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Just keep chucking them up Kobe.
 

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Here is the list of top 5 missed shots in NBA history and number of years they played:

1. Kobe Bryant (19, so far)
2. John Havlicek (16 years)
3. Elvin Hayes (16 years)
4. Karl Malone (19 years)
5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (20 years)

That's a pretty good list of names playing a loooooong time.

You got top 10 all time players and a bunch of championships on this list. I'll take the misses.
 

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I really wouldnt think that anyone would site this as something negative against a SG whos played so many years.
 

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Here is the list of top 5 missed shots in NBA history and number of years they played:

1. Kobe Bryant (19, so far)
2. John Havlicek (16 years)
3. Elvin Hayes (16 years)
4. Karl Malone (19 years)
5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (20 years)

That's a pretty good list of names playing a loooooong time.

A cliche or two comes to mind in when looking at this list...:scratch:

You miss every shot you are afraid to take...

Gotta take em to make em...

But mostly I'm struck by the fact that....Every name on that list was/is an All time great.

I hate the Lakers.

But, the Kobe bashing is a bit ridiculous.
 

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I really wouldnt think that anyone would site this as something negative against a SG whos played so many years.

Exactly...

I'd take Kobe's stats, rings and salary over a guy like Joe Johnson, DeRozan now or Reggie Miller, Alan Houston in the yesteryear.

Winning matters.
 

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Kobe had 7 renounds, 6 assists and 4 steals yesterday.....let's not act like he is just shooting the ball. He's doing other things as well.

Although, he is admittedly struggling from the field.....but in fairness they have no other volume scorers.
 

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If MJ hadn't retired....he'd be right there with Kobe in missed FG's.
 

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Cy Young has the most career losses. Nolan Ryan has the most career walks. Do these guys suck or are these milestones a result of longevity?
 

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A cliche or two comes to mind in when looking at this list...:scratch:

You miss every shot you are afraid to take...

Gotta take em to make em...

But mostly I'm struck by the fact that....Every name on that list was/is an All time great.

I hate the Lakers.

But, the Kobe bashing is a bit ridiculous.

Exactly...

I'd take Kobe's stats, rings and salary over a guy like Joe Johnson, DeRozan now or Reggie Miller, Alan Houston in the yesteryear.

Winning matters.

It feels like I just kissed my supermodel cousin... It's cool cause she's a supermodel, but she's still my cousin... :noidea:
 

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It feels like I just kissed my supermodel cousin... It's cool cause she's a supermodel, but she's still my cousin... :noidea:

Yeah...this is some unnatural shit...lol....make it stop!
 

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I really wouldnt think that anyone would site this as something negative against a SG whos played so many years.

And that is why you aren't paid to think.
 

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Cy Young has the most career losses. Nolan Ryan has the most career walks. Do these guys suck or are these milestones a result of longevity?

anyone who thinks Kobe sucks doesn't know basketball. but this is going to be fodder for people who think he chucks the ball up to much. it just is. He is a career 45% shooter. not terrible at all from a guard. especially one known for chucking up shots.

to get this record you have to good. Favre owns the NFL int record. You don't get that record by sucking, you wouldn't last long enough.
 

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Woa. Tsssss!

I couldn't resist. It is something my wife and I say to each other. No disrespect. I get your point. But haters gonna hate.
 

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anyone who thinks Kobe sucks doesn't know basketball. but this is going to be fodder for people who think he chucks the ball up to much. it just is. He is a career 45% shooter. not terrible at all from a guard. especially one known for chucking up shots.

to get this record you have to good. Favre owns the NFL int record. You don't get that record by sucking, you wouldn't last long enough.

I suspect his career FG% of 45.3% (and dropping this season), is above average for the shooting guard position. It's not terrible as some will attempt to argue. It's certainly not as good as Jordan (49.7%) or Wade (49.2%). However, when you look at True Shooting %, things are a little closer.

Kobe: 55.5%
Jordan: 56.9%
Wade: 56.8%

Kobe has taken a lot more 3-pointers over his career and made them at a higher percentage than both Jordan and Wade. Kobe and Jordan have similar FT%, both well ahead of Wade's. It's surprising that Wade is a career 76.5% free throw shooter.
 

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Jordan was tired from having to defend at a world class level. That dude worked both ends
 

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And your answer to fixing the team is the incredibly general answer of "everybody needs to score more", gee thanks for that ocean of insight, I can barely deal with the depth of it.

Way to misrepresent what I said and completely miss the point: that no one else can score since Kobe won't pass the ball and never sees a shot he doesn't like, no matter how terrible the look. The problem is Kobe.

The whole "Kobe's a ballhog" thing is just a tired debate, you're a couple of years behind on this one lol. You must have missed the part where he was urging his teammates to step up and be more aggressive. A lot of the Lakers seemed inclined to stand around and let Kobe do his thing for much of the early part of this season, they are starting to play more like a team in the last few games.

They're not "inclined to stand around and let Kobe do his thing" --- they're forced into it because Kobe won't let them touch the ball, even though the team is clearly better when they do.

E. Davis 63% > Kobe 38%
R. Sacre 54% > Kobe 38%
W. Ellington 52% > Kobe 38%
C. Boozer 49% > Kobe 38%
J. Lin 49% > Kobe 38%
J. Hill 48% > Kobe 38%
W. Johnson 39% > Kobe 38%
 
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