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NO because he has These which Romo will never have....


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He also played on better teams than Romo.
 

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OK guys here are a few questions for you:

1.So with the acquisition of McCaffrey, do we then cut or trade Thompson?

2. Right now who would you rather have on this team....A. Le'veon Bell or B. Christian McCaffrey?

3. With the acquisition of Cook , Mixon or another runner what happens to Matt Jones?
 

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I still like McCaffery at WR.
No way I'd take him over Dalvin Cook either.
 

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I do concur but this is my opinion. Last yr on this board many members here spoke of why do our Skins run the ball more. Well we do run the ball, the problem is Gruden is impatient with running game. Big backs needs alot of carries to be effective. Not saying we don't need one b/c you rest assure we will have short yardage, goalline and 3rd and shot. The RB that fits Gruden off are good at running the ball between and outside the tackle and catching the ball alot. Many here always talk about the top end rb but there are few 3 down backs from the 5th rd down.

Brian Hill
Jeremy McNichols
Elijah McGuire

mcvay called the plays last year. so this year should be different.
 

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OK guys here are a few questions for you:

1.So with the acquisition of McCaffrey, do we then cut or trade Thompson?

2. Right now who would you rather have on this team....A. Le'veon Bell or B. Christian McCaffrey?

3. With the acquisition of Cook , Mixon or another runner what happens to Matt Jones?

If CM is drafted. the top three backs would be Kelley, CM, and Thompson. I think Jones is done unless he has an unbelievable training camp and pre season. CT would also be on thin ice. Very injury prone and is not on the same level as CM.
 

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that is your opinion but what you fail to realize is that this offense does not require a bell cow back. He might not be there at 17. That is how valuable he is.

So now Dean is calling an opinion...what is this world coming to?
 

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mcvay called the plays last year. so this year should be different.

Well hopefully they have a more balanced attack. Many mentioned this many times last yr. Gruden runs a west coast type of scheme. Originally the term referred to a Bill Walsh type of off which uses a short passing attack to set up the run or more down the field passing.

2016 Washington’s run-to-pass breakdown was 38.44 percent run plays to 61.56 percent passes.

Dean your point is right on so all in all the above stats HAS TO CHANGE to a more balanced attack.
 

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So now Dean is calling an opinion...what is this world coming to?

you should know by now that I need your opinions to be explained. Especially you gk. lol
 

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OK guys here are a few questions for you:

1.So with the acquisition of McCaffrey, do we then cut or trade Thompson?

2. Right now who would you rather have on this team....A. Le'veon Bell or B. Christian McCaffrey?

3. With the acquisition of Cook , Mixon or another runner what happens to Matt Jones?

if you draft CM you must keep jones and cut CT , net result we end up paying more for a 3rd down chnge of pace back . last season CT appeared in 16 games , the year before 13

a leveon bell type (aka mixon ) is a better fit for us because he can catch the ball and tote the rock , CM is 5-11 203 , joe mixon 6=1 223 lbs , another factor in durability

if you draft anyone but CM you end up having him compete with kelly and the loser is cut . this is my arbitrary 3 year thing so if jones cant cut the mustard then move on

i think CM canbe a good back in this league . i just think , for us , the right pick , is a bigger guy to be more of a bell cow and encourage some more balance . with CM , i think we go 80 to 20 pass vs rush . we need about 60 to 40 to help the defense out

and we have to understand these rookies we draft could take a couple of years to reach their full potential

now if we take CM i wont jump off a bridge or pull a dean hate campaign on the guy for 4 years but i think we can do better at the position
 

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WTH are you talking about? Who cares how I spelled woman and "he had no spy"? I was speaking to what teams may have to implement if they draft him. :thumb:
 

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OK guys here are a few questions for you:

1.So with the acquisition of McCaffrey, do we then cut or trade Thompson?

2. Right now who would you rather have on this team....A. Le'veon Bell or B. Christian McCaffrey?

3. With the acquisition of Cook , Mixon or another runner what happens to Matt Jones?


Thompson and Jones are change of pace backs, We will likely carry four backs. So I dont see either set the pace back meaning we cut Jones or Thompson. Might mean Brown back to the practice squad though.
 

