Patriots using drones?

[Rex Racer]

I have been a pharmacist since 1978. Steroids in athletes has not been considered a "legitimate medical purpose" since at least that time. I have dispensed anabolic steroids my entire career. I have steadfastly refused to dispense them to bodybuilders and athletes who could not demonstrate a legitimate diagnosis. There were sources, but not anyone I would consider an ethical prescriber or dispenser of medication.

Pharmacists fill the prescriptions that the Doctors tell them to. You really call into question your qualifications when you claim that you had any more to do with it than that.

 

[cwerph]

The Steeler hate runs deep in you, doesn't it.

Haven't I maintained it was very easy to get prescriptions from doctors?

Perhaps, but I think I have demonstrated that they were not VALID prescriptions under the law. They were not prescribed for a legitimate medical purpose.

If you went to a doctor and paid him $250.00 to write you a prescription for dextro-amphetamines but you did not have a legitimate medical condition for which it should have been prescribed, the prescription would not be valid. That doesn't mean you couldn't find some chump to fill it, but that does not legitimize the transaction.

And yes, those practices still go on today, even for steroids.

This really isn't that complicated. Just because you can find some quack to write you a prescription does not mean it is legal, right, or ethical.

 

[Rex Racer]

Well hello there teenie weenie, always good to see my favorite punching bag and biggest phony on the Hoop...
You bandwagon fans are fun to watch, it's like watching a dog try to pick a guitar....

Gotta love OldFool. If this geriatric twit knew half as much about football as his wet nurse knows about photo-shop we might be able to read something more than his monosyllabic rants about his Raisins getting their hearts stomped on again.

 

[cwerph]

Pharmacists fill the prescriptions that the Doctors tell them to. You really call into question your qualifications when you claim that you had any more to do with it than that.

You sir, know nothing about the practice of pharmacy.

Ohio Administrative Code:
4729-5-30 Manner of issuance of a prescription.
(A) A prescription, to be valid, must be issued for a legitimate medical purpose by an individual prescriber acting in the usual course of his/her professional practice. The responsibility for the proper prescribing is upon the prescriber, but a corresponding responsibility rests with the pharmacist who dispenses the prescription. An order purporting to be a prescription issued not in the usual course of bona fide treatment of a patient is not a prescription and the person knowingly dispensing such a purported prescription, as well as the person issuing it, shall be subject to the penalties of law.

 

[Manster7588]

You sir, know nothing about the practice of pharmacy.

Ohio Administrative Code:
4729-5-30 Manner of issuance of a prescription.
(A) A prescription, to be valid, must be issued for a legitimate medical purpose by an individual prescriber acting in the usual course of his/her professional practice. The responsibility for the proper prescribing is upon the prescriber, but a corresponding responsibility rests with the pharmacist who dispenses the prescription. An order purporting to be a prescription issued not in the usual course of bona fide treatment of a patient is not a prescription and the person knowingly dispensing such a purported prescription, as well as the person issuing it, shall be subject to the penalties of law.

The way I read that is if the Pharmacy KNOWS the prescription is in valid and fills it any way the pharmacy is in violation.
It does not say the pharmacist can diagnose the patient.

 

[pennstatenut]

Perhaps, but I think I have demonstrated that they were not VALID prescriptions under the law. They were not prescribed for a legitimate medical purpose.

If you went to a doctor and paid him $250.00 to write you a prescription for dextro-amphetamines but you did not have a legitimate medical condition for which it should have been prescribed, the prescription would not be valid. That doesn't mean you couldn't find some chump to fill it, but that does not legitimize the transaction.

And yes, those practices still go on today, even for steroids.

This really isn't that complicated. Just because you can find some quack to write you a prescription does not mean it is legal, right, or ethical.

So I'll just bet you checked the medical records for every prescription you filled. Bullshit.

 

[cwerph]

So I'll just bet you checked the medical records for every prescription you filled. Bullshit.

Believe me, when something is up, you pretty much know it.

 

[cwerph]

The way I read that is if the Pharmacy KNOWS the prescription is in valid and fills it any way the pharmacy is in violation.
It does not say the pharmacist can diagnose the patient.

Nor did I ever claim that the pharmacists does. Are you arguing just to argue now? Face it, man. You are wrong.

