Rangers/M's

[jta4437]

I had a feeling it was you. Always a few paragraphs of well thought out analysis.

Good to see you again too.

I've had my run-ins with people on here too.

I guess it's the nature of the internet.

But, I think we have a right to criticize the team. It's not like we're bandwagon fans. I know you, JTA, myself and others have been sticking around since before the team ever got back to the post season. I think it's fair game.

Anyways, I hope they don't stay cold too long.

Summer is approaching. If we have to slump, do it during the 110 degree heat.

I worry about Harrison and Feldman with all these free passes now, because it's not gonna be any easier when the sweat is rolling down their face faster.

I actually understand why Ron Washington protects his players. But he was wrong when he said Feldman only made one bad pitch. I think he made 20 bad pitches. The 5 walks, not the home run ball was what irked me.

In fact the HR ball was not a bad pitch, he actually buried it on the inside part of the plate, it was just really good hitting in that instance

I give Feldman some latitude, he was in his 1st start where he was actually expected to go a long ways, he's been used so sporadically that he can't be expected to just jump in and be good or much above mediocre

If he's still terrible after a couple more starts, its time to worry, as of yet, cut the guy a little slack

If Oswalt is signed and walks 5 in a game within his first 3 starts, I would hope the backlash would be the same, but for some reason I believe that he will be given far more leeway than Feldman

 

[WilltheThrill]

In fact the HR ball was not a bad pitch, he actually buried it on the inside part of the plate, it was just really good hitting in that instance

I give Feldman some latitude, he was in his 1st start where he was actually expected to go a long ways, he's been used so sporadically that he can't be expected to just jump in and be good or much above mediocre

If he's still terrible after a couple more starts, its time to worry, as of yet, cut the guy a little slack

If Oswalt is signed and walks 5 in a game within his first 3 starts, I would hope the backlash would be the same, but for some reason I believe that he will be given far more leeway than Feldman

I think you're right about the backlash and, right or wrong, I think it's because Oswalt has a lengthy track record as one of the game's better pitchers whereas Feldman has spent the majority of his time scuffling as a back of the rotation caliber starter or long reliever. I'm really pulling for Feldman to win the spot outright so the Rangers don't have to spend a chunk of change on Oswalt. I just think even with the time needed to get him ready, Oswalt will end up being the better option.

When I look out over the American League landscape I see 13 teams with definite flaws and one, our Rangers, with only one potential flaw- an inconsistent rotation. At times they look downright dominant and scary... other times not so much. The AL is definitely ours for the taking as long as the rotation holds up. There's not 1 other team that can compete with the Rangers as long as the starters can consistently give the team 6 quality innings. Oswalt might have to figure into that equation if more injuries or inconsistencies flare up.

 

[scotsman1948]

Scotsman's a great poster, but has invited some of the criticism he had received in the past. Doesn't mean we don't want him around though.

thanks for those kind words romeo. yes i've probably deserved some criticism i've received and with the exception of a few i respect the opinions of the other posters on this board

 

[scotsman1948]

I think you're right about the backlash and, right or wrong, I think it's because Oswalt has a lengthy track record as one of the game's better pitchers whereas Feldman has spent the majority of his time scuffling as a back of the rotation caliber starter or long reliever. I'm really pulling for Feldman to win the spot outright so the Rangers don't have to spend a chunk of change on Oswalt. I just think even with the time needed to get him ready, Oswalt will end up being the better option.

When I look out over the American League landscape I see 13 teams with definite flaws and one, our Rangers, with only one potential flaw- an inconsistent rotation. At times they look downright dominant and scary... other times not so much. The AL is definitely ours for the taking as long as the rotation holds up. There's not 1 other team that can compete with the Rangers as long as the starters can consistently give the team 6 quality innings. Oswalt might have to figure into that equation if more injuries or inconsistencies flare up.

i have nothing against Feldman as a long-reliever and spot starter but given a choice of him or Oswalt i have to take Oswalt

 

[Windingmywatch]

i have nothing against Feldman as a long-reliever and spot starter but given a choice of him or Oswalt i have to take Oswalt

mark

 

[guitarmy21b]

mark

Yup yup rep

 

[fordman84]

i have nothing against Feldman as a long-reliever and spot starter but given a choice of him or Oswalt i have to take Oswalt

Logged in to say just this. Feldman is good for 2-3 innings. Anything more than that, and you are asking for trouble. I don't care about his line tonight or what Tag or Mac said, Feldman sucked in the 4th and 5th innings.


When it only costs money and not players, I'm all for seeing what Roy can give us. Had we given up picks or players the story would be different. As is, I'll take the chances with his back. Besides, if his contract really is like rumored where he is paid a prorated amount based on time with team then there is very little risk. If he sucks, cut him or send back to minors. Then you don't pay the contract.

