2016-17 NBA Regular Season Thread

[bksballer89]

No way. LeBron gets mad when guys don't shoot it, not when they do.

This is true about Lebron. He isn't Kobe. He encourages his guys to shoot. I agree with you

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Nope, Philly is 8-2 in their last 10, Heat just 6-4. Wizards are 8-2 also. I get that they have the longest current winning streak.

Where's the rule that states hottest is based on last 10 vs last 5?

 

[bksballer89]

That is so unlike Wade. He is not one to throw his team under the bus in public. He must be beyond frustrated

 

[bksballer89]

 

[gordontrue]

That is so unlike Wade. He is not one to throw his team under the bus in public. He must be beyond frustrated

LeBron rubbing off on Wade on this one and not in a good way.

 

[msgkings322]

Where's the rule that states hottest is based on last 10 vs last 5?

I think it's NBA Rule 10b-5-3a, look it up!

 

[trojanfan12]

I want your list but just the real talk not the irrational bullshit.

For me, it started with "The Decision" because he tried to make himself bigger than the game. Then throw in the after party with the "Not 1, not 2, etc."

Having someone from his posse take away the video of that college kid dunking on him wasn't a good look.

Speaking of his posse. His getting butthurt over Phil referring to his posse as his posse (which Lebron himself has done in the past) was pretty stupid.

Making fun of Dirk when he was sick during the finals was an even worse look. Although seeing him lose the finals after doing that was fun.

The way he did Miami when he went back to Cleveland was pretty low.

His passive aggressive shots at his teammates are old and tired and don't say much for his leadership. Even Cavs fans are growing tired of this.

Getting David Blatt fired.

Flopping, especially when he's horrible at it is pretty embarrassing. Particularly when he's the best player in the game and at his size.

None of the above changes the fact that he is the best player in the game. But I still don't like him.

For the record, I didn't like MJ either and the only reason I pulled for Kobe is because he played for the Lakers. I will say that I have more respect for MJ and Kobe because they didn't take passive aggressive shots at anyone, they just came right out and said what they thought.

 

[Kold]

I want your list but just the real talk not the irrational bullshit.

If I may join in here, just recently, it annoys me how he pitches these little fits, calling out the entire organization and team, when by all accounts, the Cavs are going above and beyond to give him the best team possible. It also annoys me, when he tries to walk back said attitude, by being passive aggressive about it

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Just words.
Not hating on Wade, but I can't count the times he cried wolf looking for fouls, then argued with the refs vs caring enough to hustle down the court and play D.

Then, all the nights of rest vs injury.


Not sure what he expected when he chose that roster.
I think they are playing about as well as most predicted.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

For me, it started with "The Decision" because he tried to make himself bigger than the game. Then throw in the after party with the "Not 1, not 2, etc."

Having someone from his posse take away the video of that college kid dunking on him wasn't a good look.

Speaking of his posse. His getting butthurt over Phil referring to his posse as his posse (which Lebron himself has done in the past) was pretty stupid.

Making fun of Dirk when he was sick during the finals was an even worse look. Although seeing him lose the finals after doing that was fun.

The way he did Miami when he went back to Cleveland was pretty low.

His passive aggressive shots at his teammates are old and tired and don't say much for his leadership. Even Cavs fans are growing tired of this.

Getting David Blatt fired.

Flopping, especially when he's horrible at it is pretty embarrassing. Particularly when he's the best player in the game and at his size.

None of the above changes the fact that he is the best player in the game. But I still don't like him.

For the record, I didn't like MJ either and the only reason I pulled for Kobe is because he played for the Lakers. I will say that I have more respect for MJ and Kobe because they didn't take passive aggressive shots at anyone, they just came right out and said what they thought.

I don't agree with all of this, but for the most part the mic has been dropped.

 

[bksballer89]

Just words.
Not hating on Wade, but I can't count the times he cried wolf looking for fouls, then argued with the refs vs caring enough to hustle down the court and play D.

Then, all the nights of rest vs injury.


Not sure what he expected when he chose that roster.
I think they are playing about as well as most predicted.

To be fair to Wade, the rest vs injury was always an organization decision. He didn't just go to the coach and say he didn't feel like playing. Miami is way too protective with their players when it comes to the injuries. Still the same way now. And also you can't ever say when he's on the court that he doesn't play hard or he didn't want it All superstars do the complaining, crying for fouls, and not getting back on D so that's not a big deal. Doesn't mean he's not playing hard. Every time he's on the court he give it 100%.

