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Besides money, which event will have the biggest influence on a Cousins signing?

Besides money, The greater influence on Kirk Cousins signing a new contract?

  • 1. J. Gruden's extension

  • 2. Losing both P. Garcon and DJax


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deanpet21

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For the 1 millionth time, can someone explain this to me like a 5 year old. I will admit that I am no rocket scientist but for the life of me I cannot explain why the media is wanting this to happen. Here are the facts:

1. Cousins is NOT from CA.
2. The 49ers are a dumpster fire with zero talent and a revolving door in the front office.
3. Kyle was not the lone supporter of Cousins with the Skins. The media has done a great job of making it out to be that Kyle wanted to draft and start Cousins over RG3. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The Skins obviously have some questions with the GM but they have a coach who just got extended, a team President who has been with the team for several years and they are much closer to competing than the 49ers. Can we please stop this circus of Cousins demanding to go to San Fran please?


KC wants to go to Sf b/c he thinks they will give him more money on a LTD. Plus the Kyle factor is linking all the media with KC. This is why Kc's ask for a LTD is going to be huge b/c he knows Kyle will give him what he wants. If its not this year, it will be next year. The worst case scinero KC get paid 24m this year on the tag.

This is why I doubt KC signs a LTD with us. This is why I want to trade him now b/c we will only get a 3rd round pick in 2019 if he leaves in 2018. NOw if the 49ers can just give up the #2 pick and we can call it a day.
 

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i asked the media to knock it off

they declined

:deadhorse:

LOL...I will ask them again as well. I just can't wait for the martians have invaded the world story next.
Fake news folks, nothing to see here.
 

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KC wants to go to Sf b/c he thinks they will give him more money on a LTD. Plus the Kyle factor is linking all the media with KC. This is why Kc's ask for a LTD is going to be huge b/c he knows Kyle will give him what he wants. If its not this year, it will be next year. The worst case scinero KC get paid 24m this year on the tag.

This is why I doubt KC signs a LTD with us. This is why I want to trade him now b/c we will only get a 3rd round pick in 2019 if he leaves in 2018. NOw if the 49ers can just give up the #2 pick and we can call it a day.

Thats what doesn't make any sense. I never read or heard that Kyle was banging down the door to get Cousins to start. I never read or heard that Kyle stood up to his father and demanded that Cousins start over RG3. Mike wanted to draft Cousins in the first place.

I think the Kyle connection is weak and I think that this is nothing but fake news here. If its money, then that is one thing but the media is acting like Kyle was Cousins best friend in DC and his understudy. Nothing could be further from the truth.
 

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Thats what doesn't make any sense. I never read or heard that Kyle was banging down the door to get Cousins to start. I never read or heard that Kyle stood up to his father and demanded that Cousins start over RG3. Mike wanted to draft Cousins in the first place.

I think the Kyle connection is weak and I think that this is nothing but fake news here. If its money, then that is one thing but the media is acting like Kyle was Cousins best friend in DC and his understudy. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Kc wants to play for Kyle. It remains to be seen if Kyle will give up draft picks this year.
 

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Kc wants to play for Kyle. It remains to be seen if Kyle will give up draft picks this year.

And how do we know this? I am not trying to be argumentative but why would he want to play for a disaster of an organization with zero talent and no future? The 49ers are a joke. Again, why would Cousins want to play for Kyle over Gruden. Gruden has expressed a ton more confidence in Kirk that Kyle ever did.
 

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And how do we know this? I am not trying to be argumentative but why would he want to play for a disaster of an organization with zero talent and no future? The 49ers are a joke. Again, why would Cousins want to play for Kyle over Gruden. Gruden has expressed a ton more confidence in Kirk that Kyle ever did.

More Money!!!! KC is using the KS past as a excuse. This is the question I have. If KC is going to be the highest paid QB in the LEAGUE, why isn't he worth the #2 overall pick to the 49ers? Any Qb needy team would give up the #2 pick for any top 5 paid QB in this league. So why is this different?
 

