2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

trojanfan12 · Nov 10, 2019

bksballer89 said:
Redick not ending the season in New Orleans right?

Lakers.

DJ · Nov 10, 2019

This was me about an hour ago when I woke up to brew a Keurig:

trojanfan12 · Nov 10, 2019

WiggyRuss said:
I just don’t know how you could justify sitting a perfectly healthy player out for 30 games or whatever it would be.

39 games isn't a lot for a sprained foot?

Wamu · Nov 10, 2019

trojanfan12 said:
Lakers.

You know what time it is?

dtgold88 · Nov 10, 2019

tlance said:
You can bookmark all you want.

Alec Burks has been a replacement level player his entire career. 1 partial season of inflated statistical production in an opportunity vacuum with all of the Warriors top players injured is not netting the Warriors a first round pick.

And he said mid-first, which means a middling playoff team or even a lottery team. hard to imagine that type of team is trading a 1 for Burks.

trojanfan12 · Nov 10, 2019

bksballer89 said:
Those edibles be hitting

I don't use them for that exact reason. Too hard to control the dose.

I think it was the 3rd edible I ever had, I literally couldn't move for like 2 hours.

Haven't touched an edible since. lol

trojanfan12 · Nov 10, 2019

tlance said:
OMG.

It is a bad post.

You easily have 20 stupider. Probably more.

Pot meet kettle.

I don't know.

I think we need a buck-Alice vs. Wiggy thread. :dhd:

trojanfan12 · Nov 10, 2019

dtgold88 said:
No disagreement from me. Though to be fair, does depend on level and type.

And, yes, if Cavs were a contender my guess is he'd have come back sooner

Never heard of a sprain that required that much time off. I mean, Kyle Kuzma had a stress reaction in his foot and missed less time.

Agree that if the Cavs were in playoff contention, he plays a lot sooner.

Btw, this isn't about anything you said, just showing Wiggy's hypocrisy re: Steph Curry.

dtgold88 · Nov 10, 2019

trojanfan12 said:
Never heard of a sprain that required that much time off. I mean, Kyle Kuzma had a stress reaction in his foot and missed less time.

Agree that if the Cavs were in playoff contention, he plays a lot sooner.

Btw, this isn't about anything you said, just showing Wiggy's hypocrisy re: Steph Curry.

I'm aware not about my comments. as usual I think there is just too much 100% or the other for people in this discussion. There can be an in between.

Yes, maybe a little hypocritical to say Curry is a puss but not TT. But also fair to say an injured foot and hand are not the same (assuming hand is healed).

Wamu · Nov 10, 2019

trojanfan12 said:
I don't know.

I think we need a buck-Alice vs. Wiggy thread.

tlance · Nov 10, 2019

dtgold88 said:
You used a 7-2 center not making 3s in your analogy when much of the time he played there were no 3s.

Yes, you were wrong. and no, as I suspected you wont own your wrongness.

Carry on.

Dude. You are impossible.

The analogy makes sense because:

It would be an insanely idiotic thing to say that Kareem was not a great player because he didn’t shoot 3s. Nobody would ever say that earnestly.

It is equally stupid to say Phil Jackson wasn’t a great head coach because he delegated Xs and Os to his assistants.

So yeah. The Kareem comment was purposefully stupid. Your Phil comment was equally so, except you actually believe it.

tlance · Nov 10, 2019

trojanfan12 said:
Never heard of a sprain that required that much time off. I mean, Kyle Kuzma had a stress reaction in his foot and missed less time.

Agree that if the Cavs were in playoff contention, he plays a lot sooner.

Btw, this isn't about anything you said, just showing Wiggy's hypocrisy re: Steph Curry.

Same with Love.

But the Cavs were brilliant to hold those guys out longer than they needed to.

dtgold88 · Nov 10, 2019

tlance said:
Dude. You are impossible.

The analogy makes sense because:

It would be an insanely idiotic thing to say that Kareem was not a great player because he didn’t shoot 3s. Nobody would ever say that earnestly.

It is equally stupid to say Phil Jackson wasn’t a great head coach because he delegated Xs and Os to his assistants.

So yeah. The Kareem comment was purposefully stupid. Your Phil comment was equally so, except you actually believe it.

It's not like I ever thought there was any chance you'd own your absurd comment. Thanks for proving me right.

trojanfan12 · Nov 10, 2019

dtgold88 said:
I'm aware not about my comments. as usual I think there is just too much 100% or the other for people in this discussion. There can be an in between.

Yes, maybe a little hypocritical to say Curry is a puss but not TT. But also fair to say an injured foot and hand are not the same (assuming hand is healed).

