work on, and doing that in SF is not the way to do it.

Brooks is garbage. If you are trying to lose to improve draft position, then fine. But if you are investing in him, that is a problem.

Wise is not a 1B. I think I might be taller than him, and I used to play bball with Verne Troyer

 

[sf1giantfan]

Maybe at .500 but not sure it would be better than that.
Kapler wasn't everyone's favorite but I think most realize that he was the fall guy. FZ is the problem. And maybe the ownership.

I’m not sure what more FZ could have done. He spent the second most after the dodgers, and got players who on paper should have helped us. The players are not producing like they should. I would put more blame on our manager than FZ. He got the players but he is not making it work. Overall I blame the players more but Melvin has to take some of the blame.