 

[1502tuley]

Logged in to say just this. Feldman is good for 2-3 innings. Anything more than that, and you are asking for trouble. I don't care about his line tonight or what Tag or Mac said, Feldman sucked in the 4th and 5th innings.


When it only costs money and not players, I'm all for seeing what Roy can give us. Had we given up picks or players the story would be different. As is, I'll take the chances with his back. Besides, if his contract really is like rumored where he is paid a prorated amount based on time with team then there is very little risk. If he sucks, cut him or send back to minors. Then you don't pay the contract.

I sometimes wonder if Wash is the ultimate homer. He seems to think his pitchers can go much further than they really can. It's almost like he has too much faith in his starters, like he's a huge fan.

 

[jta4437]

Logged in to say just this. Feldman is good for 2-3 innings. Anything more than that, and you are asking for trouble. I don't care about his line tonight or what Tag or Mac said, Feldman sucked in the 4th and 5th innings.


When it only costs money and not players, I'm all for seeing what Roy can give us. Had we given up picks or players the story would be different. As is, I'll take the chances with his back. Besides, if his contract really is like rumored where he is paid a prorated amount based on time with team then there is very little risk. If he sucks, cut him or send back to minors. Then you don't pay the contract.

Feldman is always going to give up some hits, and he needs his defense to make plays behind him, Beltre screwed the pooch on that, should have held onto that one

 

[jta4437]

I sometimes wonder if Wash is the ultimate homer. He seems to think his pitchers can go much further than they really can. It's almost like he has too much faith in his starters, like he's a huge fan.

Feldman made his pitch, Beltre let him down there

 

[1502tuley]

Feldman made his pitch, Beltre let him down there

Feldman certainly made that pitch, but he also gave too many free passes today as well. Just like his last outing where he gave up 5 runs on 3 hits. That just can't happen.

If I'm not mistaken, he's likely to be 0 and 4 after tonight, with an ERA over 5.

 

[1502tuley]

Hambone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jta4437]

Feldman certainly made that pitch, but he also gave too many free passes today as well. Just like his last outing where he gave up 5 runs on 3 hits. That just can't happen.

If I'm not mistaken, he's likely to be 0 and 4 after tonight, with an ERA over 5.

his ERA actually went down, down to 4.50, the last 2 were unearned b/c of Beltre

 

[1502tuley]

his ERA actually went down, down to 4.50, the last 2 were unearned b/c of Beltre

Wow, I guess I was wrong, 0 and 3 or 0 and 4, and an ERA of 4.5 is so awsome. How did I ever doubt him? Screw Oswalt. Send him back home, we don't need him.

 

[Lukawren24]

Feldman made his pitch, Beltre let him down there

That makes 2 critical errors by Beltre in feldmans last two starts if I'm not mistaken

 

[1502tuley]

That makes 2 critical errors by Beltre in feldmans last two starts if I'm not mistaken

Yep, it's very un-beltre like

 

[jta4437]

Wow, I guess I was wrong, 0 and 3 or 0 and 4, and an ERA of 4.5 is so awsome. How did I ever doubt him? Screw Oswalt. Send him back home, we don't need him.

Well stop making up numbers and no one will have to call you out

 

[1502tuley]

Well stop making up numbers and no one will have to call you out

So is your argument that Feldman has done well thus far this year? because my argument is that he has sucked If you are arguing that he is good, then i understand your responses. If that's not your argument, then your just wanting to argue.

 

[jta4437]

So is your argument that Feldman has done well thus far this year? because my argument is that he has sucked If you are arguing that he is good, then i understand your responses. If that's not your argument, then your just wanting to argue.

Feldman has been very mediocre, I don't deny that but thats to be expected to someone transitioning back to starting after barely pitching in the first quarter of the season, But don't try to make him out worse than he's been,

you argue he's sucked, but you seem to think that I think he's been good, is there not a middle ground?? don't be so all or nothing, it makes you seem ignorant

Oswalt is signed now, so the point is moot, Feldman will be out in about 3 weeks

 

[fordman84]

Feldman is always going to give up some hits, and he needs his defense to make plays behind him, Beltre screwed the pooch on that, should have held onto that one

It wasn't the hits that annoyed me. It was the 3 ball counts and the walks. Once he got to the 4th he stopped being able to get the first pitch across. Not sure if he is trying to switch it up for the second time through the lineup or what. Or he is just getting tired.

I can handle the hits. The walks and the pitching from behind for every hitter that gets to me. Towards the end he just couldn't get one through the zone.