Cousins played very well

[j_y19]

I think bashing either guy right now is wrong. What I want to see is both get an equal chance to succeed. I am not convinced Robert is the best QB but then too I felt that way when the trade was made. So I am somewhat biased although ultimately I want the best player for the team.

I don't think the coaches called a bad game at all. The D played great. The O played very well except for turnovers. They moved up and down the field. If they can play that way next week without the TOs it could be a great game.

I don't think there was poor clock management. They got 3 points after getting a TO with I believe less than a minute at the end of the first half and they scored a TD after moving the length of field with 3 minutes to go.

Although STs wasn't great, compared to recent weeks I felt like they were GREAT. They set the bar very low.

Remember back in the 90s when we let Trent Green go after one year? Turned out to be a big mistake. I really want to see Robert get an off season where he isn't rehabbing to rush back. Then I want to see him and Cousins battle it out and the best QB gets the starting position.

I agree. Just don't think it will happen.

 

[deanpet21]

Yes if Shanny stays I would like to see KC in camp.

 

[antrodemus]

Its not all on RG3 but he is a big part of it. If you cant see that the offense played very well today then you are wet like sportster said. The offense sustained drives. We only took one sack. We looked like a team today b/c we had a better QB in there.

Against the sorry Falcons. Do you honestly think Kirk would have stayed upright against the 49ers? Let's keep things in perspective, the Redskins played a bad team today.

 

[skinsdad62]

Its not all on RG3 but he is a big part of it. If you cant see that the offense played very well today then you are wet like sportster said. The offense sustained drives. We only took one sack. We looked like a team today b/c we had a better QB in there.

he isnt a big part of it either

we sustained drives with RG3 but the same old story rose up

and yes sportser there was poor clock management . we had a chance to take a shot to the endzone near the end of the half but the skins were slow to get a TO

we had a delay of game penalty as well in scoring position

the offense , as a whole had 6 To's , it didnt play well as a unit

 

[Sharkinva]

Against the sorry Falcons. Do you honestly think Kirk would have stayed upright against the 49ers? Let's keep things in perspective, the Redskins played a bad team today.

If we are going to grab the angle that the Falcons are a bad defense, the only good defenses we have played against all season are the 49ers and maybe NY. Most of the defenses we have played against are in the bottom half of the league in defense.

 

[skinsdad62]

If we are going to grab the angle that the Falcons are a bad defense, the only good defenses we have played against all season are the 49ers and maybe NY. Most of the defenses we have played against are in the bottom half of the league in defense.

KC did a very good job and showed some very good things and showed where he is ahead of Rg3 on the mental side of the game

but he had 3 TO's that led to 17 points that is a fact

but that isnt why we lost we lost because of the same things we have had all year long . MISTAKES

poor tackling , poor special teams TO's penalties lousey coaching choices , no adjustments no real difference and we wasted a nice game by KC

 

[Shenanihanigans]

Fellas, give it a rest.

Both deanpet and skinsdad have good points and need to calm down on several fronts.

skinsdad - KC played the best game of either qb, all season long today. yes, he threw 2 bad int's. But he also threw passes to 8 wr's, hit is 3rd or 4th option with ease, looked dominant at times, and played behind the same crappy oline that RG3 played behind.

There is no denying that he played well. The fumble isn't on him either. It's on Turnstile Polumbus.
Nobody is "doing the same to RG3." RG3 needs to learn how to read defenses like KC already knows how to. RG3 needs to learn how to hit is second, third, and fourth options, like KC JUST showed he knew how to do. RG3 needs to stop being a diva, and get to work.

deanpet - ONE game against ONE terrible defense doesn't mean shit. KC looked good. So what? No really.... SO. WHAT? You have some good points, but you lose everybody with your hysterics. The team sucks moose dong this year. Ok. Move on.

 

[sublime4eva]

He had two bonehead ints but the 2 fumbles in the red zone killed him(Moss and Morris). 381 yards 3tds and 2 iNTs. He is just a better QB in this offense. No doubt in my mind that it would have been a different season with him at QB. We should of won this game. I like his pocket presences and composure.

lol..dude you're fricking high!

 

[sublime4eva]

This deanpet guy is laughable, I wasn't gonna post for awhile but I can't stand by and read his ridiculous posts no more without commenting.
Dude you're nuts, absolutely clueless if you think Cousins is better than Griffin, Cousins is a good QB but if Griffin had the game Cousins did today you'd be persecuting him cause you're a hater that can't see past Griffin's MISTAKES . IT'S ALL HIS FAULT LOL.
if you didn't see the real issues on this team today:Bad defense, Special teams, dumb play calling and a suspect Offensive line then you never will, we played an awful team today and lost, we play the worst defense in THE NFL next week and then NY and will probably lose those too. Because this TEAM for the last two seasons hasn't been able to improve on there weaknesses due to not really being able to go into FA and aquire players because of the cap hit and losing those draft picks.
But keep blaming Griffin for all these issues and you, this city and this fanbase are gonna run the best QB this place has seen in the last decade out of here and regret it.

