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deanpet21

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Again dude, you totally miss the point. Im not shocked though. New England scored a whopping 3.2 points per game more than we did. Sheer fucking Dominance at its finest.

Again, if we need to be a dominant offense in order to even have a SHOT at winning most games... where is the problem??


The fact is, our offense SCORED more points than Our defense gave up on average. If we had a middle of the pack defense, instead of bottom five... we would have made the playoffs. I know you want to blame the QB because of the Giants game... but most people realize, we should have secured a playoffs birth three weeks before the end of the season.

Now you are comparing us to NE? lol. You lost your mind. We were awful in the red zone scoring Td's. At one point Hopkins led the league in FGA. I blame KC for the NYG game, Dal game 1, Ari, Carolina game. Three of those in Dec where it counted the most. You get lost in the stats. Watch the games.
 

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Now you are comparing us to NE? lol. You lost your mind. We were awful in the red zone scoring Td's. At one point Hopkins led the league in FGA. I blame KC for the NYG game, Dal game 1, Ari, Carolina game. Three of those in Dec where it counted the most. You get lost in the stats. Watch the games.


Dude, I have watched the games. I also rewatch most of the games during the off season.


I saw a team that in the Dallas game #1, took the lead and the defense shit the bed.

In the Bengals game, a defense that couldnt stop any one.

In the Lions game, a defense that was handed a lead with less than 2 minutes, and let Matt Stafford just steam roll them.
 

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Again dude, you totally miss the point. Im not shocked though. New England scored a whopping 3.2 points per game more than we did. Sheer fucking Dominance at its finest.

Again, if we need to be a dominant offense in order to even have a SHOT at winning most games... where is the problem??


The fact is, our offense SCORED more points than Our defense gave up on average. If we had a middle of the pack defense, instead of bottom five... we would have made the playoffs. I know you want to blame the QB because of the Giants game... but most people realize, we should have secured a playoffs birth three weeks before the end of the season.

didn't miss the point at all. You are going to quote stats at me. Are you for real? Take out the Packer and Bears games where there defenses were awful. See you don't realize this. Watch the games get away from the stats. Stats mean shit.
 

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Dude, I have watched the games. I also rewatch most of the games during the off season.


I saw a team that in the Dallas game #1, took the lead and the defense shit the bed.

In the Bengals game, a defense that couldnt stop any one.

In the Lions game, a defense that was handed a lead with less than 2 minutes, and let Matt Stafford just steam roll them.

Well you need to watch those games again. Kc was awful in Dallas game #1. He constantly missed wide open Wr for TOUCHDOWNS. See the stats don't show that. Watch the last game of the year again. When it meant EVERYTHING. Who stepped up and who didn't? Answer that one jack ass.

Sure keep brining up the Lions game but totally leave out the Bal, NYG#1, Phil game #2, and Vikings games when the defense won it for us. Frigin hilarious.
 

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Well you need to watch those games again. Kc was awful in Dallas game #1. He constantly missed wide open Wr for TOUCHDOWNS. See the stats don't show that. Watch the last game of the year again. When it meant EVERYTHING. Who stepped up and who didn't? Answer that one jack ass.

Sure keep brining up the Lions game but totally leave out the Bal, NYG#1, Phil game #2, and Vikings games when the defense won it for us. Frigin hilarious.


Look Dean.. ask ANY rational person on the planet what was the problem with the redskins last year.... Aside from you, I would be willing to bet most would say simply.. the defense sucked ass. No one aside from you and a few misguided individuals thinks Cousins is the problem with this team. Most are wondering why this team has not made a real effort to sign him long term.
 

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Well you need to watch those games again. Kc was awful in Dallas game #1. He constantly missed wide open Wr for TOUCHDOWNS. See the stats don't show that. Watch the last game of the year again. When it meant EVERYTHING. Who stepped up and who didn't? Answer that one jack ass.

Sure keep brining up the Lions game but totally leave out the Bal, NYG#1, Phil game #2, and Vikings games when the defense won it for us. Frigin hilarious.


By the way, as for the defense "Stepping up in week 17".

NY averaged 19.4 points per game. So yes the defense did an AWESOME job holding one of the worst offenses in the league to a mere 6 points less than they normally score.

Kudos to them.
 

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Look Dean.. ask ANY rational person on the planet what was the problem with the redskins last year.... Aside from you, I would be willing to bet most would say simply.. the defense sucked ass. No one aside from you and a few misguided individuals thinks Cousins is the problem with this team. Most are wondering why this team has not made a real effort to sign him long term.