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I always explain. My point is you actually got it right. You usually can't get.fact and opinion right

The only opinion or fact you should listen to is me. lol
 

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I will listen to any FACT you give.

Your opinion is possibly the most bias on this board and your opinions are usually based on the opinions of TV personalities.

not at all. How is your CM prediction looking on not going first round? lol. you can give your opinion all you want, when its crazy like saying CM wont go first round then you are begging to be made an example of.
 

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OK guys here are a few questions for you:

1.So with the acquisition of McCaffrey, do we then cut or trade Thompson?

2. Right now who would you rather have on this team....A. Le'veon Bell or B. Christian McCaffrey?

3. With the acquisition of Cook , Mixon or another runner what happens to Matt Jones?
I don't agree with the responses to the first question. If anything, drafting Bell would make it harder to get Thompson more PT than drafting McCaffrey would. First is the supposition that Thompson is a fit as a 3rd down back. He really isn't, because he's not a very good pass catcher, and I'm not even getting into the fact that he's injury-prone. What he is is a change of pace back. And if they pick Cook, Cook's going to be in there at RB most of the time, and there's very little role available for Thompson. If McCaffrey is picked, he can be used in all sorts of ways - including split out with another RB in there. And he's not likely going to be as much of a workhorse as Cook. There would be more opportunities for the 2nd and 3rd RB's if we took McCaffrey over Cook.

Matt Jones should be converted to WR - regardless of what they do at RB. He fumbles too much and runs far too upright to make it at RB on a consistent basis. He got an ugly concussion last year because of the way he runs. If he stays at RB, he's risking his life, frankly.
 

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WEAKNESSES
Bulls through running lanes crashing into blockers rather than shifting with the contours. Doesn't have athleticism to create early yardage for himself. Missing a functional jump cut for sudden shift from gap to gap once line of scrimmage muddies. Hit or miss with run lanes he chooses. Excessive forward lean creates issues with contact balance. Too easily felled by arm tackles. Banger, but not a tackle breaker. Doesn't have the speed to turn the corner when runs spill outside.
SOURCES TELL US
"He's not very dynamic as a runner so he needs to carve out a niche for himself as a physical backup who can go cover on kickoffs. He hasn't been a special teams guy but he better start." - AFC West regional scout
NFL COMPARISON
Stepfan Taylor
BOTTOM LINE
His NFL size and physical nature give him a shot to make the back-end of the running back depth chart, but his inability to create for himself with broken tackles and elusiveness puts a ceiling on his draft value.


The whole point of taking a RB is to IMPROVE on the position. Not bring in another project and hope for the best. If we arent going to IMprove and draft a day one starter, might as well take a project NT, G or WR as we have 5 project RBs we hope will turn into starters on roster already.

I would sooner grab Foreman in the 2nd or 3rd, atleast he brings something we dont have without the whole project aspect.

Thats a pretty awful scouting report honestly. The dude might never amount to much but thats just a downright bad scouting report.


Doesnt look like a guy who has "inability to create for himself with broken tackles and elusiveness"
 

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Another bullshit hater take on him I guess??


Positives


  • Impressive power
  • Generates good yardage after contact
  • Breaks lots of tackles
  • Always keeps his legs moving forward
  • Has very good balance
  • Has good size
  • Has good acceleration in the open field
  • Shows patience
  • Has good vision
  • Doesn’t fumble much at all


Negatives


  • Suffered a knee injury at the end of 2014
  • Sat out 2015 due to "personal issues"
  • Was arrested for suspicion of underage drinking
  • Wasn't used much as a receiver
  • Needs to work on his pass protection


Conclusion

Jamaal is an impressive runner coming out of BYU. Williams isn’t a running back that does anything at an elite level, but he does everything at a high enough level where he can be decently productive in the NFL. Jamaal has the ability, to be a 3 down back if he works on his pass protection, but would be better off as a two down guy to start. I wouldn't worry too much about his arrest. A football player being caught drinking would be an afterthought at any other school but BYU. I am not condoning underage drinking, but compared to some of the other off field problems some players have, this is near the bottom.

Draft Round Prediction: Round 4

Because Cook is a stonewall as a pass protector?
 
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