 

[Sportster 72]

This deanpet guy is laughable, I wasn't gonna post for awhile but I can't stand by and read his ridiculous posts no more without commenting.
Dude you're nuts, absolutely clueless if you think Cousins is better than Griffin, Cousins is a good QB but if Griffin had the game Cousins did today you'd be persecuting him cause you're a hater that can't see past Griffin's MISTAKES . IT'S ALL HIS FAULT LOL.
if you didn't see the real issues on this team today:Bad defense, Special teams, dumb play calling and a suspect Offensive line then you never will, we played an awful team today and lost, we play the worst defense in THE NFL next week and then NY and will probably lose those too. Because this TEAM for the last two seasons hasn't been able to improve on there weaknesses due to not really being able to go into FA and aquire players because of the cap hit and losing those draft picks.
But keep blaming Griffin for all these issues and you, this city and this fanbase are gonna run the best QB this place has seen in the last decade out of here and regret it.

Go read John Keim's article, he doesn't feel the same way you do.

Too early to tell which is better right now. Actually I thought Griffin was getting a pass on most games.

The defense was very good today, not sure what game you were watching.
STs wasn't good but they didn't kill the team today.
Oline gave up one sack yesterday, in large part because Cousins got the ball out quickly or knew how to move in the pocket to help avoid a sack.
True, that the Skins lost. They opted to go for the win instead of the tie and OT. At 3-10 I don't think it was a bad call.
Three fumbles inside the red zone. People say "hey he lost but he had them in position."
Cousins did have two bad turnovers, he fully acknowledged that. It was his 2nd ever start in the NFL not his 30 something start.

If you can't seen that he did a lot of things Robert can't do right now then you missed noticing the nuances of the position. It is one game and surely not enough to crown him king or call him a bust. Some of you keep claiming it was against a bad defense, he moved the ball well. Had the team in position to tie despite 7 turnovers. Normally you are blown out if you turn the ball over 7 times. I don't recall that all of Griffin's games were against the Monsters of the Midway.

People are giving dean a hard time for saying the Skins would be playoff bound with Cousin's. I don't know that he could have overcome the D and ST's. To say didn't play well is just plain wrong.

I think dad said it best, I don't want to bash either guy. Lets see what he does with these last two games and if he plays well I want to see open competition for the position next year and not just anoint Griffin because of the draft picks given up for him.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

skinsdad please. If this game meant anything we would of kicked the XP and forced overtime. So who knows what would happened we could of won the game. Our ST played well today. Moss was horrible today. Two inexcusable fumbles that cost us 10 points. Its funny that the offensive line was not a problem today. Why is that? lol


It was KC first start of the season and he played great. Morris and Moss let him down. He could of had 5 Td passes today. That's right skinsdad five!! Why cant you and jy19 just admit that you were wrong this season.

Jeez - have you ever played team sports in your life? Everything with you is about blaming certain individuals. The fact is that they win & lose as a team. Also - get real - part of the reason that certain units (O-line) did well was because they were playing a bad, inexperienced unit. As I have posted elsewhere - I am taking absolutely nothing away from Cousins - he played very well. However - again - this is a late season game against another bad team (the Giants game will be worse in this respect) so stop reading so much into the game.

Also - unless you are Marty McFly - you can't go back in time & play the "woulda, shoulda" game. Stop living in the past & concentrate on the present & future. I knew that you main objective was saying "I told you so" & you continue to prove it.

All the best to Cousins & the Redskins. HTTR

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Kudos to Cousins. However - IMO - all this is does is simply point out the real problem - Mike Shanahan. He was the one who hired & retained the horrible defensive & ST coaches. In regards to the QB position - if indeed RG3 was the problem then Shanahan should have benched him earlier.

Why wait until now? Supposedly - he had this "ironclad" contract which gave him full control. That should have allowed him to make the move. Was he perhaps too scared? Please -grow a pair. Time for an overhaul in the coaching area. If needed - they can also get rid of certain players who some of you believe to be the problem.

HTTR

 

[sublime4eva]

Go read John Keim's article, he doesn't feel the same way you do.

Too early to tell which is better right now. Actually I thought Griffin was getting a pass on most games.

The defense was very good today, not sure what game you were watching.
STs wasn't good but they didn't kill the team today.
Oline gave up one sack yesterday, in large part because Cousins got the ball out quickly or knew how to move in the pocket to help avoid a sack.
True, that the Skins lost. They opted to go for the win instead of the tie and OT. At 3-10 I don't think it was a bad call.
Three fumbles inside the red zone. People say "hey he lost but he had them in position."
Cousins did have two bad turnovers, he fully acknowledged that. It was his 2nd ever start in the NFL not his 30 something start.

If you can't seen that he did a lot of things Robert can't do right now then you missed noticing the nuances of the position. It is one game and surely not enough to crown him king or call him a bust. Some of you keep claiming it was against a bad defense, he moved the ball well. Had the team in position to tie despite 7 turnovers. Normally you are blown out if you turn the ball over 7 times. I don't recall that all of Griffin's games were against the Monsters of the Midway.

