ALL THINGS SUH

[RobBase]

“It hasn’t crossed my mind,” Austin told detroitlions.com. “I’m planning on him being back.”

Link not working but jest of it is Austin saying he plans for Suh to be back.

 

[RobBase]

Lions DC Teryl Austin said he's "planning on" free agent Ndamukong Suh returning next season.
The Lions have made an extension for Suh their top priority and want to re-sign him before the franchise tag deadline on March 2. Suh is looking to pass J.J. Watt as the highest-paid defender in the league. Ex-Bucs GM Mark Dominik expects a seven-year deal in the range of $120 million for Suh, with $70M guaranteed.
Source: detroitlions.com Feb 13 - 8:32 PM

 

[BUD]

Lions DC Teryl Austin said he's "planning on" free agent Ndamukong Suh returning next season.
The Lions have made an extension for Suh their top priority and want to re-sign him before the franchise tag deadline on March 2. Suh is looking to pass J.J. Watt as the highest-paid defender in the league. Ex-Bucs GM Mark Dominik expects a seven-year deal in the range of $120 million for Suh, with $70M guaranteed.
Source: detroitlions.com Feb 13 - 8:32 PM

RB, No disrespect to you or Suh followers. Suh is not worth it. What Detroit needs is a better OL

 

[Naughtymax]

RB, No disrespect to you or Suh followers. Suh is not worth it. What Detroit needs is a better OL

I would agree to 7 and 120 (17 avg). That'd leave the cap in decent shape and allow the team about $10MM to sign other free agents or to extend their current young talent.

 

[RobBase]

RB, No disrespect to you or Suh followers. Suh is not worth it. What Detroit needs is a better OL

None taken, Bud. I think Suh is worth every penny he will get. He's had a rocky transition into the NFL, butting heads w the league many times, but what we saw last year was him and the league finally finding common ground w each other when they overturned his suspension for stepping on Rodgers golden calf. What comes next is Suh hitting his stride in his prime. Austin and Caldwell are getting out of Suh what Aviators and Grandpa Gunther never could.

Online has 3-4 starters in place for the next several years depending on how they feel about Waddle. Need a new LG. Can retain Suh and still add one. This regime has hit home runs at G and C in recent years. That's a good sign.

 

[RobBase]

I would agree to 7 and 120 (17 avg). That'd leave the cap in decent shape and allow the team about $10MM to sign other free agents or to extend their current young talent.

Agree. The 7 years really makes that a doable contract.

 

[LionsWhyMe]

but what we saw last year was him and the league finally finding common ground w each other when they overturned his suspension for stepping on Rodgers golden calf.

FYI, Suspension Appeals are done outside of the NFL. One of the reasons I believe the Officials allowed 6 non-holding calls on Dallas O-Line (one the NFL admitted missing on Suh) while calling the two Ticky-Tack holding calls on the Lions Defense to move Dallas along on their final scoring drive. And of course the Lions being the Lions when it comes to Officials making game changing calls of rolling over and dying.

 

[Rollingthndr]

Does Suh get all 27 Million or is that just the cap hit? He would be completely insane to not take 27 million guaranteed for just 1 year.

 

[broncosmitty]

That's what he would get paid.

The additional cap hit of 9.7 mil or whatever it is on top of the aprx27 is from restructuring two years ago. (Tagging a "normal" DT would be less than 10.)

But, ya know, we got Reggie Bush outta the deal, so that's cool.

 

[Naughtymax]

Now this sounds perfectly sensible...

Tagging window for Ndamukong Suh opens Monday - NFC North Blog - ESPN

 

[Dr. Evil-er]

Now this sounds perfectly sensible...

Tagging window for Ndamukong Suh opens Monday - NFC North Blog - ESPN

While I will still be surprised if they tag him period I would be stunned if its done early in the window rather than at the very last minute.

 

[Naughtymax]

While I will still be surprised if they tag him period I would be stunned if its done early in the window rather than at the very last minute.

Agree. Like making your draft pick, this is something you leave on the table but don't actually use until the last minute (or since they still use fax machines, 1/2 hour before the deadline) to see what else develops.

 

[RobBase]

Hopefully we will never know how close they were to tagging him.

Mayhew just repeated that he's very optimistic a deal will be done.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-very-optimistic-ndamukong-suh-deal-is-close/

 

[Dr. Evil-er]

Hopefully we will never know how close they were to tagging him.

Mayhew just repeated that he's very optimistic a deal will be done.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-very-optimistic-ndamukong-suh-deal-is-close/

I am not purposely trying to be the Debby Downer of the group but its not the first time he has said something similar and failed. He did the same thing last year.

We were told on 2/1/15 that there was a very, very good chance something would get done in the next few weeks. So far nothing on that front. Today the other half says something similar only with the disclaimer that there is no timeframe on getting the deal done.

I find that extremely interesting since its not only contradictory to what Lewand said two and a half weeks ago but there certainly is a time frame within which the deal needs to be done. That is technically March 10 but its March 2 if you hold to the belief that the team is in fact absolutely not going to let him test free agency.

I'm willing to take the exact verbiage of his statement with a grain of salt in that he meant only to imply that there was not an announcement of a deal forthcoming immediately but that clock is absolutely ticking. I can't help but wonder why its only the Lions who are talking about a new deal and not a word from Suh and his camp. That's the same skepticism shared by the author of that article.

If I heard something out of Suh's agent that negotiations were simply progressing well then I might get a little excited, but words from the mouths of our front office should be evaluated with great caution as to their validity.

 

[Coach_Ed_LPW]

More so has to do with always picking in top 5 and starting out with massive contracts. Great players get massive 2nd deals no matter what. It's those first ones before the pay scale changed that fucks the Lions.

I agree with Rob 100% on this. They have done what they had to to keep Stafford and Megatron as Lions, and still field a competitive team(which they did, they have built a pretty good team). Eventually they had to pay the piper as far as the cap hits. Had we lost Megatron or Stafford where would we be? Now they have to try to keep Suh. We essentially have the 2 best players at their respective positions in the league, I don't believe any other team in the league has that. If Mayhew is able to keep Suh, he deserves kudos...I don't know what in the world he could possibly have done better as far as the contracts of our big 3. We are a top heavy team...they need to really work to get the most out of our bottom half. Tulloch, Jones and Bush are as sure as gone. The real judge in Mayhew's skill will be how their replacements fare. We know Whitehead is solid, I think Riddick and Bell are solid too, and you can bet they will draft a speedy back this year. Fortunately the running back draft class is very dep this year. I like our young defensive ends that we currently have, although Jones was quietly awesome this year and will be sorely missed. Hopefully one of those young guys emerges into stardom.

 

[gvsulaker82]

RB, No disrespect to you or Suh followers. Suh is not worth it. What Detroit needs is a better OL

They definitely need to bolster their offensive line, but when suh walks...and its looking like he is, they will need a defensive line as well.

 

[BUD]

The Lions should be able to get some big, fast mo fo to take his place. Suh isn't the whole D. If players were to give up just because Suh left, i'd just be plain ashamed of the them

 

[LionsWhyMe]

The Lions should be able to get some big, fast mo fo to take his place. Suh isn't the whole D. If players were to give up just because Suh left, i'd just be plain ashamed of the them

It's true that no one person is a team, but, how many O-lines have you seen that can take Suh 1-on-1 without allowing Suh to get to the QB or stop the run?

 

[gvsulaker82]

Suh definitely makes the lions d line and defense. No one said his departure would cause the rest of the defenders to give up. The lions would have a middle of the pack d without him, because he is that much of a monster and requires that much attention from the opposition.

 

[themuzzer]