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gordontrue

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What if Cavs offered TT & Shump for Melo, Kyle O'Quinn, & Brandon Jennings?

It works out salary wise, if the Cavs use up one of their several available exceptions
 

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sounds good to me

apparently from reading the article it would impossible for the Clips to make a deal for Anthony since they are "hard capped" from using hte full mid level on Wes Johnson- the Cavsa rent hard capped because they used the mini-mid level on RJ

And apparently Boston really doesnt have any interest becuase they dont think he fits their team

I didn't know about the hard cap problem for Clips. (it works in ESPN trade machine)

I had heard last night that the best offer for Melo may be the Clips -- Rivers, Crawford and Wes Johnson. (no picks) It sure seems like other teams would offer more. (Hawks? Raptors Rockets ... but not sure Melo would go to any of those)
 

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Clippers can trade for him if some other Team is willing to eat one of our shit contracts.

They need to free up 27-29 mil.

Crawford 13.2 mil, Redick 7.3 mil, Rivers 11 mil.

The problem comes in because the Knicks don't want Crawford.
I can feel your pain... :D
 

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They keep saying Minny is looking for another big.

Jordan Hill and Cole Aldrich must be total shit.
Not total shit but very close.
 

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Hard to see Wade doing that. I think he wants to finish the season in Chicago and see what happens in the playoffs. Forcing a buyout would be a terrible look for him.


No worse a look then hes given us the last couple weeks.
Lets see where Bulls are sitting at the trade deadline.
Wade doesnt have many playoff runs left in him.
What if Bulls are looking like a non playoff team.
 

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What if Cavs offered TT & Shump for Melo, Kyle O'Quinn, & Brandon Jennings?

It works out salary wise, if the Cavs use up one of their several available exceptions
i wouldnt do it---

all though it would be pretty entertaining to just abandon defense completely, lol.

there is only 1 ball- and to be honest- id rather have Bron and KI have the ball then Melo.
 

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I ate a huge ceasar salad with extra chicken and croutons...........I am stuffed.
 

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No worse a look then hes given us the last couple weeks.
Lets see where Bulls are sitting at the trade deadline.
Wade doesnt have many playoff runs left in him.
What if Bulls are looking like a non playoff team.
i gotta say man- a great many of your basketball opinions spawn from some crazy under-current of LeBron being some Machiavellian conspiracy theory manipulator. lol.

Wade is not going to get bought out.

He isnt going to be on the Cavs- this year or next year.

The Cavs arent trading for a 4th star- and LeBron doesnt expect them to.


he wanted a backup point guard man. lol....somehow that got you to a conspiracy between Wade and LeBron to get Wade bought out and to Cleveland.....the level of paranoia has just been turned up a notch. lol.
 

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What if Cavs offered TT & Shump for Melo, Kyle O'Quinn, & Brandon Jennings?

It works out salary wise, if the Cavs use up one of their several available exceptions
Then who will rebound for you guys? I mean, as a non-Cavs fan I think it's a great move! LOL
 

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Clippers can trade for him if some other Team is willing to eat one of our shit contracts.

They need to free up 27-29 mil.

Crawford 13.2 mil, Redick 7.3 mil, Rivers 11 mil.

The problem comes in because the Knicks don't want Crawford.
yah adding Crawfords long term deal seems like the exact type of thinga rebuilding team would look to avoid....

its almost why i hold out a little hope that a Frye/Shumpert/Felder type deal would be possible- but thats only if Carmelo really plays his hand strong and forces his way to the Cavs--- frye only has 1 year left- and Shumpert is at least young, on a reasonable deal- and a former NY fav.
 

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i wouldnt do it---

all though it would be pretty entertaining to just abandon defense completely, lol.

there is only 1 ball- and to be honest- id rather have Bron and KI have the ball then Melo.
Yes, because playing no defense is somehow going to add up to more wins. I mean we can look at last month for that stat....SMH
 

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i wouldnt do it---

all though it would be pretty entertaining to just abandon defense completely, lol.

there is only 1 ball- and to be honest- id rather have Bron and KI have the ball then Melo.

My knowledge of O'Quinn isn't the best... but I see him as a decent replacement to TT. Obviously nowhere near TT and wouldn't get as many minutes... but to add Melo to the mix and pick up a servicable backup PG I'd consider it.



Reg season rotation
PG: Kyrie 32, Jennings 16
SG: Korver 28, RJ 20
SF/PF: LeBron 32, Melo 32, Love 32
C: O'Quinn 24, Frye 24
(This means at any given point in the game you have either LeBron/Melo, LeBron/Love, or Love/Melo duo)

Playoff Rotation
PG: Kryie 40, Jennings 8
SG: JR 24, Korver 24
SF/PF LeBron 40, Melo 32, Love 24
C: Love 12, O'Quinn 18, Frye 18
 

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Then who will rebound for you guys? I mean, as a non-Cavs fan I think it's a great move! LOL

I wouldn't be worried about rebounds.

They would likely always have some combination of Love/LeBron, Love/Melo, or Lebron/Melo on the floor. That's great rebounding coming from your 3/4 position.
 

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My knowledge of O'Quinn isn't the best... but I see him as a decent replacement to TT. Obviously nowhere near TT and wouldn't get as many minutes... but to add Melo to the mix and pick up a servicable backup PG I'd consider it.



Reg season rotation
PG: Kyrie 32, Jennings 16
SG: Korver 28, RJ 20
SF/PF: LeBron 32, Melo 32, Love 32
C: O'Quinn 24, Frye 24
(This means at any given point in the game you have either LeBron/Melo, LeBron/Love, or Love/Melo duo)

Playoff Rotation
PG: Kryie 40, Jennings 8
SG: JR 24, Korver 24
SF/PF LeBron 40, Melo 32, Love 24
C: Love 12, O'Quinn 18, Frye 18
LeBron and Melo both would have to commit to playing more PF- and commit to actually playing defense at PF- and neither seems that interested in that proposition, lol. it might be good for the team - but neither wants to take that beating.

ehhi dunno-

if i had to ball park it id say its less then a 5% chance Melo is on the Cavs after the deadline- and that might be high.
 

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LeBron and Melo both would have to commit to playing more PF- and commit to actually playing defense at PF- and neither seems that interested in that proposition, lol. it might be good for the team - but neither wants to take that beating.

I agree, but that would only be a big issue come playoff time, when they would be both be more willing, I think.

if i had to ball park it id say its less then a 5% chance Melo is on the Cavs after the deadline- and that might be high.

Oh, I agree. I don't think a Melo deal is likely at all. As much as this deal intrigues me... I would also be very scared of it at the same time. It would be risky. But then the more I think about it.. the more I think this is the year to be risky if the Cavs really want to go for the title. The Warriors are so stacked, what do you have to lose?
 

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I wouldn't be worried about rebounds.

They would likely always have some combination of Love/LeBron, Love/Melo, or Lebron/Melo on the floor. That's great rebounding coming from your 3/4 position.
You think Melo is going to rebound? Seriously???
 

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Hope the Cavs eat their Wheaties.

I'm nervous. It seems like the Cavs schedule right now is a steady stream of... how did Carlisle put it... "shitty teams, but underrated shitty teams".
 
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