I didn't say KC was the problem. The defense was bad but stepped up when they had to in the last game. Its not that easy just resigning KC. He wants to be the highest paid in the league. He doesn't deserve it. I like him as a QB but his head is way too big right now.
 

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I didn't say KC was the problem. The defense was bad but stepped up when they had to in the last game. Its not that easy just resigning KC. He wants to be the highest paid in the league. He doesn't deserve it. I like him as a QB but his head is way too big right now.


Thing is, you are spinning it as if the defense holding one of the lowest scoring offenses in the league was some feat worthy of the Greek gods. When the fact is, our defense for the most part sucked ass all year long, and honestly for the last seven years.

Kirk wants to be paid like a starting QB, not like a backup/ 2nd tier QB or a place holder. And you for some reason hold that against him.
 

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Thing is, you are spinning it as if the defense holding one of the lowest scoring offenses in the league was some feat worthy of the Greek gods. When the fact is, our defense for the most part sucked ass all year long, and honestly for the last seven years.

Kirk wants to be paid like a starting QB, not like a backup/ 2nd tier QB or a place holder. And you for some reason hold that against him.

What backup in the NFL makes 25 m per season?
 

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They arent offering him $25M per season. So whats your point??

Ok 20M. lol no 2nd tier Qb was offered what KC got offered. You are being crazy. right now. Have a drink on me
 

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Ok 20M. lol no 2nd tier Qb was offered what KC got offered. You are being crazy. right now. Have a drink on me


No starting QB is being asked to take a 17-20% pay cut either. So again what is your point?? If you knew you could get paid $100k per year, but your Boss said, I will only pay you $80k.... are you going to take one for the team?? And if you say yes... I got some yard work i need done this weekend, I will pay you five bucks, after all.
 

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ONCE AGAIN THERE IS THIS FRICKING thought in some of skins fans brains THAT ALLEN AND DAN PICKS THE PLAYERS AND DRAFT THE PLAYERS WITHOUT REGARDS TO WHAT THE SCOUTS AND ARE COACHES THINK ... THERE IS THIS BELIVE THE ALLEN AND DAN LOCKS OUT ARE SCOUTS AND COACHES ON FA AND DRAFT DAY .. MOST SKINS THINK THIS IS HOW IT GOES DOWN WITH BRUCE... grudens says on draft day i need lamp all the scouts say man lamp will be the best lineman in history bruce then looks at the coaches and scouts and say nope im drafting peppers fuck off coaches and scouts' Get Real'....and this thing about KC paying him that much is really not smart buisness at this time making kirk the highest paid qb in nfl history is not good business .. if skins get better in red zone we would have scored 40 pts per game how many teams would have beat us then? how many times has the redskins got inside the 20 and kick field goal?
 

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so are mission is right on point this year fellas big wrs can lead to more TD in redzones and if we improve on run defense and get off the field sooner that can lead to some more points its a very good plan the allen and gruden came up with anyways
 

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No starting QB is being asked to take a 17-20% pay cut either. So again what is your point?? If you knew you could get paid $100k per year, but your Boss said, I will only pay you $80k.... are you going to take one for the team?? And if you say yes... I got some yard work i need done this weekend, I will pay you five bucks, after all.

My point is that KC is getting paid like a starting QB. You are way off.
 

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My point is that KC is getting paid like a starting QB. You are way off.


Keep spinning Dean. They offered him starting QB money from three years ago. IN 2014 $20M a year would have been a sweet deal. In 2017, its below market... deal with it.
 

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Keep spinning Dean. They offered him starting QB money from three years ago. IN 2014 $20M a year would have been a sweet deal. In 2017, its below market... deal with it.

No spin here. We will see how this plays out. Do you see the Redskins offer KC a LTD before 7/15?
 

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No spin here. We will see how this plays out. Do you see the Redskins offer KC a LTD before 7/15?


Nope,,, because they are stupid and he isnt exciting enough. I see them dealing him to the Niners and drafting Watson and you spinning that shit like a class five twister.
 

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Nope,,, because they are stupid and he isnt exciting enough. I see them dealing him to the Niners and drafting Watson and you spinning that shit like a class five twister.

In all seriousness you think the trade to the 49ers is still alive?
 

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In all seriousness you think the trade to the 49ers is still alive?


I think Bruce is going to try and Deal Kirk the first chance he gets. I think if it costs us the #17 and they dont have to admit Shanahan was right, they will deal Kirk faster than shit through a goose.
 
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