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More Money!!!! KC is using the KS past as a excuse. This is the question I have. If KC is going to be the highest paid QB in the LEAGUE, why isn't he worth the #2 overall pick to the 49ers? Any Qb needy team would give up the #2 pick for any top 5 paid QB in this league. So why is this different?

Good point. If the rumor is true that its Cousins and the 17th pick for the #2 straight up, I will jump off a cliff. That would be highway robbery. However, the Pats are now looking at a 1st and 2nd for Garroppolo who has literally done next to nothing in this league. What a tale of two organizations.

If there is zero chance of Cousins signing a LTD, then you have to trade him. But you can't get ripped off in a trade.
 

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Good point. If the rumor is true that its Cousins and the 17th pick for the #2 straight up, I will jump off a cliff. That would be highway robbery. However, the Pats are now looking at a 1st and 2nd for Garroppolo who has literally done next to nothing in this league. What a tale of two organizations.

If there is zero chance of Cousins signing a LTD, then you have to trade him. But you can't get ripped off in a trade.

I agree. the trade should be just for #2 not #17.
 

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I agree. the trade should be just for #2 not #17.

I really hope we wake up and Scot's back at Redskins Park, Cousins has a LTD and we start to bring in quality FAs.

This organization has got to start building a sense of stability.
 

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I really hope we wake up and Scot's back at Redskins Park, Cousins has a LTD and we start to bring in quality FAs.

This organization has got to start building a sense of stability.

are you really believing the dead grandmother story? They should just fire him now. If he is not involved wit the combine or FA why bother to keep him.
 

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I really hope we wake up and Scot's back at Redskins Park, Cousins has a LTD and we start to bring in quality FAs.

This organization has got to start building a sense of stability.

Stability is boring, and this fan base has no idea how to react to and get behind the team NOT doing stupid flashy moves. Its alot more exciting to deal Kirk, spend heavy in free agency, then wonder why we ended up 6-10 again.
 

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I agree. the trade should be just for #2 not #17.

On second thought, I would demand a 1st rounder and 3rd rounder and tell them take it or leave it. I am not in to giving another team a discount deal and doing them a favor. I would rather them overpay for him next year and have a disaster 2017 then letting them off easy. I am not sure the player at #2 is a once in a lifetime player. No deal!
 

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are you really believing the dead grandmother story? They should just fire him now. If he is not involved wit the combine or FA why bother to keep him.

No, I don't actually. I think his marriage is on the ropes, he has some other family issue or he is drinking again. It makes little sense to keep him on if they just plan to fire him shortly correct?
 

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No, I don't actually. I think his marriage is on the ropes, he has some other family issue or he is drinking again. It makes little sense to keep him on if they just plan to fire him shortly correct?

I agree. Reports say they are going to let him go after the draft.
 

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I agree. Reports say they are going to let him go after the draft.

What does that accomplish? Why would we do that? If he is not our guy to be GM, you let him go.

This makes zero sense. "We are going to fire you in 2 months, so just lay low to then"...LOL
 

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What does that accomplish? Why would we do that? If he is not our guy to be GM, you let him go.

This makes zero sense. "We are going to fire you in 2 months, so just lay low to then"...LOL

that is what has been reported. What will be funny is if SM is not in the draft room at the time of the draft. The media will go nuts over this.
 

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I really hope we wake up and Scot's back at Redskins Park, Cousins has a LTD and we start to bring in quality FAs.

This organization has got to start building a sense of stability.

(eyes opening).....Yawnnnnn, huh? Wha happened? (scratching behind), Scott's back?...OK, Kirk's signed? Great!....(sauntering into bathroom to take a leak) Thanks!!:D
 

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Appearing on NFL Network Wednesday evening, reporter Mike Silver said it was his belief Redskins franchise player Kirk Cousins wants "no part" of Washington, and would like to be in San Francisco.

As the sides fail to make anything resembling progress in long-term talks, the Cousins/49ers rumors refuse to die. Not even San Francisco's Wednesday signing of Brian Hoyer has slowed the talk. The well seems poisoned enough to no longer be drinkable for Cousins in the nation's capital. 2017 is threatening to go off the rails for coach Jay Gruden.
 
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