Do we have a CBA strife thread yet?

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was this posted?

S-tits thinks Columbus is gloomy

Guy Who Is Currently Playing Hockey In Siberia Calls Columbus "The Gloomiest" City

Yeah, I'll called him a tit above...

 

[puckhead]

Volchenkov fractured his ankle while playing for Torpedo in KHL and will miss four to six weeks.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

Volchenkov fractured his ankle while playing for Torpedo in KHL and will miss four to six weeks.

That's what happens when you play his style of D. Hit everything in sight and dive in front of every single shot.

 

[puckhead]

from today's Cheap Throat
Cheap Throat: The Diary of a Locked-Out NHLer, Day 35 | The Barnstormer
(I am less convinced that it is a real NHLer, btw)


I love the boys, and we’re known for taking care of our own. But the Fehrs come from MLB. They’re fucking outsiders. They’re in a dick measuring contest with Weasel Penis (Bettman) and Bald-Face Liar (Daly). Don’t think they give much a fuck about the players.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

from today's Cheap Throat
Cheap Throat: The Diary of a Locked-Out NHLer, Day 35 | The Barnstormer
(I am less convinced that it is a real NHLer, btw)


I love the boys, and we’re known for taking care of our own. But the Fehrs come from MLB. They’re fucking outsiders. They’re in a dick measuring contest with Weasel Penis (Bettman) and Bald-Face Liar (Daly). Don’t think they give much a fuck about the players.

I think it's safe to say we knew this would happen once Fehr was hired by the NHLPA. It took MLB a long time to recover. Heck, some might say they haven't recovered yet.

 

[thedddd]

Just stay in the KHL, you tit...

Nashville?s Kostitsyn hopes lockout wipes out NHL season - The Globe and Mail

I don't blame him but the only silver lining to see to a long lockout if it means players like him and his brother never come back I will be happy.

 

[thedddd]

I think it's safe to say we knew this would happen once Fehr was hired by the NHLPA. It took MLB a long time to recover. Heck, some might say they haven't recovered yet.

I totally agree and just think the only recovery might be if the teams/games aren't in New York or Boston then no one will care.....eh wait...that is what MLB/ESPN force on us.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I totally agree and just think the only recovery might be if the teams/games aren't in New York or Boston then no one will care.....eh wait...that is what MLB/ESPN force on us.

Once the Yankees got knocked out baseball basically died on Disney. If it's not the Yankees, Mets, Red Sox or Cubs you don't matter.

 

[higgyfan4]

I'm sure this has probably been posted already, but it's the first time I'm seeing it...

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/clock/

 

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I guess it helps you gain some perspective when you can see both sides, eh Jammy?

NHL owners are not “cheaters,” Jaromir Jagr says. | Edmonton Journal

 

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Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris

NHL talks still on hold. Bill Daly says he's "not sure there is any reason to meet if there is nothing new to say."

 

[TiLoBrown]

That's what happens when you play his style of D. Hit everything in sight and dive in front of every single shot.

Thats why I love him

 

[Eddie_Shack]

You wonder if we would be in the current situation if the league would have accepted a $45 million hard cap that would have remained in place for the entire length of the CBA that was proposed by the players back in 2005.

I really want to be pissed at the players, the NHLPA, and Fehr especially... but the owners just make it so damn hard.

 

[Dacks]

I don't blame Ovechkin or Kostitsyn... if I signed a contract for x million dollars a year and then a few years later the other contract-signer basically told me to rip that up and take a percentage (under threat of not paying me at all) I'd make some threats too. It'd be one thing if the league was under financial duress and risk of shutting down, but it's not. It's making record revenues.

You sign a ten-year contract at a discount because it offers you a certain security, and then you're asked to take a further discount just because the other guy wants a bigger cut? Fuck off.

I understand that's part of CBA agreements, but it's still shitty. The NHLPA has agreed to a lot of concessions, provided the owners honour the dollar value of current contracts. That's as reasonable as you can fucking get. The owners are trying to crush the union, Bettman wants to prove he can get the better of Fehr, and it will cost us a season. I'd rather the players stay strong then pussy-out and accept some of these demands, I wouldn't respect them.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I really want to be pissed at the players, the NHLPA, and Fehr especially... but the owners just make it so damn hard.

It's all about greed. I wonder if the other league owners look at the NFL & say I'm involved in the wrong sport.

It's too bad the NFL players didn't get Fehr to represent them. Goodell & the NFL owners wouldn't know what hit them.

 

[mattola]

Dirty Pool by NHL. trying to get players to sway by talking to the owners directly... it shouldnt be a bother by the fact the union is so "solid" but not telling the NHLPA they are reaching out in that manner is not really good.

OWNERS, GMS TALK TO PLAYERS WITHOUT TELLING NHLPA
TheFourthPeriod.com
The NHL gave permission to its owners and managerial staff, including team GMs, last week to speak with players about the ongoing CBA negotiations.
TFP has learned that the owners and staff were granted 48-hour window

According to RDS's Renaud Lavoie, who broke the news via Twitter, the NHL did not notify the NHL Players' Association of its intentions, causing a stir among the NHLPA.
"Most owners are not allowed to attend bargaining meetings," NHLPA Special Counsel Steve Fehr told TFP via email. "No owners are allowed to speak to the media about the bargaining. It is interesting that they are secretly unleashed to talk to the players about the meetings the players can attend, but the owners cannot."

During the NHL lockout, members of NHL teams are not allowed to speak with any player or discuss the lockout or negotiations publicly, without NHL approval.

More to follow.

 

[awaz]

Dirty Pool by NHL. trying to get players to sway by talking to the owners directly... it shouldnt be a bother by the fact the union is so "solid" but not telling the NHLPA they are reaching out in that manner is not really good.

the fact that tehy aren't allowed to talk to each other directly in the first place bothers me.. its an agreement between the players and the owners, yet they funnel all the discussion through dingbat 1 and dingbat 2

 

[mattola]

the fact that tehy aren't allowed to talk to each other directly in the first place bothers me.. its an agreement between the players and the owners, yet they funnel all the discussion through dingbat 1 and dingbat 2

its dirty pool either way. the perception just looks so bad. whomever they hired for PR really needs to be fired. if they even care that much

 

[davnlaguna]

its dirty pool either way. the perception just looks so bad. whomever they hired for PR really needs to be fired. if they even care that much

The NHL gave the GMs the right to answer question about the contract offered but not lobby for it. This leads me to think that there is a split in the players. Mostly about the "make them whole" part. Players want their "individual" money and if that means down the road another player takes a little less, fine. Fehr is trying to keep the money available for players not yet in the NHL or for star players. I think this may drive a wedge between Fehr and the rank and file guys

 

[mattola]

The NHL gave the GMs the right to answer question about the contract offered but not lobby for it. This leads me to think that there is a split in the players. Mostly about the "make them whole" part. Players want their "individual" money and if that means down the road another player takes a little less, fine. Fehr is trying to keep the money available for players not yet in the NHL or for star players. I think this may drive a wedge between Fehr and the rank and file guys

yeah this is where they would lose. If this is the way the majority feel its over. but if its only the rich ones then I cant see that making the difference. if 80% of the 700+ players want the future it will continue. but if like teh NHL the big players are the ones making the decisions its pretty much done if thats the way its going to go. THAT being said I still cant see them (any of them) giving up already signed contracts)