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Browns Stunned by Johnny Manziel

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Joe Namath is the man. Had the pleasure of playing golf with him a few times when I lived in Florida... There is not a former athlete of his stature that is more down to earth than he is.

Manziel? He's a Brown now. Destined for garbage.
 

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And if he goes out and plays well all this stupid caring about what he is doing in his free time will stop.


THIS ^^^^^^^ Over half of the Cowboys were doing blow and banging prostitutes on a daily basis during the glory years, but nobody gave a shit b/c they were winning SB's. Hell, Michael Irvin was doing blow on the sidelines off of Cowboy Cheerleaders' asses. If Johnny Cokehead goes out and leads the Browns to the playoffs, the owner of the Browns will not give two shits about his partying.

P.S. If Johnny Cokehead fails, it won't be b/c of the partying, it will be b/c the Browns just flat out suck ass....
 
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Hey he's young and full of life. He isn't the first NFL player with a partying reputation.
 

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But Johnny promised them that he would stop partying so hard.
 

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And if he goes out and plays well all this stupid caring about what he is doing in his free time will stop.

Very true.

By the same token, if he goes out there and sucks, the Johnny bashing will be 10,000 times worse than it is now.
 

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"I am shocked & appalled"

Wait, no I'm not. Who didn't see this coming? Can anyone think of a young potential franchise QB who came into the NFL acting like Johnny 8-Ball who became a successful franchise QB?
Vince Young and JaCarcuss Russell both come to mind.
 

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Joe Namath is the man. Had the pleasure of playing golf with him a few times when I lived in Florida... There is not a former athlete of his stature that is more down to earth than he is.

Manziel? He's a Brown now. Destined for garbage.
Ever heard of Bobby Orr?
 

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Why? Seems like the same story to me.

Not even close. VY is a decent guy. Dumb as fuck, but decent and he never abused drugs. He was never known as a partier.
 

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Not even close. VY is a decent guy. Dumb as fuck, but decent and he never abused drugs. He was never known as a partier.
I really wasn't aware that Jacarcass was a druggie, just knew that they both were physically gifted yet dumb a box of rocks. Neither appeared to be motivated to learn or improve their skill set and both became fabulously wealthy because they were able to abuse much smaller competition in college.
 

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I really wasn't aware that Jacarcass was a druggie, just knew that they both were physically gifted yet dumb a box of rocks. Neither appeared to be motivated to learn or improve their skill set and both became fabulously wealthy because they were able to abuse much smaller competition in college.

JaMarcus was dumb enough to fall into sizzurp addiction. VY is a basically good guy who worked hard but made some mistakes. IMO it's very unfair to compare VY to JaMarcus (other than mentally).
 

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I really wasn't aware that Jacarcass was a druggie, just knew that they both were physically gifted yet dumb a box of rocks. Neither appeared to be motivated to learn or improve their skill set and both became fabulously wealthy because they were able to abuse much smaller competition in college.


VY also abused the competition in the NFL. He went 32-19 as a starter, went to 2 pro bowls and was ROY. He even helped the Titans to the playoffs and almost helped lead them to another playoff after taking over for Kerry Collins when the Titans started out 0-6. VY's talent was never a problem; it was his immature attitude, which pretty much ended his career. Jamarcus Russell just flat out sucked and took over as the worst bust ever, replacing Ryan Leaf.
 

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JaMarcus was dumb enough to fall into sizzurp addiction. VY is a basically good guy who worked hard but made some mistakes. IMO it's very unfair to compare VY to JaMarcus (other than mentally).
On this side of the country, given that I don't follow the TMZ crap it seemed the same to me :noidea:
 

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Not even close. VY is a decent guy. Dumb as fuck, but decent and he never abused drugs. He was never known as a partier.

Absolutely. When other college football superstars with no income tool around campus in a new Escalade, VY drove around in a real POS that smoked and made noises as it rolled along.

You never heard a word about him getting into trouble, crashing parties, smoking the hooch, nothing.
 

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Absolutely. When other college football superstars with no income tool around campus in a new Escalade, VY drove around in a real POS that smoked and made noises as it rolled along.

You never heard a word about him getting into trouble, crashing parties, smoking the hooch, nothing.

Went back to UT and got his degree too, didn't he?
 

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Absolutely. When other college football superstars with no income tool around campus in a new Escalade, VY drove around in a real POS that smoked and made noises as it rolled along.

You never heard a word about him getting into trouble, crashing parties, smoking the hooch, nothing.
Vince Young has been a dud as an NFL QB.
 
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