Le'Veon Bell

Mangler · Dec 9, 2019

Bell; "cough, cough, Coach, I'm sick, maybe just pay me to sit at home" The beauty of guaranteed money...

FaCe-LeE-uS · Dec 9, 2019

Mangler said:
Bell; "cough, cough, Coach, I'm sick, maybe just pay me to sit at home" The beauty of guaranteed money...

Any bets on whether he sits another week with "an eye to return week 16 vs. the Steelers" ?

Book it

Mangler · Dec 10, 2019

New York Jets' Le'Veon Bell seen at bowling alley with alcohol night before missing game because of flu: report

Who would have guessed?

FaCe-LeE-uS · Dec 10, 2019

Mangler said:
New York Jets' Le'Veon Bell seen at bowling alley with alcohol night before missing game because of flu: report

Who would have guessed?

I guess Bell hasn't learned anything about staying out of the spotlight. lol

BUT... I have been told that drinking alcohol helps with fighting sickness within your bloodstream. But the amount of alcohol it would take to raise your blood alcohol-level high enough to kill off the virus would kill you.

Never say never though! :heh:

FaCe-LeE-uS · Dec 10, 2019

Buyer's remorse??? You don't say!??? lolz

Mangler · Dec 10, 2019

FaCe-LeE-uS said:
Buyer's remorse??? You don't say!??? lolz

I read his salary is $13M guaranteed next year... the fucker would,t even show up for $14.5M with Pittsburgh....

Wamu · Dec 10, 2019

FaCe-LeE-uS · Dec 10, 2019

Mangler said:
I read his salary is $13M guaranteed next year... the fucker would,t even show up for $14.5M with Pittsburgh....

The entire contract averages just north of $13m per season lol, with only the first 2 years guaranteed. There is an OUT in the contract after 2020 season.

Not a bad play for a team that has a good O-line... Basically gives you L-Bell on a 1-yr deal on the franchise tag LMAO

Mangler · Dec 10, 2019

FaCe-LeE-uS said:
The entire contract averages just north of $13m per season lol, with only the first 2 years guaranteed. There is an OUT in the contract after 2020 season.

Not a bad play for a team that has a good O-line... Basically gives you L-Bell on a 1-yr deal on the franchise tag LMAO

One year deal would be good, after all he has been out of football for the past 2 years....

Yo Tee · Dec 10, 2019

Alley oops? Gase says Bell's bowling a bad optic

My favorite part of this story...

"This has been a disappointing season for Bell, who arrived with big expectations after signing a four-year, $52.5 million contract in March. He hasn't rushed for more than 70 yards in a game, and his numbers for the year are the worst of his career -- 589 yards, a 3.2 yards per carry average and three touchdowns."

ATL96Steeler · Dec 11, 2019

FaCe-LeE-uS said:
Buyer's remorse??? You don't say!??? lolz

Wow...not really, I expected them to release him after the 2020 season only because that's when his dead money makes it feasible to do so...the coach was on truth serum when he said he didn't want Bell.

You can say whatever you want thereafter to clean it up, but it's out there.

Whose going to want to trade for his $15.5 mil cap hit next yr?

FaCe-LeE-uS · Dec 11, 2019

ATL96Steeler said:
Wow...not really, I expected them to release him after the 2020 season only because that's when his dead money makes it feasible to do so...the coach was on truth serum when he said he didn't want Bell.

You can say whatever you want thereafter to clean it up, but it's out there.

Whose going to want to trade for his $15.5 mil cap hit next yr?

Like I said to Mangler, the beauty is in the post-2020 out... Yea its a sizable cap hit for a 1 year rental, but you're essentially getting him on a franchise tag type deal. If he had shown more promise this year I'd say his market would be pretty good. But at ~3ypc and hasn't sniffed more than 70-80yds per game... It's looking like the Jets will be cuffed to him for another year unless they package the deal somehow.

FWIW... I think if a team has a good O-line in place he'd be worth the gamble. Just wouldn't give up more than a 4th Rd pick.

ATL96Steeler · Dec 11, 2019

Terry Rode said:
Alley oops? Gase says Bell's bowling a bad optic

My favorite part of this story...

"This has been a disappointing season for Bell, who arrived with big expectations after signing a four-year, $52.5 million contract in March. He hasn't rushed for more than 70 yards in a game, and his numbers for the year are the worst of his career -- 589 yards, a 3.2 yards per carry average and three touchdowns."

Bell followed bad advice to leave the Steeler contract on the table, he followed bad advice with his "business decision" to sit out the season rather than play for the tag. When FA opened there was only one team bidding for him...against themselves. So kudos for him actually landing the contract that he did, but with the cap hit he's carrying right now, he'll be in NJ for one more season and they will cut him...putting a 29 y/o FA back on the market and this time he'll probably play for even less money.

