The Walking Dead

[gkekoa]

Did anyone else think when Negan said he couldn't choose and said, "Wait, I know how I'll decide" or whatever, that he was going to make Rick choose?

I did, I did.

 

[TheRangerDude]

Spoiler

Is that for a GTO??

Haha, no idea

 

[lilchi721]

I'd like to revisit my take on Denise's death a few weeks ago:



Had Denise not gone out looking for one soda, the group's trip to take Maggie to Hilltop would have been unnecessary.

Darryl and Rosita were asked to come along with Denise to get Medicine for Alexandria. But it's stupid why Darryl decided to walk the train tracks on the way back which caused Denise to get shot by Dwight.

 

[anotheridiot]

I just think it has to be Aaron, if Negan does not know any of these people, killing abraham would kill the biggest, Rick would kill the leader, and the way Rick told Aaron to stay to defend Alexandria, just seems like something Rick will say when they get back and all his people return but an alexandrian does not. Negan needs to leave them strong enough to gather him more stuff, so killing the strong ones makes little sense.

Aaron is a big enough guy, to make enough of a point.

I also think that maybe the writers are using the time off to possibly make up their minds as who it is, but I agree with its not a woman for sure, you dont bash in a womans head with a barb wire bat.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

I just think it has to be Aaron, if Negan does not know any of these people, killing abraham would kill the biggest, Rick would kill the leader, and the way Rick told Aaron to stay to defend Alexandria, just seems like something Rick will say when they get back and all his people return but an alexandrian does not. Negan needs to leave them strong enough to gather him more stuff, so killing the strong ones makes little sense.

Aaron is a big enough guy, to make enough of a point.

I also think that maybe the writers are using the time off to possibly make up their minds as who it is, but I agree with its not a woman for sure, you dont bash in a womans head with a barb wire bat.

Why? Sexist pig.

 

[lilchi721]

It's somebody who was in the RV judging by on what that Savior said about enjoy your last day on earth to Rick and co.

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

I just think it has to be Aaron, if Negan does not know any of these people, killing abraham would kill the biggest, Rick would kill the leader, and the way Rick told Aaron to stay to defend Alexandria, just seems like something Rick will say when they get back and all his people return but an alexandrian does not. Negan needs to leave them strong enough to gather him more stuff, so killing the strong ones makes little sense.

Aaron is a big enough guy, to make enough of a point.

I also think that maybe the writers are using the time off to possibly make up their minds as who it is, but I agree with its not a woman for sure, you dont bash in a womans head with a barb wire bat.

I agree...but then again, negan is pretty much an equal opportunity psychopath, no?
Not to mention unpredictability & monsterlike shock value apparently being his 2 best calling cards.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Back before the zombie apocalypse, Negan lured Carl into his non-descript econoline with promises of free candy.

maybe i missed that volume ... i thought they didnt know each other ... but iirc, what ends up happening in the comic is

Spoiler

Negan ends up using Carls eye socket as a love canal

/i could be wrong though

 

[juliansteed]

I stand behind the fact that the cliffhanger was totally foreseeable by short-sighted studio execs.

However, all that build up without the payoff leaves me feeling kinda empty. As BD has said numerous times, why break up the most dramatic moment of the series with a 7 month break? That just doesn't make sense.

And I just don't get that we went through this entire season without losing a single major character. We only lost 2 named characters, actually. Deanna and Denise. That's it. Good season, but how is that possible?

I've got a few pages of reading to do so this may have already been pointed out but Jessie, Sam, and Ron died. Jessie was only on the show about a season but she was built up to be a pretty major character seeing as how she was the main character's love interest at the time.

 

[calsnowskier]

I've got a few pages of reading to do so this may have already been pointed out but Jessie, Sam, and Ron died. Jessie was only on the show about a season but she was built up to be a pretty major character seeing as how she was the main character's love interest at the time.

Yeh, I remembered her family after the post. There was also Nicholas.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Daryl, Glen, Michonne and Rosita were barely in the episode it kinda seems like they really made it a point to make you think it's Abe, Eugene or Aaron. With all 3 kinda stepping into bigger roles.

And personally I think all 3 options kinda suck.

Abe is a badass but he's still not iconic and he basically is down with it. Eugene just wouldn't have an impact at all, and Aaron would legit be the worst writing decision in television history.

So I think it's gonna suck ass waiting 6 months and getting another BS death.

Unless of course they man up and prove "no one is safe" and stop just saying it. Kill Glenn.

