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Roy Halladay Retires

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Congrats on an unbelievable career Doc!!! You were the best!
 
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Let the HOF debate begin. I'd vote for him
 

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Well see ya later, Doc. Injuries ruined his career, but a solid career.
 

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Well see ya later, Doc. Injuries ruined his career, but a solid career.

Way more than a solid career - he was the best pitcher in his era, quite frankly - the innings he threw, the dominance he had, in a tough AL East for so many years, and then what he did in his first two seasons with the Phillies, without a doubt it was an unbelievably amazing career
 

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Let the HOF debate begin. I'd vote for him

I knew this would be brought up. I just didn't think so fast. And, no. No Roy for the hall. Unless we are talking about the very overcrowded Hall of the Very Good.
 

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I think he's a pretty easy HOF pick, esp for his era. One thing that bugs me about HOF voting is that people look at career numbers (whatever number floats your boat) and not at individual seasons. Doc had a lot of great seasons in his shortish (only 13 seasons w/100 ip pitched) career. So if you're against "compiler" candidates, Doc should be a guy you want.
 

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He earned the $ 35.750 mil the Phillies gave him for 2010 and 2011. He stole most of the $ 40.00 mil they gave him in 2012-2013.
 

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Halladay's got what, half a dozen seasons better than Morris' best season?

I'd say 5. Morris' 1983 was pretty dang good - led pitchers in fWAR, threw 293 innings. It was a legit HOF season.
 

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I think he's a pretty easy HOF pick, esp for his era. One thing that bugs me about HOF voting is that people look at career numbers (whatever number floats your boat) and not at individual seasons. Doc had a lot of great seasons in his shortish (only 13 seasons w/100 ip pitched) career. So if you're against "compiler" candidates, Doc should be a guy you want.

Sandy Koufax wonders if you remember him?
 

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I knew this would be brought up. I just didn't think so fast. And, no. No Roy for the hall. Unless we are talking about the very overcrowded Hall of the Very Good.

lol
 

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Not before Jack Morris.
Halladay led the league in WAR for pitchers 4 times and was top 5 eight times. Morris never led the league and was top 5 twice.

Halladay was top 5 in ERA 7 times. Morris was top 5 in ERA twice.

Halladay was top 5 in WHIP 6 times. Morris was top 5 in WHIP twice.

Halladay led the league in IP twice, top 5 eight times. Morris led the league in IP once, top 5 seven times.

Halladay was top 5 in strikeouts 5 times. Morris was top 5 in strikeouts 4 times.

Halladay led the league in K/BB 5 times. Morris was top 5 once.

Halladay was top 5 in ERA+ seven times, led the league once. Morris was top 5 in ERA+ once.

Comparing Halladay to Morris is idiotic. Morris shouldn't be in, Halladay should.
 

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I knew this would be brought up. I just didn't think so fast. And, no. No Roy for the hall. Unless we are talking about the very overcrowded Hall of the Very Good.
Hall of Very Good? He was the best pitcher in baseball for ten seasons.
 

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He is a borderline HOF... He had an amazing 4 season stretch from 2008-2011. and he had 6 HOF seasons, with a couple very good seasons sprinkled in...
He did not play long enough to compile any HOF milestones...

If i had to put money in him making it or not, i would probably bet that he will make it...
 

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Way more than a solid career - he was the best pitcher in his era, quite frankly - the innings he threw, the dominance he had, in a tough AL East for so many years, and then what he did in his first two seasons with the Phillies, without a doubt it was an unbelievably amazing career

Come on Marcus, stop being a homer ;) lol just kidding buddy. He was a great pitcher in this era.
 

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He is a borderline HOF... He had an amazing 4 season stretch from 2008-2011. and he had 6 HOF seasons, with a couple very good seasons sprinkled in...
He did not play long enough to compile any HOF milestones...

If i had to put money in him making it or not, i would probably bet that he will make it...


Obviously nitpicking here, but I'd say he had 7 HOF type seasons:

2002
2003
2006
2008
2009
2010
2011
 

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Obviously nitpicking here, but I'd say he had 7 HOF type seasons:

2002
2003
2006
2008
2009
2010
2011


I should have been more clear on what my definition of a HOF season... I counted 6 HOF seasons- 2006 was not one for me...

A HOF season in my book is if you start 30+ games, 200+ innings and have 1 of these 3 things:
1. 20 or more wins
2. below 3.00 ERA
3. Below 1.09 WHIP
 
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