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No I'd say our championship hopes rest on the defense, just like last year.
Great example. Fascinating.
What example? Bronco's SB hopes rested on the defense last year not the QB.
No I'd say our championship hopes rest on the defense, just like last year.
Great example. Fascinating.
What example? Bronco's SB hopes rested on the defense last year not the QB.
You would think ravens fans would understand supporting teams with strong defense and shitty QBs. They have been doing it for over a decade.
Right. You are of the opinion that the Peyton Manning of last year and Mark Sanchez of this year (or any year) are equals. I find that fascinating.
Right. You are of the opinion that the Peyton Manning of last year and Mark Sanchez of this year (or any year) are equals. I find that fascinating.
So you're just another person who can't separate Manning the legend from Manning the qb last year. Mark Sanchez is not a good quarterback, but he's never had a season as poor as the one Manning just had for the Broncos. He may have been able to pinpoint what defenses were doing, but he didn't have the physical skills to beat it the majority of the time.You keep rationalizing Mark Sanchez by talking about shit QB play last year. He was still Peyton Manning. He was still the focal point of defensive game plans. He was still able to pinpoint what opposing defenses were doing. You think Mark Sanchez brings the same things to the table???
Broken down Peyton Manning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mark Sanchez.
So you're just another person who can't separate Manning the legend from Manning the qb last year. Mark Sanchez is not a good quarterback, but he's never had a season as poor as the one Manning just had for the Broncos. He may have been able to pinpoint what defenses were doing, but he didn't have the physical skills to beat it the majority of the time.
If they're completely honest, there's not an NFL fan in the world who would take last year's Manning over Mark Sanchez right now.
You're right. I thought Peyton was as good as ever
If they're completely honest, there's not a Bronco fan in the world who has even given an afterthought to Mark Sanchez (unless it was to laugh at him) until he became a Bronco.
I also love how Broncos fans completely ignore the fact that Sanchez was signed to be the team's backup QB.
You're right. I thought Peyton was as good as ever
If they're completely honest, there's not a Bronco fan in the world who has even given an afterthought to Mark Sanchez (unless it was to laugh at him) until he became a Bronco.
I also love how Broncos fans completely ignore the fact that Sanchez was signed to be the team's backup QB.
Without that defense Denver might not have made the playoffs, and one pissy poster might still be around.Manning at his worst is a better QB than Sanchez but without the defense we wouldn't have made it past the first round last year.
Without that defense Denver might not have made the playoffs, and one pissy poster might still be around.
Manning at his worst is a better QB than Sanchez but without the defense we wouldn't have made it past the first round last year.
I agree. Denver has a phenomenal defense that will most likely be stellar again this year. That's not my point though. My point is that with Mark Sanchez Denver wouldn't have made it past the first round last year either. You can argue and start throwing out Peyton's horrible stats...it won't change my mind. Peyton was still a huge factor (in a way that Mark Sanchez will never be able to duplicate).
So when Mark Sanchez won in the playoffs with a lesser defense in NY that doesn't count? I mean you keep making these ABSOLUTE statements when history hasn't shown that to be true. Ravens fans always love to hang on the fact that Flacco is a playoff QB that shows up in the big games. Well Sanchez actually has a higher QB rating than that of Flacco in the playoffs. He has shown up big for his team too when the games matter most.
Not only that Jets didn't have the offense weapons like Sanders, DT, Anderson etc.
Maybe. Manning certainly did play better when he came back from injury. And Denver definitely needed it as they didn't have much margin of error in the playoffs.I agree. Denver has a phenomenal defense that will most likely be stellar again this year. That's not my point though. My point is that with Mark Sanchez Denver wouldn't have made it past the first round last year either. You can argue and start throwing out Peyton's horrible stats...it won't change my mind. Peyton was still a huge factor (in a way that Mark Sanchez will never be able to duplicate).
That 2010 Jets team was pretty talented, though. Tomlinson and Greene splitting carries, Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards, and Jericho Cotchery is a pretty good top 3 receiving corps, and Keller was a solid tight end. That's not a bad collection of playmakers on offense.Not only that Jets didn't have the offense weapons like Sanders, DT, Anderson etc.
Maybe. Manning certainly did play better when he came back from injury. And Denver definitely needed it as they didn't have much margin of error in the playoffs.
But at the same time, Sanchez has that Flacco trait of actually performing better in the playoffs. Small sample size, but he has shown the tendency to elevate his game and actually has good numbers in the playoffs. So who knows.
So when Mark Sanchez won in the playoffs with a lesser defense in NY that doesn't count? I mean you keep making these ABSOLUTE statements when history hasn't shown that to be true. Ravens fans always love to hang on the fact that Flacco is a playoff QB that shows up in the big games. Well Sanchez actually has a higher QB rating than that of Flacco in the playoffs. He has shown up big for his team too when the games matter most.
Right so to sit here and make a statement like "Well Mark can't win in the playoffs" is just completely ignoring the fact that he already proven that he can. Heck he did it with a lesser team around him. Yes he is not a great QB. If he is starting for the Broncos I don't see him dominating for us and I see once again a lot of close games that could go either way. At the same time there are a lot worse options out there.