 

[trojanfan12]

LeBron rubbing off on Wade on this one and not in a good way.

What the hell is with guys going public with this crap anyway? It seems like it's happening more often. It was a very rare thing back in the day. That kind of stuff is supposed to be kept to the locker room and what happens in the locker room is supposed to be sacred and never leave the locker room.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

No way. LeBron gets mad when guys don't shoot it, not when they do.

In general, but not THAT shot.
There was plenty of time to find a much higher % look.

 

[msgkings322]

For me, it started with "The Decision" because he tried to make himself bigger than the game. Then throw in the after party with the "Not 1, not 2, etc."

Having someone from his posse take away the video of that college kid dunking on him wasn't a good look.

Speaking of his posse. His getting butthurt over Phil referring to his posse as his posse (which Lebron himself has done in the past) was pretty stupid.

Making fun of Dirk when he was sick during the finals was an even worse look. Although seeing him lose the finals after doing that was fun.

The way he did Miami when he went back to Cleveland was pretty low.

His passive aggressive shots at his teammates are old and tired and don't say much for his leadership. Even Cavs fans are growing tired of this.

Getting David Blatt fired.

Flopping, especially when he's horrible at it is pretty embarrassing. Particularly when he's the best player in the game and at his size.

None of the above changes the fact that he is the best player in the game. But I still don't like him.

For the record, I didn't like MJ either and the only reason I pulled for Kobe is because he played for the Lakers. I will say that I have more respect for MJ and Kobe because they didn't take passive aggressive shots at anyone, they just came right out and said what they thought.

OK some of these are fair enough, especially the flopping, I hate that shit. The Decision is overblown, he was young and tried to do something for charity IMO, I don't fault him. LeBron is a positive guy, not afraid to have fun with his image (check out his performance in Trainwreck, you may change your opinion a bit). He's not raping chicks and blowing millions at blackjack. He's not getting in fights with his own teammates and making awful rap albums. He's the biggest star in sports in the Twitter era, if MJ were playing today he'd be getting raked over the coals just as much. MJ got Doug Collins fired. Kobe got at least one coach fired and did his part to chase Shaq out of town.

I say enjoy this guy, you won't see another player like him. But it's just opinions, some people just rub others the wrong way. I've just never felt that way about him.

 

[trojanfan12]

Miami is way too protective with their players when it comes to the injuries.

I actually commend the Heat for that. I wish the Lakers would have been that way with Kobe. Maybe his last 2-3 years would have been better.

Although, to be fair, they probably would have had to throw him in a supermax prison to keep him out. Lol

 

[LAD]

His momma already is under the bus,

Spoiler

with Delonte

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

To be fair to Wade, the rest vs injury was always an organization decision. He didn't just go to the coach and say he didn't feel like playing. Miami is way too protective with their players when it comes to the injuries. Still the same way now. And also you can't ever say when he's on the court that he doesn't play hard or he didn't want it All superstars do the complaining, crying for fouls, and not getting back on D so that's not a big deal. Doesn't mean he's not playing hard. Every time he's on the court he give it 100%.

Wade had always been very competitive.

When you know you weren't fouled, but stand there and argue with the ref vs hustle down and play D, you aren't playing hard enough IMO.

With him it became the norm, not the exception.

Bottom line, him spewing accomplishes nothing.

As pointed out, he appears to once again be following James footsteps.

He's made poor decisions since his banana boat vacation last summer with James.

Maybe he'll learn from it, but he's 35 now.
It's prob too late.

 

[trojanfan12]

Kobe got at least one coach fired and did his part to chase Shaq out of town.

What coach did Kobe get fired?

As for Shaq, Kobe actually had little if anything to do with Shaq leaving. Shaq left over money. He has even said as much.

Don't get me wrong, the Shaq/Kobe feud was real. But they were able to play together on the court. Shaq wanted more money than Dr. Buss was willing to pay a player who was starting to decline, was lazy and always came into camp out of shape and overweight.

The final straw for Dr. Buss was when Shaq dunked in a pre-season game, looked at Dr. Buss and yelled "You gonna pay me now?"

There's no doubt we'd know more about MJ if we had the social media back then. But the difference is, MJ and Kobe at least knew when to stfu. Lebron hasn't figured that out yet.

 

[Kold]

Man, it seems like D-Wade is setting up his exit from Chicago