 

[calsnowskier]

Daryl, Glen, Michonne and Rosita were barely in the episode it kinda seems like they really made it a point to make you think it's Abe, Eugene or Aaron. With all 3 kinda stepping into bigger roles.

And personally I think all 3 options kinda suck.

Abe is a badass but he's still not iconic and he basically is down with it. Eugene just wouldn't have an impact at all, and Aaron would legit be the worst writing decision in television history.

So I think it's gonna suck ass waiting 6 months and getting another BS death.

Unless of course they man up and prove "no one is safe" and stop just saying it. Kill Glenn.

While Glenn is my choice as well, he has been marginalized over the last few seasons to the point where his death would not cause the same kind of shock as it once would have.

And to have a huge cliffhanger, only to deliver him???

Just another reason why this should not have been a cliffhanger.

 

[WizardHawk]

If you are running the strongest army out there, do you keep the leaders and threats of the second strongest army alive after you publically kill one of their closest friends in the manner Negan just killed somebody? Or do you beat them down and slowly take the fight out of them?

As i already said, you don't take out a proven leader of a group you now want to work for you. It's a new world order and leaders that can keep their people alive and productive are coveted.

Besides, as bad ass as his army already is Rick took out at least one full outpost and another full group of his men. You tear Rick down and make him take their place and send them out on bitch duties.

Abraham is another story, but if I'm Negan there's no way I take Rick out. I want his people to see him pissing his pants and becoming my bitch. I sure don't want to have to install leadership in their ranks afterward.

So far most of the encounters we have seen with the saviors has been around them punishing people who have tried to leave or otherwise not done what was asked of them. They aren't in the business of holding groups hands. They know how to deal with groups that can't follow the simple rules.

 

[gkekoa]

As i already said, you don't take out a proven leader of a group you now want to work for you. It's a new world order and leaders that can keep their people alive and productive are coveted.

Besides, as bad ass as his army already is Rick took out at least one full outpost and another full group of his men. You tear Rick down and make him take their place and send them out on bitch duties.

Abraham is another story, but if I'm Negan there's no way I take Rick out. I want his people to see him pissing his pants and becoming my bitch. I sure don't want to have to install leadership in their ranks afterward.

So far most of the encounters we have seen with the saviors has been around them punishing people who have tried to leave or otherwise not done what was asked of them. They aren't in the business of holding groups hands. They know how to deal with groups that can't follow the simple rules.

I never said to take out Rick.

I would have definitely taken out Abraham.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

While Glenn is my choice as well, he has been marginalized over the last few seasons to the point where his death would not cause the same kind of shock as it once would have.

And to have a huge cliffhanger, only to deliver him???

Just another reason why this should not have been a cliffhanger.

Yup. The cliffhanger should have been the death. Kill whoever and then cut to black. But we shoulda known.

That way if they did want to do a death like Abe, Eugene, Aaron at least the season ends on their shocking death.

Now waiting 6 months only to reveal a lesser character is just bullshit. No intensity and an anticlimactic victim.

 

[calsnowskier]

I just realized...

This episode was the exact same as 4.16.

The group enters the situation thinking they are the cocks of the walk, and everyone needs to bend to their will.

Slowly, throughout the episode, they realize they are in over their heads.

They get herded to a spot where the bad guys have them surrounded and they need to fully submit to the will of the bad guys.

The end of the episode has them completely dominated in a situation they cannot win.


Of course, the Termites were not EXACTLY included in the comics (they were a re-imagining of a relatively minor bad-guy group), so it did not have the same expectations as this episode had. Also, there was a basic completion of the story in 4.16 that 6.16 that did not have.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Darryl and Rosita were asked to come along with Denise to get Medicine for Alexandria. But it's stupid why Darryl decided to walk the train tracks on the way back which caused Denise to get shot by Dwight.

That's great. Larry, Darryl and Darryl should have told the chubby bitch to sit tight while they went out and grabbed the meds. Period.

 

[lilchi721]

That's great. Larry, Darryl and Darryl should have told the chubby bitch to sit tight while they went out and grabbed the meds. Period.

But he didn't know what to get

 

[calsnowskier]

But he didn't know what to get

Didnt matter. They grabbed everything.

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

Didnt matter. They grabbed everything.

which was the logical approach for their predicament.....imho

It's not like they're going out on supply runs every other day... those meds may come into play in the next season too...whether it's for Negans group, Alexandria, or somehow for the Kingdom peeps remains to be seen.