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Cle has two picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds. If they give us a pick in the 3rd AND 4th do we do it? I say yes.
 

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Cle has two picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds. If they give us a pick in the 3rd AND 4th do we do it? I say yes.

i think the KC trade is dead in the water .
 

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I would say no. Do you really trust pop gun arm McCoy.

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I would say no. Do you really trust pop gun arm McCoy.

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Why would you not deal Cousins for a high third. After all, Griffin is our starter. If we are in any position where Cousins or McCoy have to play for an extended period of time, things are beyond screwed either way. If the Browns offer a 3rd, we deal Cousins and draft even more O-lineman with the pick.
 

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if the browns offer you a 4th I would take it and run because its an early 4th rounder you can get a quality player with that, kirk cousins hasnt done anything that you can justify that he is worth a 3rd round pick
 

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A 3rd and a 4th?? Absolutely. Get it in writing FAST before Cleveland thinks about what a stupid deal that is for them.

I would do it for only their 3rd.
 

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Why would you not deal Cousins for a high third. After all, Griffin is our starter. If we are in any position where Cousins or McCoy have to play for an extended period of time, things are beyond screwed either way. If the Browns offer a 3rd, we deal Cousins and draft even more O-lineman with the pick.

Here's why Shark. I really like Cousins, he has the tools to be an effective starter and Kyle knows this. Another reason is his development. Cousins is further along in his development. Now if Kyle want's Cousins why should we be so eager to him. Let's see how this shakes out. Now if we trade cousins we have a big problem. Who will be the backup. McCoy hell no. Should we draft a young QB. Which FA QB should we sign. Tell me your solution or plan for the issue of a backup QB.

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Here's why Shark. I really like Cousins, he has the tools to be an effective starter and Kyle knows this. Another reason is his development. Cousins is further along in his development. Now if Kyle want's Cousins why should we be so eager to him. Let's see how this shakes out. Now if we trade cousins we have a big problem. Who will be the backup. McCoy hell no. Should we draft a young QB. Which FA QB should we sign. Tell me your solution or plan for the issue of a backup QB.

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kirk has one year left which means hes a stop gap for a back up position. yes maybe a super valuable back up position. but id take the third round pick over the stop gap.
 

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Again what is your plan for a backup QB please. You draft a QB or you sign a FA QB Tell me how we can find a backup better than Cousins.
 

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Again what is your plan for a backup QB please. You draft a QB or you sign a FA QB Tell me how we can find a backup better than Cousins.
you cant... but id take a third round pick over one year of a good back up qb. a name? mccoy, hes not that good but he might have to do for next season.
 
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Take. 3rd for cousins. Thats positive net value off of a 4th rounder
 

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Again what is your plan for a backup QB please. You draft a QB or you sign a FA QB Tell me how we can find a backup better than Cousins.

Wow... I like Cousins too. Seems like a serviceable backup, a good teammate, a better person.

But it still absolutely amazes me that some of you guys think he is all that valuable. Why?? Because he has been in the NFL for a couple of years.

Why... you ask?? Because there are 2 or 3 guys you can pick late in the draft that are probably just as good or have the upside to be even better. Because if you trade him for at least a 3rd rounder you get a return, a gain on your investment. Because if you wait too much longer, some team will offer him more $$ than we are willing to spend (on a backup) in hopes that he is the next Joe Montana. In that scenario, we get nothing for the investment that we've made.

Now... What reasons to you give for us to keep Cousins???
 

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i think we keep cousins . as for mccoy i have no issue with him being our number 2 if we tradedKC but i dont see the market there yet
 

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I agree Skinsdad. There doesn't seem to be much interest. I hope we can move him before the season begins. The longer we have him on the roster the more likely we get nothing for him. And if he walks and we get nothing..it isn't the end of the world. But this notion that he is more valuable than a 3rd rounder trade bait (for another guy that could possibly be a starter) is baffling...
 

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Cle is foolish not to offer one of there 3rd round picks for Cousins. Its minimal risk versus taking a QB like Manziel or Bortels with a high 1st round pick. I got a funny feeling that none of the QB's go in the top 10 of the draft.
 

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The reason you don't accept a third for KC is success rate of 3rd round picks. A third rounder has a high probability of being a career backup or having an extremely short career. So you want to trade for a good backup QB for a career backup at another position?
 

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The reason you don't accept a third for KC is success rate of 3rd round picks. A third rounder has a high probability of being a career backup or having an extremely short career. So you want to trade for a good backup QB for a career backup at another position?
but its only one year of a good back up. i think in this draft a third round pick could be a starter.
 

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but its only one year of a good back up. i think in this draft a third round pick could be a starter.

technically it is 2 years , but i get your point

fact is we spent a 4th rounder on him . i believe we wont have any trouble getting a decent BU qb when or if he goes
 
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