People are giving dean a hard time for saying the Skins would be playoff bound with Cousin's. I don't know that he could have overcome the D and ST's. To say didn't play well is just plain wrong.

I think dad said it best, I don't want to bash either guy. Lets see what he does with these last two games and if he plays well I want to see open competition for the position next year and not just anoint Griffin because of the draft picks given up for him.

Your whole post sounds like you're making excuses as to why we lost, we've been like this all year, I like Cousins don't get me wrong but to say he's better based on one game is crazy, if he plays last week against the Chiefs he probably gets destroyed and he plays the awful Falcons who are playing all rookies in the secondary yesterday and then the Cowboys who have the worst defense in the NFL and Giants who look awful and we're going to judge him based on these games and anoint him better? Not me.

 

[Sharkinva]

Your whole post sounds like you're making excuses as to why we lost, we've been like this all year, I like Cousins don't get me wrong but to say he's better based on one game is crazy, if he plays last week against the Chiefs he probably gets destroyed and he plays the awful Falcons who are playing all rookies in the secondary yesterday and then the Cowboys who have the worst defense in the NFL and Giants who look awful and we're going to judge him based on these games and anoint him better? Not me.

You can only judge Cousins based on his play. Is Griffin a better athelete?? Sure he is. Better QB?? Its certainly debatable.

 

[j_y19]

Guys, let's not get carried away on cousins performance. First, it was one game against a very poor defense. Second, it was good, it wasn't great. He made some mistakes. The same mistakes he has made before. If he plays good the next 2 games and he starts to minimize his mistakes, then we can start to dream a bit.

 

[skinsdad62]

Kc will struggle in the future . not because he is bad but because he is young that will happen and we will experience growing pains with him

then we will see about who sticks with him then ? eh

 

[j_y19]

Of course he will. And you are right. Those that are clamoring for Cousins over RG3 today will be throwing him under the bus as soon as he displays the same patterns of all young QBs.......inconsistencies and regression before success.

Everyone want us to draft the next Joe Montana yet they don't take the time to look a Joe's performance for his first few years in the league........not so good.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Of course he will. And you are right. Those that are clamoring for Cousins over RG3 today will be throwing him under the bus as soon as he displays the same patterns of all young QBs.......inconsistencies and regression before success.

Everyone want us to draft the next Joe Montana yet they don't take the time to look a Joe's performance for his first few years in the league........not so good.

You don't have to go too far back to prove this pt. With very few exceptions - almost nobody had a bad word to say about RG3 last season. Now (somewhat justified) a lot of people are ready to discard the guy. This is due to many factors but proves that you cannot judge any QB based on a small body of work. I could just as easily see folks turning on Cousins if let's say he does well but then has some bad games in the future (in his case would probably involve a lot of turnovers).

As always the truth lies in the middle & I wish the best for both of them (since they play for the Skins). Let's just sit back & watch & stop trying to jump to so many conclusions.

 

[Sharkinva]

You don't have to go too far back to prove this pt. With very few exceptions - almost nobody had a bad word to say about RG3 last season. Now (somewhat justified) a lot of people are ready to discard the guy. This is due to many factors but proves that you cannot judge any QB based on a small body of work. I could just as easily see folks turning on Cousins if let's say he does well but then has some bad games in the future (in his case would probably involve a lot of turnovers).

As always the truth lies in the middle & I wish the best for both of them (since they play for the Skins). Let's just sit back & watch & stop trying to jump to so many conclusions.

I wont speak for any one else. But I have been put off by his attitude. When a QB starts off blaming coaches, WR's and his line for his own bad play, it leaves a bad taste. In hind site, it looks more and more like his push to get back onto the field was insecurity more than some desire to help the team. To me, those are huge red flags. And it just seems he was doing more to wreck the relationship between him and the coaches, than he was to fix it. So yea, when a guy comes off with an its all about me and my needs attitude, I do tend to start to wonder if he is really worth it. I do agree he has gotten caught up in his own swagger to a degree and it has done just as much to hurt the team over all. Cousins might not be the athlete Griffin is, but he is clearly a better pocket passer at the moment. And he does seem to be more team and less me focused than Griffin.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Good Audition

I watched the game and listened to the Falcon radio play by play...crazy way to watch a game because the radio TV delay is far behind the radio but that's another topic.

Dave Archer the Falcon analyst is a former NFL QB, and usually calls it like he sees it...there were some bad throws that Cousin's made and he pointed those out, but he was impressed with his reads....rarely threw to the wrong guy.

I still think CLE is the team to watch here. They have 2 picks in the 1st round so they don't have to go QB with the 1st...they could take Clowney or OT/WR...and trade that 2nd first rounder for Cousins. At this point I would take Cousins over the 4th QB off the board for certain and maybe over the 3rd QB off the board.