ATL96Steeler · Dec 11, 2019

FaCe-LeE-uS said:
Like I said to Mangler, the beauty is in the post-2020 out... Yea its a sizable cap hit for a 1 year rental, but you're essentially getting him on a franchise tag type deal. If he had shown more promise this year I'd say his market would be pretty good. But at ~3ypc and hasn't sniffed more than 70-80yds per game... It's looking like the Jets will be cuffed to him for another year unless they package the deal somehow.

FWIW... I think if a team has a good O-line in place he'd be worth the gamble. Just wouldn't give up more than a 4th Rd pick.

There's always a team out there with the cap space...but I think it's going to be hard to trade him. Like you said, his production was nothing like his Steeler days...was he a product of that PIT OL, and surrounding cast?

A team that will have the cap space and I thought would make a run at Bell in FA is TB. They have Ronald Jones now....no big shakes production wise but he's on a rookie contract. I'm not seeing a host of teams willing to pay for Bell's 2nd yr of his deal and give up a pick to do it.

Sgt. Schultz · Dec 11, 2019

He'll be on another team next year..been reported Joe Douglas is already looking for a suitor ..he's been barely used at all this year...Gase is an ass....Bengals had or have the worst rush D in the league and he ran Bell 5-6 times 2 weeks ago the whole game...he'll be fresh as a daisy next year....

Sgt. Schultz · Dec 11, 2019

Terry Rode said:
Alley oops? Gase says Bell's bowling a bad optic

My favorite part of this story...

"This has been a disappointing season for Bell, who arrived with big expectations after signing a four-year, $52.5 million contract in March. He hasn't rushed for more than 70 yards in a game, and his numbers for the year are the worst of his career -- 589 yards, a 3.2 yards per carry average and three touchdowns."

It's actually not that bad if you look at the touches...Gase is obsessed with throwing the football...

FaCe-LeE-uS · Dec 11, 2019

ATL96Steeler said:
There's always a team out there with the cap space...but I think it's going to be hard to trade him. Like you said, his production was nothing like his Steeler days...was he a product of that PIT OL, and surrounding cast?

A team that will have the cap space and I thought would make a run at Bell in FA is TB. They have Ronald Jones now....no big shakes production wise but he's on a rookie contract. I'm not seeing a host of teams willing to pay for Bell's 2nd yr of his deal and give up a pick to do it.

His usage has certainly changed, and his efficiency has decreased.

Usage... Through 12 games with the NYJ, Bell has averaged 20.8 touches per game (~15 rushing attempts per game). By comparison, in 2017 with the Steelers he averaged 28.5 touches per game (~21 rushing attempts per game).

Efficiency... Through 12 games with the NYJ, Bell has averaged 5.3yds per touch (3.2yds per rushing attempt). By comparison, in 2017 with the Steelers he averaged 5.9yds per touch (4yds per rushing attempt).

But given how poorly the Jets O-line has been graded this season (ranked in high 20's), I tend to believe these numbers aren't necessarily an indictment of Bell's skillset.

Yo Tee · Dec 11, 2019

Sgt. Schultz said:
It's actually not that bad if you look at the touches...Gase is obsessed with throwing the football...

3.2 yards per carry. Not good in the slightest.

ATL96Steeler · Dec 12, 2019

FaCe-LeE-uS said:
His usage has certainly changed, and his efficiency has decreased.

Usage... Through 12 games with the NYJ, Bell has averaged 20.8 touches per game (~15 rushing attempts per game). By comparison, in 2017 with the Steelers he averaged 28.5 touches per game (~21 rushing attempts per game).

Efficiency... Through 12 games with the NYJ, Bell has averaged 5.3yds per touch (3.2yds per rushing attempt). By comparison, in 2017 with the Steelers he averaged 5.9yds per touch (4yds per rushing attempt).

But given how poorly the Jets O-line has been graded this season (ranked in high 20's), I tend to believe these numbers aren't necessarily an indictment of Bell's skillset.

Bell has some shiftyness (I'm using it anyway spellcheck) but is more of a power RB...I still like his skillset, but I've always felt with a cast PIT had in his peak yrs helped him, but he helped others as well. Now...imo he needs to be on a contending type team, because if they can key on him, his production will go down.

When he's alone with a blunt (lol) thinking back, he has to feel like shit...could've been making the same money basically on a team where everyone liked him, more competitive team even with a QB3 fighting for the playoff spot...and where he is now. He made a lateral money move to play for a bad team.

FaCe-LeE-uS · Dec 22, 2019

Wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers want to make a play for Bell this offseason.

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