Cool. Just wanted to make sure you knew.

Yes and no on foot vs. hand.

I think both can be pretty close to equal when considering what each players main strength is.

Curry can hobble around on a bad foot and still hit shots. He wouldn't be able to drive to the hoop effectively, but as long as he can create some kind of space, he can still shoot and handle the ball. So imo, a bad hand would effect him more than a bad foot.

In TT's case, his feet are arguably more important because defense and rebounding are his main contributions. He just gets his points on put backs and dump offs. His feet are how he stays in front of offensive players and positions himself for rebounds.

I think both have/are likely to, miss more games than either normally would with those injuries for the same reason. Tanking.

dtgold88 · Nov 10, 2019

trojanfan12 said:
Cool. Just wanted to make sure you knew.

Yes and no on foot vs. hand.

I think both can be pretty close to equal when considering what each players main strength is.

Curry can hobble around on a bad foot and still hit shots. He wouldn't be able to drive to the hoop effectively, but as long as he can create some kind of space, he can still shoot and handle the ball. So imo, a bad hand would effect him more than a bad foot.

In TT's case, his feet are arguably more important because defense and rebounding are his main contributions. He just gets his points on put backs and dump offs. His feet are how he stays in front of offensive players and positions himself for rebounds.

I think both have/are likely to, miss more games than either normally would with those injuries for the same reason. Tanking.

Not a doctor, but isn't it more likely a big guy playing on what was a bad foot is more likely to hurt that foot (and have longterm issues) than a guard who is playing with a healed hand?

trojanfan12 · Nov 10, 2019

dtgold88 said:
It's not like I ever thought there was any chance you'd own your absurd comment. Thanks for proving me right.

It wasn't that absurd, imo.

I get that the 3 wasn't really used in Kareems era. In fact, it didn't exist for much of his career.

But that wasn't really the point. The point was to be great at something, you don't have to be great at all aspects.

The 3 was around for all of Shaq's career, so maybe a better analogy would have been Shaq was a great player despite not shooting 3's (or being very good at free throws lol).

But there was really nothing wrong with the analogy.

tlance · Nov 10, 2019

trojanfan12 said:
It wasn't that absurd, imo.

I get that the 3 wasn't really used in Kareems era. In fact, it didn't exist for much of his career.

But that wasn't really the point. The point was to be great at something, you don't have to be great at all aspects.

The 3 was around for all of Shaq's career, so maybe a better analogy would have been Shaq was a great player despite not shooting 3's (or being very good at free throws lol).

But there was really nothing wrong with the analogy.

Thank you.

And the whole point of the analogy was that the comment was supposed to be absurd.

Clearly that flew right over @dtgold88’s head.

dtgold88 · Nov 10, 2019

trojanfan12 said:
It wasn't that absurd, imo.

I get that the 3 wasn't really used in Kareems era. In fact, it didn't exist for much of his career.

But that wasn't really the point. The point was to be great at something, you don't have to be great at all aspects.

The 3 was around for all of Shaq's career, so maybe a better analogy would have been Shaq was a great player despite not shooting 3's (or being very good at free throws lol).

But there was really nothing wrong with the analogy.

Come on.....he used something that was not even used in much of that era to a coach needing to know Xs and Os. Xs and Os have been used in any era.

want to tell me Phillip is a great coach for his ability to handle people? Have at it. But he could have done far better than that absurd analogy.

dtgold88 · Nov 10, 2019

tlance said:
Thank you.

And the whole point of the analogy was that the comment was supposed to be absurd.

Clearly that flew right over @dtgold88’s head.

You failed. Because someone agrees wont mean you didn't.

trojanfan12 · Nov 10, 2019

dtgold88 said:
Not a doctor, but isn't it more likely a big guy playing on what was a bad foot is more likely to hurt that foot (and have longterm issues) than a guard who is playing with a healed hand?

Not likely with a sprain. If it's a break or a stress reaction (like Kuzma had), those can be tricky. But sprains are usually pretty straight forward.

Even a high ankle sprain, which is about as bad as a sprain gets, isn't likely to cost a guy 39 games.

Not a doctor either, but I have a lot of personal experience with all kinds and degrees of sprains.

I once sprained an ankle so bad that the doctor told me that I would have almost been better off breaking it. lol That one cost me 6 weeks.

But the Cavs were shooting for ping pong balls (just like the Warriors are), so it was in their best interest to have him miss as many games as possible.

I think the biggest difference here is that the Warriors came out and said that he likely wouldn't be playing this year and the Cavs never did that with TT, which was smart, imo.

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