That is exactly how this stuff works. A doctor prescribes a steroid, or oxy, or amphetamines, or human growth hormone, or whatever, then sends the patient to a pharmacist who "won't ask questions." Hell, there are places on the internet where you can fill out a form, have a doc write you a prescription without ever seeing you, and get pretty much whatever you want.

That is not legitimate medical or pharmacy practice. State boards all over the country are playing "whack-a-mole" with these sites. There are some guys here in Dublin, Ohio, who lost licenses and are in jail for doing this.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Didn't use wiki.
Steroid Laws | Steroidal.com

Maybe the site I used went to wiki, I don't know. If the are saying the same thing odds are wiki used them.

If I'm wrong please show me because I really did look for something that would prove it wrong.

Trust me as a Cowboys fan I hate the Steelers, would like nothing better than to poke holes in their armor.

I didn't go search any sites. I was just implying that wiki is not a source. Many knucleheads want to quote them as a source. Sorry even APA doesn't allow the use of wiki.

 

[Manster7588]

Nor did I ever claim that the pharmacists does. Are you arguing just to argue now? Face it, man. You are wrong.

That is exactly how this stuff works. A doctor prescribes a steroid, or oxy, or amphetamines, or human growth hormone, or whatever, then sends the patient to a pharmacist who "won't ask questions." Hell, there are places on the internet where you can fill out a form, have a doc write you a prescription without ever seeing you, and get pretty much whatever you want.

That is not legitimate medical or pharmacy practice. State boards all over the country are playing "whack-a-mole" with these sites. There are some guys here in Dublin, Ohio, who lost licenses and are in jail for doing this.

Hey, you're the one who said if a body builder is there for steroids you won't fill the script.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Believe me, when something is up, you pretty much know it.

Cwerph, I'm no doc or pharmacist. Would what you're saying be akin to "more than probable"?

 

[cwerph]

Hey, you're the one who said if a body builder is there for steroids you won't fill the script.

If there's a point to this, I'm missing it.

 

[Manster7588]

If there's a point to this, I'm missing it.

I dont know, maybe I'm putting to much stock into some of what you said earlier.

 

[cwerph]

Cwerph, I'm no doc or pharmacist. Would what you're saying be akin to "more than probable"?

Not sure what you mean. If I have a suspicion, I have a duty to investigate. If I don't get satisfactory answers, I won't fill the rx.

 

[cwerph]

I dont know, maybe I'm putting to much stock into some of what you said earlier.

If a body builder presented me with a prescription for an anabolic steroid, I would not fill it. That is correct.

 

[redseat]

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Not sure what you mean. If I have a suspicion, I have a duty to investigate. If I don't get satisfactory answers, I won't fill the rx.

Poor attempt at medical humor on my part. I was attempting to infer that it isn't legal/legit... Some of the squealer fans just won't admit it was cheating.

 

[Manster7588]

If a body builder presented me with a prescription for an anabolic steroid, I would not fill it. That is correct.

So you will overrule his MD?

I have no issues if a pharmacist tells a customer he will have to wait on a script until all is verified, but you as a pharmacist are not a doctor and should not have the power to do as you are sugesting.

Now if a patient brings in a script for a controlled substance and when you run it you see the same drug was filled a week ago at another pharmacy by all means deny that script but you cannot diagnose just by seeing the muscles.

 

[Manster7588]

Poor attempt at medical humor on my part. I was attempting to infer that it isn't legal/legit... Some of the squealer fans just won't admit it was cheating.

Did it give teams using steroids an advantage, yes. Was it against NFL rules, no.

By the way today made me research rods and the NFL, it all began in San Diego. The Steelers just got better results.

 

[cwerph]

So you will overrule his MD?

I have no issues if a pharmacist tells a customer he will have to wait on a script until all is verified, but you as a pharmacist are not a doctor and should not have the power to do as you are sugesting.

Now if a patient brings in a script for a controlled substance and when you run it you see the same drug was filled a week ago at another pharmacy by all means deny that script but you cannot diagnose just by seeing the muscles.

I know my job, and my duty. I would contact the prescriber to see if there was a medical justification. If that answer is unsatisfactory (which is almost always is), I would refuse to fill the rx. If the patient wants to complain to the state board (which they never have), I will give them the number.